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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mkiv98
I am actually surprised that 9k for a red/tan touring with a blown engine counts as a great deal...I'm still in the mindset of the 15k rule since I bought my running R1 with 73k (and some mods) for 16k just one year ago...

Although I am very happy to see that clean rollers still have a hot market at this price and it seems like the minimum price for a clean FD to start working off of is now over 20k. It's just crazy to have to quickly update (month by month) in my mind what a good deal is
YEP

With each passing month the well is going dry. Very hard to find a deal on a good FD at this time but clearly every now and then one will pop up

At 9k it would be considered a good deal 5 years ago. He just spent 10k on maintenance, it's an original owner (well cared for/garaged car) and from what I can tell it's pretty much bone stock. Engines are cheap compared to interior, body, weather stripping and all the other canned up worms that are opened when someone mods this car.

Your R1 is probably a 20k car today. However as the price goes up on 25 year old sports cars the market narrows substantially.
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by colditz_II
Even without the 94 premium I'd consider it a solid deal. You could drop it off at a shop and have a clean, blank slate for less than what a lot of people are asking. With the 94-95 tax it becomes a screaming deal.
Yep the 94/95 tax is at 3 or 4k.............and for good reason.
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 12:33 PM
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[QUOTE=Fritz Flynn;12264362]CYM is my favorite yellow!

Yes, it is definitely something special!
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
YEP

With each passing month the well is going dry. Very hard to find a deal on a good FD at this time but clearly every now and then one will pop up

At 9k it would be considered a good deal 5 years ago. He just spent 10k on maintenance, it's an original owner (well cared for/garaged car) and from what I can tell it's pretty much bone stock. Engines are cheap compared to interior, body, weather stripping and all the other canned up worms that are opened when someone mods this car.

Your R1 is probably a 20k car today. However as the price goes up on 25 year old sports cars the market narrows substantially.
16k was a great deal then and now, but I want to say that I wish that the car was stock when I bought it...it came with a lot of big name parts (adaptronic, BNR stage 3, aquamist meth injection) but a lot of things were installed in a fashion that doesn't work together all that well. I've only driven the car about 1500 miles since then, most of which was back and forth to the tuning shop to fix and correct and re-tune all kinds of mistakes. I'm finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel but yea I'm having to cancel yet another track day coming up because of some electrical issues I'm currently dealing with.

And this is why the stock cars command a premium...at least I am kind of having fun and capable of sorting these things out. A lot of stuff was custom so there's a lot of exploring and discovering vs just looking at existing documentation. If you just wanted to get in and drive then this wouldn't have been a good example for someone.
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 06:00 PM
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Yep the 94/95 tax is at 3 or 4k.............and for good reason.
Aside from the interior panels being a different texture (which I actually don't prefer), what are the other reasons? I sold my super clean 94 chaste white with 95k miles and 99 spec body for 21k about 2.5 years ago, which I thought was a high price but wouldn't think twice about paying today. My main reason for selling it literally was because I hated the glass moonroof that much.
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mkiv98
Aside from the interior panels being a different texture (which I actually don't prefer), what are the other reasons? I sold my super clean 94 chaste white with 95k miles and 99 spec body for 21k about 2.5 years ago, which I thought was a high price but wouldn't think twice about paying today. My main reason for selling it literally was because I hated the glass moonroof that much.
Well the non textured panels flake, there is only one airbag, the seat belts don't match. On tan interiors, the entire cabin is tan except for the dash. And the tach has all of these in between lines that makes the dash look busy. But ultimately if you have the car that you want, that is all that maters. You prefer the 93's cool. I prefer FD's with sunroofs
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mkiv98
Aside from the interior panels being a different texture (which I actually don't prefer), what are the other reasons? I sold my super clean 94 chaste white with 95k miles and 99 spec body for 21k about 2.5 years ago, which I thought was a high price but wouldn't think twice about paying today. My main reason for selling it literally was because I hated the glass moonroof that much.
Biggest performance benefits are from a reinforced rear subframe, which helps with wheel hop and rear traction, and a baffled gas tank which helps with fuel slosh. Outside of that, performance benefits on the ‘94s aren’t really noticeable. Minor enhancements were made to materials and what not, they also tweaked the sway bars but again, not a huge deal.

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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 10:54 PM
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Just production year tax in the us market .like 95 is worth way more than 93 94s.
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Old Apr 9, 2018 | 07:32 PM
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Can't sell it? Rent it out then!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...1825104394/amp
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Montego
Hopefully he has some street tires in case of rain in either case he'll need a very good insurance policy. Maybe that's why it's 1k a day

I'd NEVER rent out any of my FDs for 1k a day, maybe 2k LOL. A track FD would have to be like 3k for the weekend and you'd probably still go broke. Tires alone are 1200.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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Yeah. You can rent my FD for full replacement cost per day.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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Yeah. You can rent my FD for full replacement cost per day.
How much is that?
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 12:14 PM
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Where can I find those wheels?!
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Hopefully he has some street tires in case of rain in either case he'll need a very good insurance policy. Maybe that's why it's 1k a day

I'd NEVER rent out any of my FDs for 1k a day, maybe 2k LOL. A track FD would have to be like 3k for the weekend and you'd probably still go broke. Tires alone are 1200.
I wonder if his insurance company knows about his venture? Maybe he is on the ball and offers a third party insurance policy that the renter must purchase, covering the total loss of the car of course.

Anyway, the reason I posted this is because it ties in with the increasing value of RX-7s . It's pretty insane to think that people would consider paying that much to rent an FD... If someone mentioned 10 years ago that one day an FD would be for rent for 1K a day, they would had gotten laughed off the forum.
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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Where can I find those wheels?!
http://www.bbs-usa.com/road_wheels/w...s.cfm?wheel=48

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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
I wonder if his insurance company knows about his venture? Maybe he is on the ball and offers a third party insurance policy that the renter must purchase, covering the total loss of the car of course.

Anyway, the reason I posted this is because it ties in with the increasing value of RX-7s . It's pretty insane to think that people would consider paying that much to rent an FD... If someone mentioned 10 years ago that one day an FD would be for rent for 1K a day, they would had gotten laughed off the forum.
Yep esp considering NEW fancy Lambos etc... rent for 1500
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 04:18 PM
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Wheel Details - Road Wheels - BBS USA

BBS USA
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Toll Free: +1 (877) 832-8209
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For some reason I thought they were a model from their forged line discontinued a while ago. They might be, since the smallest CH-Rs in FD fitment are 19", and those sure as hell don't look like 19s.

Regardless, no...I would not rent my car out on Turo.
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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If it’s built right and survives a week, you could easily pay for a rebuild and have money left over...

Not saying it’s what I’d do, but from a monetary standpoint, it may be quite lucrative.

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Old Apr 13, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Forget the engine, I would be much more concerned about someone wrapping the car around a telephone pole. I imagine a claim involving renting your car via Turo would be an insurance nightmare.
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
Perfect example of the best deal I've seen in years and it likely sold in 2 hours. If I had space I'd have bought it no questions asked other than bank info for wire.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...oller-1124739/
I have owned about 10 FD's and lsx swapped 8 out of the ten. Just to put your minds at ease this car will not get swapped lol. Its actually worth more bone stock than swapped. The car is really nice no broken interior pieces all of them are in excellent condition, all the exterior trim pieces are in new condition, nothing is missing and its completely stock except a RB cat-back exhaust.
I knew this car was a great deal and paid over the 9k asking price without hesitation just because I knew it was worth way more than he was asking.
1994 touring (Glass sunroof hardly ever see these and the owner had the sunshade cover for the glass roof which is almost impossible to find)
Red/Tan not the best color combo, but everything else about it is what you look for when you go to buy a FD Rx7.
1 owner and every service record from day 1 came with the car along with the most comprehensive log journal.
Window Sticker and sales brochures along with several car magazines during the mid 90s featuring the RX7. He really maintained the car with an open checkbook at the dealership. He replaced any part that began to show any signs of wear. Which brings me to where the car is now... he was told by the dealership the coolant seals were bad and thats why the coolant light was on. When I received the car I charged the battery and started the car it fired right up and ran smooth. I drove it around the block and had no issues other than the 2nd turbo not boosting. I let the car set that night and the next morning started addressing the no boost and found a few of the rats nest vacuum lines had come off and the AST tank was leaking coolant. Fixed those two issues and have been driving it everyday for little over a week now with no issues so far. Hot starts, cold starts are great and its not losing any coolant in about 250miles so far. I will keep driving it and see what happens but so far so good.

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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1swap
I have owned about 10 FD's and lsx swapped 8 out of the ten. Just to put your minds at ease this car will not get swapped lol. Its actually worth more bone stock than swapped. The car is really nice no broken interior pieces all of them are in excellent condition, all the exterior trim pieces are in new condition, nothing is missing and its completely stock except a RB cat-back exhaust.
I knew this car was a great deal and paid over the 9k asking price without hesitation just because I knew it was worth way more than he was asking.
1994 touring (Glass sunroof hardly ever see these and the owner had the sunshade cover for the glass roof which is almost impossible to find)
Red/Tan not the best color combo, but everything else about it is what you look for when you go to buy a FD Rx7.
1 owner and every service record from day 1 came with the car along with the most comprehensive log journal.
Window Sticker and sales brochures along with several car magazines during the mid 90s featuring the RX7. He really maintained the car with an open checkbook at the dealership. He replaced any part that began to show any signs of wear. Which brings me to where the car is now... he was told by the dealership the coolant seals were bad and thats why the coolant light was on. When I received the car I charged the battery and started the car it fired right up and ran smooth. I drove it around the block and had no issues other than the 2nd turbo not boosting. I let the car set that night and the next morning started addressing the no boost and found a few of the rats nest vacuum lines had come off and the AST tank was leaking coolant. Fixed those two issues and have been driving it everyday for little over a week now with no issues so far. Hot starts, cold starts are great and its not losing any coolant in about 250miles so far. I will keep driving it and see what happens but so far so good.
Very nice!

I had a suspicion the engine might be ok. Again nicely done and best of a luck with what was truly one of the best deals on this forum, EVER!
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Originally Posted by ls1swap
I have owned about 10 FD's and lsx swapped 8 out of the ten. Just to put your minds at ease this car will not get swapped lol. Its actually worth more bone stock than swapped. The car is really nice no broken interior pieces all of them are in excellent condition, all the exterior trim pieces are in new condition, nothing is missing and its completely stock except a RB cat-back exhaust.
I knew this car was a great deal and paid over the 9k asking price without hesitation just because I knew it was worth way more than he was asking.
1994 touring (Glass sunroof hardly ever see these and the owner had the sunshade cover for the glass roof which is almost impossible to find)
Red/Tan not the best color combo, but everything else about it is what you look for when you go to buy a FD Rx7.
1 owner and every service record from day 1 came with the car along with the most comprehensive log journal.
Window Sticker and sales brochures along with several car magazines during the mid 90s featuring the RX7. He really maintained the car with an open checkbook at the dealership. He replaced any part that began to show any signs of wear. Which brings me to where the car is now... he was told by the dealership the coolant seals were bad and thats why the coolant light was on. When I received the car I charged the battery and started the car it fired right up and ran smooth. I drove it around the block and had no issues other than the 2nd turbo not boosting. I let the car set that night and the next morning started addressing the no boost and found a few of the rats nest vacuum lines had come off and the AST tank was leaking coolant. Fixed those two issues and have been driving it everyday for little over a week now with no issues so far. Hot starts, cold starts are great and its not losing any coolant in about 250miles so far. I will keep driving it and see what happens but so far so good.
If I am reading it correctly, the car finally went for US$18,000? Good on you for giving him a fair market price.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:59 AM
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If I am reading it correctly, the car finally went for US$18,000? Good on you for giving him a fair market price.
I think he meant he paid the 9k asking price without negotiating, I think it would have been a battle with other people to get to the car first.
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Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mkiv98
I think he meant he paid the 9k asking price without negotiating, I think it would have been a battle with other people to get to the car first.
I paid him MORE than the 9k he was asking just to make sure I would get the car over anyone else just wanting to pay the 9k asking price,
but i did not pay 9k over the asking price. I am a nice guy but not that nice LOL
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I paid $25,5k for my 95 FD with 36kmiles. Orig owner, lived in Fla. Petit Racing did turbo rebuild at 24k miles. Had Petit put in 10k in motor, another 5k other / ie Peter Farel exhaust. I’ve done really nothing to it. But after putting off, gonna give the girl some new shoes, do a nice walk over . It’s had a Battery draw which orig owner had an issue with. Need to get that dialed in. Airbag now this winter off storage starts to blink. The current rims on it now have slow leaks in them and will flatten out. BBS LM-R 18” rims wheels about $6k. So like 32k in it. No need to sell it, I’ve been told that in next 15-20 years to really see the price rise for the well kept ones out there. It’s not an exotic like a Ferrari Porsche but it is unique with that Rotary motor. But it never, ever fails that every single time I take her out. Even in 5 mile treks, some person has to get my attention and yell awesome or love that car or say they ran 3 red lights to catch up and give a thumbs up. Stop and get gas, 10 min convo with complete strangers. No lie or exaturation. A clean looking 7 draws attention

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