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Old Jul 15, 2018 | 08:45 PM
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mod away... the market for cars modded well will be higher down the road if not already...
its what he next gen of buyers grew up with and the drivers that will appreciate it...
you may lose some value but gained it in enjoyment....

I hope so

It would be nice to break the cycle of losing >50% of the value of every mod I bolt on.........
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by amp
mod away... the market for cars modded well will be higher down the road if not already...
its what the next gen of buyers grew up with and the drivers that will appreciate it...
you may lose some value but gained it in enjoyment....
Originally Posted by FEED AFFLUX v5
I hope so

It would be nice to break the cycle of losing >50% of the value of every mod I bolt on.........
Mods will increase the value if they are done properly on higher mileage cars to the point of exceeding the very best low mileage car. A V8 FD (nice car but nothing over the top) just sold on BAT for 38.

I feel the right buyer would pay over 50k for Gordon's 3 rotor and as we know a bone stock FD just sold for 49k plus 5 percent so call it 51,500. No doubt that sale just set a whole knew bench mark on FD values but I do expect other cars with similar mileage etc... to sell for 50k or more going forward

If Rich's single turbo car had PS and AC he may get 50k plus etc.... Just really depends upon the car and how the car is modded, who did the work, how it's driven etc.....

Personally I'd buy Pete's car for 40k no questions.

On low mileage cars (say sub 30k miles) I'd say you'd be better off leaving it bone stock or it would be hard to get more and potentially you'd get less. Any bolt on mod can be easily reversed but if I know about it and I'm the buyer I'm paying less for a car that's been returned to stock. Most of a time an experienced FD owner or a car guy in general can see the evidence of engine tampering even if it's just a dent in a nut or screw.

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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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It's deja vu all over again!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-36/

Not completely stock, but some reasonable mods - otherwise a virtual twin of the 9,000 mile example that sold last week!
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I feel the right buyer would pay over 50k for Gordon's 3 rotor and as we know a bone stock FD just sold for 49k plus 5 percent so call it 51,500. No doubt that sale just set a whole knew bench mark on FD values but I do expect other cars with similar mileage etc... to sell for 50k or more going forward
Nice to know, Fritz. Then, I'd only lose how much money?

But, it's true that modified cars are going to benefit from the rising prices for stock cars, because it focuses poeple attention on the car. There are many types of buyers out there. Some are collectors of perfect low mile examples and others may just want to have the driving experience and a very nice car. Actually, a more sophisticated buyer in many ways, because they will have to and be able to judge the condition of the car and the quality of the modifications.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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Nice to know, Fritz. Then, I'd only lose how much money?

But, it's true that modified cars are going to benefit from the rising prices for stock cars, because it focuses poeple attention on the car. There are many types of buyers out there. Some are collectors of perfect low mile examples and others may just want to have the driving experience and a very nice car. Actually, a more sophisticated buyer in many ways, because they will have to and be able to judge the condition of the car and the quality of the modifications.
YEP and one thing that will never EVER change and that's the fact that if you mod your car you will not get back the time and cost of those mods. Best case would be 50 cents on the dollar but it's typically 25 cents if the mods are quality/tasteful etc.....
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
YEP and one thing that will never EVER change and that's the fact that if you mod your car you will not get back the time and cost of those mods. Best case would be 50 cents on the dollar but it's typically 25 cents if the mods are quality/tasteful etc.....
Yeah. We all know about mods. I have my car ensured for what I have in it, though. Thank you Haggerty.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 02:00 PM
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That BAT 93 VR FD with light mods will give us a definitive answer to the mods question. I'm guessing that it will sell pretty close to 45K, and that is only because of slightly higher miles than the 49K one that was 100% stock.
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 10:32 PM
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Would you just be providing them proof of this recent sale in the market to justify the increase in stated value?
I think most Classic Car insurance writers are aware of the increase. As long as your car is comparable in quality, and you meet their criteria you should not have a problem. If you ask for some crazy stated valuation that they consider above the norm, they may ask for additional photos & justification. I have a clean driving record and multiple cars insured through them, so it’s usually easy to bump the valuation up periodically.
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
That BAT 93 VR FD with light mods will give us a definitive answer to the mods question. I'm guessing that it will sell pretty close to 45K, and that is only because of slightly higher miles than the 49K one that was 100% stock.
I predict 38250

I like that it's no reserve.
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 06:57 PM
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We have a "gentlemen's" bet Fritz. If I win I will be the new "FD value" guru

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I predict 38250

I like that it's no reserve.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
We have a "gentlemen's" bet Fritz. If I win I will be the new "FD value" guru
LOL.....i believe the mods and mileage could hurt this one but at this point who knows. The market is too wild to make heads or tails of but I for one am having fun watching the FD values rocket higher.

Anyone else want to throw out a number. I'll paypal the winner (closest selling price over or under doesn't matter) 20 bucks but if I win the willing participants paypal me 5 each

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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
LOL.....i believe the mods and mileage could hurt this one but at this point who knows. The market is too wild to make heads or tails of but I for one am having fun watching the FD values rocket higher.

Anyone else want to throw out a number. I'll paypal the winner (closest selling price over or under doesn't matter) 20 bucks but if I win the willing participants paypal me 5 each
I'm in. I say $36k on this one but I missed by nearly $12k on the last one so who knows. Its still perplexed the tan interior car which I believe was the cleanest example struggled to crack $30k. We all know tan is less desired but I wouldn't have imagined it could have made a $10k difference like it appears it did.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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I'm in. I say $36k on this one but I missed by nearly $12k on the last one so who knows. Its still perplexed the tan interior car which I believe was the cleanest example struggled to crack $30k. We all know tan is less desired but I wouldn't have imagined it could have made a $10k difference like it appears it did.
YEP the 30k vr/tan I thought was also cleaner than the 40k VR/back car but it did have tan interior and I think it had 4k more miles. I think we'll find that mileage is the single most influential factor on value. With this strong demand we are seeing more low mileage cars on the market than ever before and although these sellers are making a killing I also expect prices to go higher and higher, up to 75k and possibly beyond over the next several years. We may see these same cars selling for 5 to 10k more in 2 years. I think we'll also start to see a lot more being offered for sale at stupid prices. I can't wait to see some nice 94, 95 cars go on the market.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I also expect prices to go higher and higher, up to 75k and possibly beyond over the next several years. We may see these same cars selling for 5 to 10k more in 2 years.
WHAT ???

Who is paying these rediculous prices? I swear, collectors are ruining things for enhusiests. I remember when you could get a superbird for less than $20k or an LS6 Chevelle (or equivalant) for less than $10k.

It will make tracking my FD even more stressful
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 03:10 PM
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WHAT ???

Who is paying these rediculous prices? I swear, collectors are ruining things for enhusiests. I remember when you could get a superbird for less than $20k or an LS6 Chevelle (or equivalant) for less than $10k.

It will make tracking my FD even more stressful
LOL......don't worry the beat up high mileage track cars will always sell for 5k to 10k plus 20 to 50 percent of invested track mods
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:00 PM
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27,777.77
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 07:40 AM
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I actually like Fritz' number, but I'll get in at $40,000. I'm an optimist.
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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I actually like Fritz' number, but I'll get in at $40,000. I'm an optimist.
Compression is LOW. The compression on my SSM base with 55k miles is a little over a 100. Excellent compression would be 110 and above. This car is at 85 to 90 and it's described as cough cough being in excellent health. That's below average compression especially on a low mileage FD.

Will be interesting to see how this one does for sure. I do love the fact that he compression tested it and it's no reserve, my kind of seller or he has some *****

The market is trippy though so this thing could easily go for 40k plus. After all a brand new engine is 4250. Just one more cool thing about this great car. It's economical despite all the silly rumors about it not being reliable etc....etc.... from people getting 3rd hand info from those listening outside in the hallway that leads to the actual locker room discussion of car guys who may or may not own a 3rd gen LOL
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 11:34 AM
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You guys should use price is right rules. The one that comes closer to the actual price without going over, wins.
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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Montego is the only person that ever admitted to watching price is right
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
You guys should use price is right rules. The one that comes closer to the actual price without going over, wins.
gambling is not allowed as per forum rules LoL

I do like the idea. Are we doing this for every FD/FC/FB posted on BAT?
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 01:38 PM
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Montego is the only person that ever admitted to watching price is right
lol I'm not too bad at it either! Not a big fan of Drew Carey tho as Bob was a much better showman. ok I've said too much...

Originally Posted by FourtyOunce
gambling is not allowed as per forum rules LoL

I do like the idea. Are we doing this for every FD/FC/FB posted on BAT?
I can see that getting out of hand.

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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
You guys should use price is right rules. The one that comes closer to the actual price without going over, wins.
I never liked that BS price is right rule

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Montego is the only person that ever admitted to watching price is right
LOL.......everyone loves the price is right, look at us now obsessing over FD values

Originally Posted by FourtyOunce
gambling is not allowed as per forum rules LoL

I do like the idea. Are we doing this for every FD/FC/FB posted on BAT?
uh oh ........... whoever wins is the FD pricing guru that week... LOL

What's your selling # on this one?
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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Fritz is going to bid $38250
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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Fritz is going to bid $38250
HELLLLL.... NO!!! You know I'm not big on touring models
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