lol, i worded that badly, i mean to say its nice, its feels finished and fully thought out. its built nicely.
quality feeling product.

but yeah you're not towing much with it

 

Gotcha, and totally agreed. It's a really nice, thought out vehicle. The adjusting ride heights for efficiency vs. offroad abilities. The dash, the interior etc etc. It's a pretty badass vehicle if you're going to use it for light duty. I have some reservations about long term viability with these new EVs though, and i guess only time will tell.

 

I'm guessing the cost of battery replacement is going to come down quite a bit while at the same time the range increases. With this in mind I think at some point buying an EV will be a no brainer.

 

i was going to say the battery is really expensive but the Plaid battery for the S, 1111111-20-H is only 91,000 shekels, which is like $22,000. why the price list is in Shekels is anyone's guess

the problem with Tesla is that they don't really sell parts, so its not really how much, but IF they decide they feel like selling you one.

 

The larger EV batteries have already shown life expectancy similar to an ICE

The larger the battery, the less often you get near the fully drained state. That helps the battery to last a whole lot longer. So, buy an EV with a large battery if you're planning on keeping it for a while.

If you're gonna tow and do trips over 300 miles without stopping for lunch, stick with ICE

 

8k-mile R1 posted on BaT yesterday

 

Showroom R1....might set new record price
Re EV's......Fed mandates apparently think electric power grows on trees.....last time I looked power generation comes from 40% natural gas / 20% nuclear / 20% coal

 

R1 needs some interior plastics love @tomsn16




Is it a potential concours car? Or a preservation car? Or?

For either case what is the best way to deal with the condition of the plastics?

New battery cover should be one that matches the aging of the rest of the engine bay (imo).

 

Labor to change out an ev battery is crazy. They have to wear special gloves and close off the area around it. We hade to replace a new Lightning battery already. I just looked up the price for them and the "extended range" battery is $46907.06 and the standard is $34393.48!

 

This right here is on point. We travel cross country as a family often pulling our trailer. I can make it to Savanah GA for Tampa with one tank of Fuel in my diesel titan pulling 10k lbs (this is an over 5 hour drive.) This would take at minimum 3 charges with a Rivian (if you can find a charger that you can reach with a trailer hooked up.) This would probably over double your drive time. This technology just isn't here yet for these purposes.

The EV trucks are just good for your daily drivers with shorter commutes (then you can use them for the occasional home depot truck duty.) My neighbors each have EV trucks, one Rivian and one F150. The Rivian seems to be nicer and more usable than the f150. Still, neither can hold a candle to my Titan for range and overall cost including maintenance when you factor in eventual battery replacement.

I would have loved a nice little tesla or another EV when I had to commute to work but I work from home now and it just doesn't make sense for our family to own one.

 

YEP, I've heard about tiny fender benders on Rivian's costing 40k plus because the battery pack was damaged.

 

The interior plastic is pretty bad for 8k miles, I wonder if the OO ever get it replace under warranty. My R1 has all plastic replaced by the dealer early in its life, so they all still look brand new today.

Have you seen the robotic battery swap station that gets it done in 5mins? It'll only get better and cheaper...

 

they did not, car has had the two recalls and that is it.

P0206051 was built 5/12/1992, which is pretty late in the production run. sold new at Pasadena Mazda on 7/22/1992.

 

Is the replacement under a recall or warranty? If it is a recall can you still get it swap out today?

 

Interesting if the R1 had all the recall work done. Might add to the originality of the car if it has factory original flaws still in place.

Did we see the paint code, btw?

( I see "PZ" on the label.)

 

the interior plastics were just under warranty

 

i guess, but at some point it wouldn't have been registerable in CA because they weren't done.

yep its PZ Brilliant black

 

Until recently, at least, you could still get the four pieces of the interior plastics (Gauge hood, gauge surround, HVAC panel and shift surround) NOS/NIB from the dealer. Those items out of the box seem to have a bit of a fuzzy-to-the-touch feel and I wonder if that is just aging in the box. We dared to use an interior protectant on one example without any apparent dilatorious affect.

I also tried the "Easy-off" hack on one example of a scratched up and gummy arm rest. It removed the coating to reveal unscratched clear flat black plastic underneath, (save for some stubborn residue)..

 

Bumper

All the plastic are still available new beside the driver side door trim.

 

What is the asking for the passenger door trim?

 

https://www.atkinsrotary.com/1993-rx...01-69-44xe-00-

 

< $400, these are LHD tho, I'm not sure about RHD.

 

'93 interior plastic restoration is very doable.....have done many and SEM black trim paint is a near perfect OEM match.

 

Close family friend is a manager of a local body shop, last year they had some type of plug in hybrid or full electric Hyundai in for a mild/moderate collision. Hyundai called for 2 extra open parking spaces on each side while it was on their lot in case of a fire, while waiting for a replacement $23,000 battery pack which was on extended backorder. EV's are a joke. The technology and costs and charging infrastructure may get there one day, but at the moment, all they have is a claim to neck breaking acceleration for buyers who are overwhelmingly not car enthusiasts, and likely don't have the driving skill to handle it, and a cheap, short commute under ideal weather conditions if/when full cost of ownership are recouped. Don't get me started on the clams of a lesser environmental impact.

 

Well said.......with current technology EV's are a joke......may change in next 25 years, time will tell.