I'm glad both of you picked Garfinkle's brace..

 

If it were me personally I'd rather have good stock engine mounts with a Garfinkle brace. Anything else and I'd have to ask myself..... why would I want to run engine mounts that create to much vibration for a daily driver when I can run the stockers and help support them with a brace? This way I get the stiff engine support of solid mounts without the vibration, plus as an added bonus its much cheaper and easier to install.

I do agree thought that people shouldnt use it as a crutch for bad engine mounts, it should only be used along with good mounts

STEPHEN

 

Slightly off-topic, but...

You know, it absolutely cracks me up that when discussing the merits of the rotary engine vs. piston engines, someone inevitably brings up the smoothness of the rotary design which has none of the "up-down reciprocating banging" of the piston engine... yet almost no one wants solid engine mounts on their rotary car because they're afraid of the noise and vibration...

 

i think its a misinterpretation. a solid mounted rotary isnt gonna be smooth and "plush" feeling. . . were all sure of that. when i think of smoothness/rotary engine, i think about the smooth acceleration that a nonturbo gives you.

just my thought on it. . . he

 

For my taste, I'd rather put on more stable mounts, than a brace, since 90% of the solid braces out there create a lot more vibration than Polyurethane, and the ones with shock absorbers someone already bashed

SPOautos must have a miracle brace where it doesn't add vibration yet holds on like a monster !

 

haha, try one for yourself. the garfinkle brace is very pleasant, yet feels better than no brace at all. thats the brace spoautos speaks of. . . the brace i have as well as herblenny. . . and many others for that matter.

paul

 

I drove my car tonight and man.. Its nice.. I like the feel of it.. I think it makes it pretty smooth..

 

I disagree, I had a completey shot driver's side motor mount and I installed the KIC brace from www.rx7store.net and it fixed the porblem quite well. in fact, when I installed the new motor mount anyway I didnt; tell much of a difference. That is the beauty about having it adjustable. Also, engine mounts do not stay the same, the torque brace should be adjusted evey once in awhiel and mounts wear out, etc.

nobody will gaurantee the brace if the engine mounts are shot, but that doesn;t mean it doesn't help. and to those who say it will cause damage that is crap. I had it on my car with shot engine mount for 6 months with 374rwhp through dyno, launches, etc. The only differnce when I change engine mounts was that I preloaded the other mount to get shifting perfet.

 

yes tons of cars come with them stock, especially FWD. most RWD dont use them beacuse the toqrue is tranferred better to the mounts, but then again most cars dont; have rotaries or only 2 engienmounts.

 

glad to hear people realizing the benefits of solid brace. I have been syaing that for years now, the rubber in garfinkles makes no sense, of course I am biased to the rx7store brace from KIC the garfinlke piece is not a solid brace.

the entire point is to reduce movement, that is why teh rx7store is solid, works much better, gafinkles one is like a step down in control and advantages.

ALso, to support flybye of course solid engine mounts are better, that is the best way to reduce engine movement and roll. However, there is a huge downside, soldi engine mounts will rattle the car your teeth out of your mouth. anybody with them will attest to that, solid enginemounts ar enot one of those mods for strip that you can puut on the street it is really crazy. Thus, the toqure brace great comprimise and prevents most broll and movement, especially when it is adjuatable.

http://66.216.67.51/product.asp?0=209&1=339&3=613

 

That's the mount I had on my '94 and it was rough, it would set off the car alarm, when it was armed and the car was idling.. (Turbo Timer)
I Purposely didn't go and stick it on my '93 R1 due to the dissatisfaction of the brace on the '94, I was thinking about the Rotary Extreme feed mod, so that it slips by the ABS, with the shock absorber, but decided against it, and fixed the problem @ the source.
At the engine mounts... and with the diff brace I ordered from Rx7Store.net (Jason where is it ? )
I should have a very solid drive terrain.

 

 

Dcrosby,, If you are not pleased with the Garfinkle brace just send it back for a refund .

 

PM'd you!

 

You guys know what material the brace is made of. I just got mine today. He mentions painting and powdercoating but not polishing...I am going to polish unless it will corode...anybody know? Thanks

 

Surface ground cold rolled steel , 3/8 thick for the brackets . The rod and ends are steel ,threaded and brazed together . The bushings are rubber with steel sleeves . Te supplied bolts are stainless steel . The allen bolts are steel, the pollynuts are aluminum .The steel will rust so paint or powdercoat or chrome is needed .

 

I like that, where is the website ?? how much is it ?? i m deciding to get one for my project car.....

 

how do i get in contact with garfinkle?

 

(615)893-4469

kz1, for a car that is daily driven it needs to be able to move. not allowing it to move makes things go unnaturally bad. allowing for movement keeps things nice longer. thats the reason rubber is nice to have. . . and keep.

paul

 

If you've ever been around any long time MSFT'ers you'd understand. Its downright scary..

They are freakin brainwashed.

I gotta break out my video clip of MonkeyBoy (Paul Allen)....always good for a chuckle.

 

was that an answer to my question?

 

Rotorbrain is watching the game, but that is Davids phone . He is at work now .His son will give you that number if you call now .

 

I have Rotorsports Racing's polyurethane engine mounts on my car and they're fantastic. I then added the torque brace Jason sells, but had to take it off. The mounts noticeably increase vibration and with the torque brace, the entire dashboard literaly pulsated - you could see it.

So was the torque brace nice? Yes, very much so.

Did it do its job? Hell, yes.

But with stiff engine mounts, it was just overkill. There was nothing left to absorb the vibrations. Just my experience.

 

Garfinkle would like for some one with the polyurethane engine mounts to try his brace to see if the rubber bushings make a differance . Just so he will have the info

 

is there any webpage i can see his products?
i have problems with my engine mounts and it seems a good choise. do you have the mounts installed on your car?
thanks