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what I did after was open it up to put a new engine wiring harness from wiring specialties, freshen up fuel system but everything was kept stock besides the wiring harness.
for the crank angle sensors I put trigger on top (NE) and home on bottom (G). Should be right? also i have an apexi pfc. isnt there a way to check from the commander that theyre in the right position? when i crank the car it goes to 300rpm from the starter. motor never turns over just the starter
I also put in a brand new ignition coil harness from Atkins, new sparkplugs, new ignition wires, and checked for spark. there is spark
i can confirm i am getting fuel as well. fuel pump runs.
so i got air fuel and spark but the car doesnt start anymore. maybe i gotta put starting fluid since it sat for 3 months as i worked on it? if i use starting fluid can i put it through the boost gauge nipple on the UIM?
i can also confirm engine isnt seized. when i try cranking, air comes out the exhaust and i can smell gasoline back there too.
as for the other connectors i didnt do any guesswork. i wired it up and made sure.
i have a strong starter as well. its the upgraded one from banzai. Battery is charged too. I dont get the engine to sputter even once, I only hear the starter trying.
So, what is this wiring harness you speak of?
What exactly did you change when you "freshen up fuel system"?
it’s the OEM LHD manual wiring harness from wiring specialties. Simply replaces the old one.
by freshening up the fuel system I put new fuel lines from the FPR and FPD to the hardlines. I put a new FPR and FPD. I also sent injectors out to be cleaned and replaced. I also put new injector diffusers and new related rubber. I also put a new banjo bolt fuel line that connects the primary and secondary rails.
what I did after was open it up to put a new engine wiring harness from wiring specialties, freshen up fuel system but everything was kept stock besides the wiring harness.
for the crank angle sensors I put trigger on top (NE) and home on bottom (G). Should be right? also i have an apexi pfc. isnt there a way to check from the commander that theyre in the right position? when i crank the car it goes to 300rpm from the starter. motor never turns over just the starter
I also put in a brand new ignition coil harness from Atkins, new sparkplugs, new ignition wires, and checked for spark. there is spark
i can confirm i am getting fuel as well. fuel pump runs.
so i got air fuel and spark but the car doesnt start anymore. maybe i gotta put starting fluid since it sat for 3 months as i worked on it? if i use starting fluid can i put it through the boost gauge nipple on the UIM?
i can also confirm engine isnt seized. when i try cranking, air comes out the exhaust and i can smell gasoline back there too.
as for the other connectors i didnt do any guesswork. i wired it up and made sure.
i have a strong starter as well. its the upgraded one from banzai. Battery is charged too. I dont get the engine to sputter even once, I only hear the starter trying.
No idea why it wont start. Any ideas guys?
If you had air, fuel, and spark, the engine would at least make ignition noises (unless it's heavily flooded).
Try using a bit of starter fluid and report back. That will at least tell us if your ignition system is working.
Your Port Air Control and Charge Control solenoids seem to be unhooked, so I assume you are not on the stock emissions and turbo setup?
If you had air, fuel, and spark, the engine would at least make ignition noises (unless it's heavily flooded).
Try using a bit of starter fluid and report back. That will at least tell us if your ignition system is working.
Your Port Air Control and Charge Control solenoids seem to be unhooked, so I assume you are not on the stock emissions and turbo setup?
while I was down there I also deleted all my emissions stuff and used block off plates. The remaining emissions connectors that went there are left unhooked. As for turbo setup it’s stock I’m just using manual boost controllers instead of the boost controlling solenoids by the UIM.
yeah the engine isn’t making any ignition noises at all which is why I was wondering if my cas sensors (NE and G) were mixed up and if there was any way to tell from the apexi unit without having to try to swap them since it’s hard.
as for the starting fluid can I spray it through the UIM nipple where the boost gauge would go? Thanks
I don't see why not. Or you could just switch the couplers, I guess? I thought they were color-coded, though.
they were color coded on the OEM harness but the OEM harness wiring specialties sent they’re not. They’re just labeled trigger and home and I put trigger on top where NE goes and home on bottom where G goes.
they’re super hard to get to because the connector pins are facing the engine. I’ll attach a picture
also you mentioned my charge control and air port solenoids weren’t attached. How can you tell? They should be
To be clear, the charge control solenoid is the one from this diagram you’re talking about? Because it should be connected. As for the air port one I’m not sure exactly which one you’re talking about but if it’s essential to the stock turbo system it should be connected
To be clear, the charge control solenoid is the one from this diagram you’re talking about? Because it should be connected. As for the air port one I’m not sure exactly which one you’re talking about but if it’s essential to the stock turbo system it should be connected
Here is another picture of the car trying to start with only the starter trying (motor not making any sounds of starting)
as you guys can see it has engine rev being detected so does that mean I put my crank and cam sensors in the right place? I really wanna make sure I don’t have those connected wrong. Thank you
if I switch the connectors this way won’t the teeth or something like that be misaligned? Also is there a way to check I have them in the right place first through apexi? Like if I am getting engine revs in the apexi doesn’t that mean my crank sensors aren’t switched up?
Just pull the vacuum chamber and look at them. Stop wasting time, just rule it out. If they were OEM connections it would be easy, white on top, grey bottom.
Just pull the vacuum chamber and look at them. Stop wasting time, just rule it out. If they were OEM connections it would be easy, white on top, grey bottom.
it’s a wiring specialties harness so they’re both the same color unfortunately. To pull the vac chamber I have to take off the elbow, throttle body, take the bolt off the oil fill neck and then remove alternator. Then put them all back together after changing connectors and hope it starts up.
If there’s an easier way I can confirm they’re connected the right way through the apexi first that’d be better. If not, then I’ll have to do that
If there was I would have said yes, the first time you asked. 20 minutes and you will know
I appreciate ya man just wanted to make sure. Ya looks like I’ll have to do that but before I’m going to put some starting fluid in it. I had a stuck nut on the elbow that I just got off so about to give it a try with the starting fluid. I’ve ordered tons of parts from you and spoke to you on the phone so I was excited when you came in here initially haha. Thanks again
If there was I would have said yes, the first time you asked. 20 minutes and you will know
Update
so I put starting fluid in the throttle body and guess what? It started making ignition sounds. Motor started moving but then it died.
so I’m guessing there’s no fuel going to the car?
if the car was making ignition sounds does that mean the crank angle sensors are connected right?
As for fuel I was sure it was getting fuel before because I actually had a leak at the hose that connects to the fuel pressure dampener whenever I’d try to start the car fuel would leak from there.
also my apexi shows injector duty so I’m confused here. Any other way to check if fuel is going into the motor? What could even be the issue I’ve got the connectors connected correctly. I was thinking of starting it without starter fluid and checking if spark plugs were wet
12-04-23, 07:35 PM
