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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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I just got Garfinkle Torque Brace.... Must Have!!!

I just wanted to pass on my experience with MR. Garfinkle.

I was over at his place all day today and got one of his famous torque brace..

I have heard so much about this and thought, why not.. and price was super reasonable.. especially after installation and test drive.
Shifting seems to be more accurate.. and just over all feel of the car seem.. CRISP.. I don't know how else I could describe it.. On my 200+ mile journey back to Bham, I was just amazed by how much smoother and crisp the car seemed.. I highly recommend his brace.. and its pretty much true about what others have said on other threads...

Call him and get one..

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:04 AM
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Here are some pics of my NEW brace..

I didn't get a chance to paint them.. I'll do that next week.

Far as quality, I have to say, "just look at the size of the plate". Its by far thickest plate and mounting brackets I have seen.. for a torque brace.


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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Do these add stress to other parts of the car? I was thinking of gettting one, but was told it would add undue stress to the tranny.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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Ok... So how does this compare to other braces? I notice this one is not adjustable like others.. Do people load the braces on certain applications?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Do these add stress to other parts of the car? I was thinking of gettting one, but was told it would add undue stress to the tranny.
To be honest.. I wish I would of gotten this before I killed my 5th gear synchos..

If you think of it this way, I think you will see that this brace is more benificial to the tranny than possible undue stress you might of heard.

I'm pissed that I didn't get it sooner.. I been telling people.. Few mods that I have done really made difference.. PFC, HKS twin power, and Garfinkle Torque brace..
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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Ok... So how does this compare to other braces? I notice this one is not adjustable like others.. Do people load the braces on certain applications?
I've heard this brace benefits almost everyone... Drag, it help avoid mis shifts..
Track, pretty much the same reason..

normal daily driver, it helps from stripping your 5th gear synchros.

Its not adjustable.. But its does have rubber bushing that helps absorb some shock.

Try it and I think you'll see what I mean..
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Solid motor mounts
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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its not adjustable because its tailor made for "YOUR" car. there is no need for it to be "preloaded". that will end up causing problems. by preloading the brace you add stress to the fender well AND the UIM.

phil is right. . . this brace benefits everyone. solid motor mounts are plainly unbearable on a street car. theres another reason for have the ETB mounted on your car. . . especially is this location. the higher the brace the more supported the engine is. if you have a bus and you take a sharp turn in it. . . the bus will flip. this is why test cars are seen with long rails extending way beyond the sides of the car. . . usually found on SUV's. with those rails the SUV rocks over, but does not flip.

so. . . you can apply that to the engine. the brace on the compression side of the engine. when you throttle over, the engine doesnt move as much. this benefits a lot of things. by having a sound car that doesnt shift and move around you have a tighter, better handling car. this is why people are talking about the car feeling different in corners and such.

by ADDING another mount. . . you are strengthening the engines mounting apparatus. . . (did i spell that right?)

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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I guess.. but I don't want to pull my engine when there is much easier solution AND cheaper solution. Garfinkle's torque brace.. It just makes more sense.. Of course thats my opinion..

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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i don't agree with claiming his brace to be the end all-

i think you should rename this, just got a "torque" brace

as you are describing the results from simply having a stiff engine

why not try some real motor mounts and then post results
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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Is there a place to buy this online? Or do you have to call garfinkle and order one over the phone, plus how much is it? thanks
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Once I get my other brake caliper painted I'll head down and get one. I wasn't paying attention to how the car ran with the torque brace in David's car because the thing is raw power and it's soooo much different than stock. As far as I remember it seems tighter. His car is amazing! Absolutely Amazing...

Phil - I'm going to check with that guy tomorrow about the cap. I'll let you know -

Jack

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by 93BlackFD
i don't agree with claiming his brace to be the end all-

i think you should rename this, just got a "torque" brace

as you are describing the results from simply having a stiff engine

why not try some real motor mounts and then post results

Because for a daily driven street car the ONLY REAL motor mounts to use are the stock mounts....and he already has them.

The tq brace works, thats all there is to it. Garfinkle has a very nice setup with the brace.

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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A brace is a brace. There are about 5 different models to choose from and they all do the samething.

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by 93BlackFD
i don't agree with claiming his brace to be the end all-

i think you should rename this, just got a "torque" brace

as you are describing the results from simply having a stiff engine

why not try some real motor mounts and then post results
Sure, but I'm not going to go thru all that hassle if I could just bolt something up... especially without lifting the car?? I'm too lazy.. Let me know how your engine is coming along.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Jason
A brace is a brace. There are about 5 different models to choose from and they all do the samething.

Jason
I agree.. brace is a brace.. just like strut tower brace is just a tower brace, they all do the same thing.. why do we not all get the cheap ebay ones for 20??... quality.. nothing against you jason, I think you sell great stuff.. I'm just pointing out, Garfinkles braces are very well made.. and in my opinion, one of the best one out there.

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by xstacy7
Once I get my other brake caliper painted I'll head down and get one. I wasn't paying attention to how the car ran with the torque brace in David's car because the thing is raw power and it's soooo much different than stock. As far as I remember it seems tighter. His car is amazing! Absolutely Amazing...

Phil - I'm going to check with that guy tomorrow about the cap. I'll let you know -

Jack
Thanks Jack.. I appreciate your help..
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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hey phil what's his contact number? or email and how much. i want one bad but where m i going to put my profec b brain. it is sitting in that area right now where it bolts in to the car.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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.... but I don't want to pull my engine....
Which is everyonce in a while

Since this is really a thread about torque braces, I thought I'd share something interesting....

My friend's uncle had a 600+hp mid 80s 911. Oddly enough, the car was called Rambo
Anyways, he has his own shop, so he fabricated something interesting.....

He designed an electric hydraulic torque brace. It was controlled by an ECU which monitored engine RPM and TPS position. The heavier the load...the higher RPM.... the more the brace would push against the engine.

Any thoughts on such a system?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Flybye

He designed an electric hydraulic torque brace. It was controlled by an ECU which monitored engine RPM and TPS position. The heavier the load...the higher RPM.... the more the brace would push against the engine.

Any thoughts on such a system?
Sounds like a cool idea, but it sounds heavy.

I guess when you have a 600hp street car you might not be counting the pounds though.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I'd be interested to know how many of the people who have slapped this Band-aid on their engines actually bothered to check the condition of their motor mounts and differential mounts beforehand...
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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^ thats what i was wondering jim. you have to make sure everyhtign eles is still good also. cant' just fix one thing if 2 other thing are causing the problem.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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^ thats what i was wondering jim. you have to make sure everyhtign eles is still good also. cant' just fix one thing if 2 other thing are causing the problem.
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Maybe we should all think about that.. Hmm.. i think alot of us say things like that but most cases, we don't check everything.. like I said before, we all don't have a way to lift our engine, check it, replace the new mounts for hundreds of dollars, and then put it back on.. This was once again, simple, cheap solution that worked for me..

I'm not ready to pull my engine.. and when I do, I'm sure I'll put new mounts, and this brace back on.. I've heard of this before.. but by having one.. its definitely worth it..
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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im interested, how do i get one? is there a number or an email or webpage?
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