Nah **** that. Nobody is ordering new engines at that price.

 

A friend just got back from a tour of the Hiroshima plant including the motor plant. He saw them putting together rotary engines of some sort. It was unclear if they were 13B or not.

 

He visited the Mazda Museum, which has some pretty slick displays, and dropped in on the RE-Amemiya shop and the Feed shop and got some candid shots with the owners.


787B Motor at Mazda Museum

Something being worked on at the Re-A shop.

 

doubtful, but there are a bunch of people that ordered at the old price and are going to receive at the new one

 

You can correct it, that YOU won't.

Trucks went from $35k before 2020, to $50k on average, and people are still buying them.

 

Ok. I will not. And a whole number of other people will also search for options.

We all knew the OEM kegs needed to be re-assembled before any serious use. Now that the parts are the same cost separately, I will use billet plates and have my own engine assembled instead. Why not? Cost will be very close.

 

Today local Mazda dealer in Vancouver said short blocks are NLA in his data base. Single rotors are C$1866. Housings are C$1988~2170. His data base shows very (very) limited supply within North America (i.e. Toronto and Los Angeles parts hubs).

 

Mazda USA never has much inventory of anything, and since they don't make it you can't use them as a yardstick for anything

 

we were next to some guys at the track a few years ago, and they used an F350 platinum to tow a 924 lemons car, which seems backwards to me
so monday i went on the ford website and built a truck like that; extra cab, dually, etc etc it was $83k!
to haul a beat up 924?

i see trucks like this all over and wonder where they are getting the money, and then why you'd buy that.

F450 Limited in white is $109k now! your FD is CHEAP

 

The problem is, everything went way up in cost. People who NEED a truck can't simply just do without, they have to absorb the extra cost and the larger payment. Sure there are those that just want a fancy, overpriced truck like the Platinum, but even the base models nearly doubled in their cost. Overall, there are things we can, and cannot live without. A project/fun car, or the engine for it is one thing. The means to provide food and shelter for your family via a work truck has basically doubled in the last three years. I bet we'll see more people dumping their luxury items as they come to grips with raging inflation and bad economic policies.

 

I need an AWD Cybertruck to tow my FDs around

 

ive seen a couple, it looks cool, but dude had a really hard time parking it.
i do actually really like it, pics don't do it justice

 

Get a Rivian if you're going that route

 

the Rivian is really nice

 

that’s exactly what I’m doing later this year!

 

They are great looking, real presence in person. And they have actual utility as a truck

 

Those are nice

 

I'm not too surprised about the motor and part prices. It's a low volume specialty vehicle, and we were probably enjoying lower-than-is-sustainable prices for a long time. I'd generally rather have readily available expensive parts than stuff NLA, or backordered for months because they need to wait to produce a whole bunch at a time.

I'd love to see it ramp up and/or even bring down the costs of aftermarket irons, rotors, and other billet bits. And I think it'll put a lot more pressure on builders and tuners to build right and not pop cars on the dyno, and probably sell more soft seals that don't lunch hard parts when they let go.

 

Exactly! I work at a Ford dealership and it is crazy how much people spend on diesels and never haul anything. You can even spend 100k on an expedition!

 

my neighbor works there (Rivian and Tesla are down the street from me), and he had the first one. its really nice, it looks good inside and out.
plenty of nice features (some seem extraneous, but maybe customers don't get everything)
it feels finished too, its a real truck.

 

My friend bought one, i drove it. It is nice, but I'm sorry, it is NOT a real truck.

Imagine taking your REAL truck out with the family pulling your travel trailer to the coast for a weekend of fun. Then imagine having to stop every 90 miles to charge it. But oh wait, there's no open charge stalls. Then, 20 mins later when someone finally leaves, you realize you can't pull your "truck" into the charging slot because they're not setup for having a trailer.

These EVs are for a very specific use case, but being a truck isn't one of them.

 

So True

 

If you need to go more than 300 miles often (400 range), then yeah sure it's not for you. But that just means it's out of your use case, same reason you don't do half ton dump runs with a geo metro.

It is designed to mount extra batteries in the bed, if he's towing, that's the solution. Otherwise, sure, get an ICE truck.

 

Yeah, but see the problem is the government is mandating no new ICE vehicles to be sold in 2035. So the use case i highlighted above hasn't been figured out, and they don't really even seem to care. If you commute reliably 30 miles every day and you live in a house which you can have a high output charger installed AND you can afford a new vehicle plus outfitting your house with the charging, then by all means EV might just be right for you. But so many other situations like the truck example highlights how EV is not a right fit for every situation.

Also, not sure what you mean by "mount extra batteries in the bed". So you're saying in order to get reasonable range beyond 100 miles (basically what the new lightning gets with towing a trailer) you need to fill your bed with batteries (is this even a thing), and then what? Charging now goes from 4 hours to 8 hours? Now your family pets can't come because the truck bed is filled with 2k lbs of extra batteries?

This all seems so ridiculous vs. just pulling into a fuel station and leaving 5 minutes later.

 

I mean that it's specifically designed to mount long range batteries in the bed of the truck.

Put your **** into the trailer you're towing.

Not towing, it's got a 400 mile range, that can charge to something like 80% in 20 minutes.

But sure, get an ICE car if that's your use case. Just saying, they actually thought about this a whole lot more than the cyber truck.