Window relay mod using 451m's!
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I have a question, though probably stupid.
You say you did them both in your driver door because you dont use the passenger switch. I get that.
So, if I do 1 in each door, just as you have described, all 3 switches (2 driver/1 passenger) will be protected? It just seems to me that if I did 1 in each door, then only 2 switches are protected...but I'm no electrician and wont pretend to be LoL.
I'm guessing by the reading that this basically is doing the same thing as the headlight relay mod....taking current away from the switch to prolong the life of the switch?
Thanks for the detailed write-up!
You say you did them both in your driver door because you dont use the passenger switch. I get that.
So, if I do 1 in each door, just as you have described, all 3 switches (2 driver/1 passenger) will be protected? It just seems to me that if I did 1 in each door, then only 2 switches are protected...but I'm no electrician and wont pretend to be LoL.
I'm guessing by the reading that this basically is doing the same thing as the headlight relay mod....taking current away from the switch to prolong the life of the switch?
Thanks for the detailed write-up!
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#32
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Holy crap that's cheap! I have to call DEI and see if my system is compatible with both. And if I can still use my phone to open/close the windows
Another note, if I have s5 switches and regulators will they work with s4 vehicle? Were there any dimensional/wiring changes or just styling on the switches themselves?
Another note, if I have s5 switches and regulators will they work with s4 vehicle? Were there any dimensional/wiring changes or just styling on the switches themselves?
#33
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Holy crap that's cheap! I have to call DEI and see if my system is compatible with both. And if I can still use my phone to open/close the windows
Another note, if I have s5 switches and regulators will they work with s4 vehicle? Were there any dimensional/wiring changes or just styling on the switches themselves?
Another note, if I have s5 switches and regulators will they work with s4 vehicle? Were there any dimensional/wiring changes or just styling on the switches themselves?
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This may seem like a dumb question but, since you're an installer and all, where and how do you mount the device? I mean, I have ideas but imagine you have found preferred places and ways. I was thinking of mounting it to the door panel. Double sticky foam tape? I think screws would be better but that may be problematic on the door panel.
#35
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Screw it to the metal inside the door in a spot where you can still put the door panel back on.If you look at the completed picture in my second post, you'll see where my 451m's ended up.
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but your switch can be fixed. and its common.
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if you need your headlight rebuilt you do it using aftermarket better relays that are the same STYLE as the OEM, these would not work for the headlight switch. unless you want to turn them on momentary and then them go back off.
but your switch can be fixed. and its common.
but your switch can be fixed. and its common.
I do agree though, you should just use standard SPDT relays for the headlight switch mod. If you did use a 451m you are just wasting a relay and some money.
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sure as ****, I posted in here, and a week back I lost the ability to use the driver switch to raise the passenger window. Still lowers it of course
I will be doing this while I have the door skins off soon. Passenger side door handle needs some attention any how.
I will be doing this while I have the door skins off soon. Passenger side door handle needs some attention any how.
#45
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Yes sir, you can use it without an alarm. You just leave the alarm connections disconnected and set the dip switches for 2 window mode and one touch operation.
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#49
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Finally got my 451ms. question, do i need 2 on the drivers side (one for the driver window up and down/one for the passenger window up and down) and just 1 on the passenger? sorry for being a N00B but i would prefer to get this done correctly and hopefully never take my door panel off again! haha. Also, i will be doing this is my girlfriends FC now that its up and running.
Let me add to this by saying the switch side has green/white and solid green. There is no green/black as you mentioned
Let me add to this by saying the switch side has green/white and solid green. There is no green/black as you mentioned
#50
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One 451m on the driver side and 1 for the passenger side. You are isolating the motors from the switches. The driver side switch controls both motors irrespective of the passenger switch. If you do the 451m mod (one in the driver door and the other in the passenger door) you have successfully isolated the 2 motors from the 3 switches.