djseven

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While I'll admit I didn't always agree with Gordon's and Fritz's assessment of how the values on these cars would increase, it appears it has definitely seen a recent substantial spike in value.

It is clear it is happening with numerous sports cars right now but the FD is definitely in that group. While the MK4 supra and Air Cooled Porsches are reaching comical levels the FD is still in that attainable price range for now.

The saving grace for those who want a FD but don't currently have the money, there are still quite a few rough condition FDs out there that can be had around the $10-12k range. However, the nicer higher mileage FDs are selling around the $18-20k price point and the low mileage cars are actually moving in the high $20k range.

I owned 5 FDs at the time when the market crashed nearly a decade ago and unfortunately only own 1 at this time. While it sucks you can't find FDs priced as low as we did during the recession, it is a good sign for those who have low mileage clean FDs or those who have nice built FDs.

I'm curious to see where the prices will settle but they have been steadily rising for the last 12-18 months. Cheers to those who already have their hands on one or multiple.

ptrhahn

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Really wish I had the space for two.

RX7 RAGE

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NSX and Supra prices are through the roof right now.

ArmAnirx7

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I agree with the value increase as well. I currently have a 93 MB 110k miles with approx. 50k on the rebuilt motor, paint is in good shape, interior is also in really good shape. Lots of mods. I have priced at at 15,500. I have 2 fds and I cant handle the cost of both so I am selling this one. After doing research, I feel that I have priced this around what the market is for a fast sale. Here is my listing. 1993 Mazda Rx7 Touring Model An opinions on my listing price would be appreciated since I am also trying to size up the FD market too?

Edit: Would it be smarter for me to hang on to it for another year??

djseven

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I think you have it priced correctly assuming paint and engine are in good shape. I can't see any FD with over 100k miles drastically increasing in value over a short time frame. Your car would have been a $12-13K car just a couple years ago. Now at $15k it is a good buy for someone assuming it is in good running condition.

ArmAnirx7

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It took a bit of market research to come up with the price. Of course I priced it with some minor room to negotiate so I feel good about the listing. Thanks for your feedback.

LO7

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Woo-HOO! Keep it rising! The RX-7 deserves to be priced up there with the MKIV Supra for sure, if not even more sought after because of it's even more timeless design.

Snook

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While I'd like to agree with you I can't.
Toyota has a better reputation for building quality than Mazda. The supra can handle 700hp the RX7 half. Just because the rotary is unique doesn't make it better. Most people are afraid and won't touch it so that caps prices and so does unreliability and cost to repair and difficulty in sourcing parts. Of course the fd will increase in price as the supply decreases since they don't make them any more. This would be true for pennies as well.

While you and I love FDs more than anything, it takes the mass population feeling that way to have a car that appreciates the way air cooled Porsches and supras have. Glad fds are going up they are a very special car and great examples will continue to go up even more so as the high mileage ones of today will be toast in another 15 years.

Tem120

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when I purchased my shell.... there were a few FD's running around for 6-8k in rougher shape.. now cant find anything anywhere near that price..

RedBaronII

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And I agree with you 100%.
I love mine, but the fact that you can't find some original cosmetic/plastic/mechanical/electrical parts in stock is a deterrent for any true car collector from the restoring point of view.
You have to go hunting/begging/praying/modifying them, which will determine the collecting value.
When an FD makes it in a Barret Jackson auction or inside a meaningful car museum, I'll believe in price going up and is a collectors car.
Beside, the cost of owning/repairing/fixing/maintaining these cars wipes out any present little perceived appreciation in the market value 10:1. LOL

matty

they are definitely up in price from 5 years ago. that much is a given.

now whether they are up as much a s supra I dont know and i dont care. while it feels cool to have a car go up in value who really cares. to me a car is meant to be used and enjoyed. its not an investment. I think the majority of us here are enthusiasts not investors.

Fritz Flynn

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12 to 13k short sale

15k plus long sale. If you don't need to unload it you will get 15k easily in 2 years.

In 5 more years any decent running FD will be 17k plus but we haven't quite reached that point. There are still too many available.

Fritz Flynn

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Here's another thread discussing value and collector status etc...: https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...ed-fd-1070128/

Yes it is happening

Fritz Flynn

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Try finding original parts for just about any collector car. The FD actually has a leg up because so many were produced in japan from 96 to 2002.

Yep if you want to invest in something buy a pristine 996 GT3. They are getting extremely expensive in Europe and likely the next 911 to go crazy in value.

Being unique is a pretty cool attraction if you are buying a collector car and the rotary is certainly something to talk about. It also performs well and sounds super cool.

I don't think I'm out of bounds saying the FD will be worth more in 25 years than the Supra but only time will tell. There is very little I like about the Supra other than I'll take it over a 90s mustang.

YEP

Tem120

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Horsepower doesn't make a car better either . the FD with half the hp is probably a better "track" car than that 700 hp Supra I'm with Fritz on the I think supras are great but I don't feel the same way about one that I do about my fd

Fritz Flynn

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Lots of fast FDs running around on various road courses and competing at auto crosses. Don't see many Supras out side of drag strips

Snook

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supras are the big boob blondes, and sex sells. The majority of people flock to them, not everyone is open minded and looking for special and unique qualities. The RX-7 is the cute woman who has had a rough family life or gone through some tough times to grow to where she is now. But she's incredible in bed, great with the finances and will be a fantastic mother. You just have to dig a little to find these qualities as she's not advertising them and comes with a few drawbacks.

I do agree that FDs will be more collectible in the long term because of the rotary platform, very good forecast.

As far as the handling I'd have to disagree again haha, weren't supras one of the best handling cars built? I believe they outhanded RX-7s other than braking.
Just because it feels like a boat doesn't mean it doesn't handle well, it just doesn't have the go cart feel we love in the FD.

Fritz Flynn

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I'm pretty sure the FD out handled the supra but who gives a sh#t because if you need Car and Driver to tell you which one handles better your *** (literally) needs a cup of coffee.

It's not even close LOL

PS One car may have had a slight tire advantage as well

djseven

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No, you have it backwards. The FD out handled the supra but the Supra's brakes were incredible. It held the record from 70-0 I think for over a decade until some special order Ferrari finally dethroned it. Once again, I am going off memory but the supra's braking ability was second to none for a long time.

Rxmfn7

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The word "handling" is a misguided and somewhat subjective term. You cant just use lap times or skidpad numbers. I think almost anyone would agree that a Miata is a great handling car, yet on paper it does nothing impressive. A new Camaro would run circles around one at any track beside maybe a very tight autoX. The way a car feels and responds to a driver is what makes a car "handle", even if some of these new 2 ton super behemoths on the road can post better times.

ptrhahn

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"Handling", at least in magazines is usually boiled down to a skidpad or cone slalom speed, which is really more about outright grip than handling—which encompasses ability to change direction, transfer weight, balance, etc. Tough to quantify in a pure number in a test that's replicable by anyone.

Fritz Flynn

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Yep wiki says the porsche carrera GT (which is a monster car) finally broke the record

Again all this tells me is the supra had one hell of a good wheel and tire combo on it

It weighs around 3400 pounds. Just imagine the brake record the FD would have with a decent set of pads and tires

TomU

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people with too much money are the scourge of enthusiasts

04G35S

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There is a local Black 94 Touring for sale with 24k miles all original for 18k... I thought that was a decent price. But the drawback is the A/T trans!

RedBaronII

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We all have different reason for owning an FD and just because we don't agree with some opinions, it doesn't means we are knocking the FD or it is a stepping stone.
For me, being Puerto Rican, it's in my genes to have a "ROTOR" car.
I do agree with you on how pretty this car is and will never sell it.
Every time I take mine out, people look and are giving thumbs up at a street light or the highway.
It just happen, that some of us are not so optimistic??, with the perceived increased value/appreciation and collectors desirability, as others.

On the Supra I don't like it.

I agree more with your taste on other cars and moto's.
Love your E30 M3 and Duc's , my closest I have to it is an E46 M3 '05 Competition Package, manual, CSL complete Euro exhaust system, in the CSL color.
On the bikes Honda Hurricane 1988 CBR1000 (a classic already) and a Suzuki GSXR-1000 Matt Mladin Limited Edition 2004.