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Old Aug 31, 2021 | 04:03 PM
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The FD Fuel Line Recall from last century...

I have a '94 and the fuel line recall was never done. I bought the car in summer 2010, saw the recall had not been done. So I took it to the local dealer in the fall of 2010 and picked it up the following day. They said they didn't on start it and that they still had additional parts to get and they would call me when they came in. It is now 2021 and they haven't called back. What should I do?

Just kidding. It's my own fault for letting it slide. I figured I could always get it done and I wasn't driving it much at all anyway. But when I looked at the Mazda recall site a while ago, it said there aren't any open recalls (probably fell off the end of the supported years), and at my last check it even says the VIN is invalid... WTH Hence my post.

1. What can I check to confirm they indeed didn't do anything on the job?
2. Anyone know if they still make the kits?
3. Is this something I can do myself if I scratch up the parts? Like w/o removing the engine?
4. Or is this something better left for the dealer's shop to mess up? Because I can mess it up myself for far less money.

Appreciate any replies and advice. Thanks for reading.
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Old Aug 31, 2021 | 05:46 PM
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If your lines are leaking then I'd say you have one of three choices: 1) find somebody selling good condition used fuel lines. 2) make new lines using PTFE hose and fittings. 3) make new lines using steel tubing.

If your lines aren't leaking, well... if it ain't broke...
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:25 AM
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I THINK you can still get the recall kit new. It's actually a pretty good deal since you get a lot of expensive fuel lines for a good price.

Look at this picture -




On the left side going between the 2 fuel rails is the updated fuel line hose. It has the ends crimped on, no hose clamps. If your hose looks like that the recall has been done, you should be able to unbolt the pressure tank and see down in there.

If you haven't had it done it's not the most fun job in the car to do. It is worth doing, Mazda did that recall for a very good reason.

I think somewhere (search around) is the document Mazda gave dealers showing the install procedure.

Your local dealer should be able to tell by VIN if that recall has been done, I believe. May want to check with them.

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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:49 AM
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pm me the last 6 of the vin, and i can look to see if its been done.

i think the parts are NLA, well the kit is, you can still get the fuel line by itself and the clamps.
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
I THINK you can still get the recall kit new. It's actually a pretty good deal since you get a lot of expensive fuel lines for a good price.

Look at this picture -




On the left side going between the 2 fuel rails is the updated fuel line hose. It has the ends crimped on, no hose clamps. If your hose looks like that the recall has been done, you should be able to unbolt the pressure tank and see down in there.

If you haven't had it done it's not the most fun job in the car to do. It is worth doing, Mazda did that recall for a very good reason.

I think somewhere (search around) is the document Mazda gave dealers showing the install procedure.

Your local dealer should be able to tell by VIN if that recall has been done, I believe. May want to check with them.

Dale
So the right angle hose with the crimps? Thanks, I'll check. And a dealer, too. I've since read the NHTSA recall requirement goes out 15 years from first sale, so I was probably SOL in the first place. It doesn't do the fan cool down cycle so fingers crossed that's the part they were waiting on (hopes meet dreams and have a baby)

I remember the service manager's last words being in effect, "Well, it's not like it's going to catch fire..." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks again.



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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark
I THINK you can still get the recall kit new.
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N3A1-13-S70A is NLA. however you can still get the stuff separate, its just way more monies
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
N3A1-13-S70A is NLA. however you can still get the stuff separate, its just way more monies
Maybe this? Don't know if the fan timer would be included.
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
pm me the last 6 of the vin, and i can look to see if its been done.

i think the parts are NLA, well the kit is, you can still get the fuel line by itself and the clamps.
Not to thread jack, but is there any resource available for us RHD owners to see if this was done on our car (if a recall was even issued in Japan to begin with) or if the car came with the updated parts from factory ? Mine is a 95 MY so I'm not entirely sure, though worst case I can just remove the pressure tank and look for the fuel line with the crimped on hose I imagine.
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SwappedNA
Not to thread jack, but is there any resource available for us RHD owners to see if this was done on our car (if a recall was even issued in Japan to begin with) or if the car came with the updated parts from factory ? Mine is a 95 MY so I'm not entirely sure, though worst case I can just remove the pressure tank and look for the fuel line with the crimped on hose I imagine.
there were no recalls for Japan, but a 1995 car would have the updated fuel line and coolant stuff at the factory.
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Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SwappedNA
Not to thread jack, but is there any resource available for us RHD owners to see if this was done on our car (if a recall was even issued in Japan to begin with) or if the car came with the updated parts from factory ? Mine is a 95 MY so I'm not entirely sure, though worst case I can just remove the pressure tank and look for the fuel line with the crimped on hose I imagine.
I don't know what happened as far as recalls or anything in Japan. The recall in question was Mazda North America doing it because US Department of Transportation said it needed to be done. I don't know if a similar regulatory agency had Mazda Japan do something similar.

I will say the original fuel line setup was pretty crap, there were legitimate engine fires caused because of the poor design of the lines. I think I remember hearing about an FD that burned down in the owner's garage and burned part of their house too, this would have been back in the days of the RX-7 mailing list.

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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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I JUST had an engine fire in my FD beneath the intake plenum. Discolored the paint on the hood. Insurance says to go ahead and get it fixed... now to find an RX7 shop in Western WI or ship it to Pettit Racing in FL.
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