ponykiller

I am with COYOTE-1 on this one. Doing anything to your car, according to you guys, is making it rice, which is so incredibly stupid! I have a beautiful '91 convertible RX7 that I chopped the cats on, because I wanted a little more sound and power from it, but it is definately not rice!

You fools need to stop having these discussions in this section. Go to the lounge and post this crap!




Kris

Mazdarules

Making an actual performance upgrade is not rice. Putting a T2 hood on an NA is because it adds no performance and makes people think it's a T2. Be proud of your NA and quit trying to be a turbo wannabe. It's the same thing as putting a "VTEC" sticker on a DX civic. IMO Rice is stickers and apprearence mods that make people think you have something you don't (An NA is NOT a T2 so quit pretending). I have an idea, why don't you buy one of those imitation bov's to go with the hood????

I've heard you guys say it's lighter, NO IT ISN"T, An ALUMINUM NA hood is LIGHTER than an ALUMINUM T2 hood. Please don't say that it lowers the engine temp because it DOESN'T, the hood scoop does not flow a lot, and it also probably raises the engine temp because of reduced airflow over the oil cooler and rad.

I don't think everything is rice, but if you can't see this one then get your head examined

for those that think I HATE on NA's you are wrong. I have owned two of them (neither with a T2 hood a might add) and I truly loved them, I don't have a T2.

Jeese, I make one drunk post about something that bothers me............

HuggyBear

i guess i better not put those cool seat covers i got on my seats now.... people might call me a ricer.....

i cant believe you people putting down someone who would want to improve the appearance of thier car... how bloody inconsiderate is that.... holy christ....

"im a poser.... i have a T2 hood on my N/A....."

geezus..... and comparing it to a vtech sticker?

man thats sad......

jeff_oner

Mazdarules

THIS POST REFLECTS MY PERSONAL OPINION, DO NOT TAKE OFFENCE.

Sorry huggy you are missing my point, I'm not saying that every appearence mod is rice, just mods that make people think the car is something it isn't, there is no difference between getting a T2 hood and getting a turbo sticker for your NA, If you think there is then please explain. Getting seats, wheels and other parts from a T2 is not rice IMO, because they provide the car with an upgrade (wider tires, more supportive seats) but absolutly nothing is gained from the hood. Don't use the weight or airflow argument until you actually read my previous post

I don't have a problem with aftermarket hoods, because they don't suggest a turbo where there is no ***** to back it up.

jeff_oner

there is a difference. if i got a TII hood for my na, i definatly wouldnt get it and say 'wow now my car looks like it has a turbo' instead i would say 'wow that scoop makes my car look pretty mean'

so to conclude, i buy hood for looks= i know i dont have a turbo nor do i want it to look that way, i just like the way the scoop looks.

or i could just go out and get a huge Type-R sticker to put accross my windsheild so i couldnt see my car from the inside and pretend im driving a honda civic dx.

darkangles

Why is it such a big deal to have a nice looking car. You all make it sound like it is a crime to put a better looking part from the same kind of car onto another one.

And all the rice talk....are you all in high school? I mean I guess I would understand if you are, but if there any adults on here then I am sure that they can see my point.

What if you just want a daily driver that looks nice, and don't want to worry about a turbo going bad? Then what....you can't have a nice looking RX 7? Everyone know that the scope on the turbo model is nice looking.

And what if it is a heavily modifed N/A?.....that can eat a stock T2 (and I am not saying that this will happen very much) but what then?

You all should help instead of worrying about this rice ****.

RarestRX

Yo,



Mazdarules gets it. Looks like y'all are having a hard time.

This is called an analogy, so work with me here:

Let's say Mazda made a sportscar called the Rhino, and it had a big horn coming out of the hood. It needed this horn because it had a pulley for the supercharger that needed clearance. The Rhino was the fastest model sportscar they made, it was feared and respected on the street.

Let's also say Mazda made the same sportscar, but without the supercharger. It was called the Tiger and it didn't have the horn coming out of the hood. It wasn't as fast, but still a great car.

So what happens when you put on the Rhino hood (with the big horn sticking out) onto your Tiger?

Gee, people see the horn sticking out of the hood and they're going to think it's a Rhino.

Guess what? You DON'T have a supercharger. You DON'T have a Rhino. Get it?

Switch Rhino to TII and Tiger to NA.

Like it or not, if you use a TII hood on your NA, you are consciously or unconsciouly trying to make people think you have a TII. This is Rice. You are pretending you are something you are not. I don't care if that's not your intent, that is what /I/ am going to think when you pull up in the parking lot.

Me: "Woah, nice TII."

You: "It's not a TII."

Me: "Huh?"

Get it? Why put a styling element on your car that defines a different model /that you don't own/?

I can't explain it any better. Either you "get it" or you don't. I own an NA, and I have much respect for the TII. Yeah, I razz 'em about the reliability thing, but they are the tip of the FC sword on the street. They punish V-8's, they embarrass FD's. They eat all the Rice out there. They've got their own style, and it should not be copied or bitten.

KS
1989 GTUs "I'm proud to be NA."

Dak

I will probably put a TII hood on my N/A after I do the turbo conversion.Oh wait!I won't be a N/A anymore then because I'll have a turbo so I guess that will make it alright huh.I think the TII hood looks bad ***.Hell it's so bad *** I'm going to do a turbo conversion on my N/A car just so I can put the TII hood on it and not be called rice.

Dak

The hood scoop has absolutely nothing to do with airflow through the radiator and oil cooler.So engine temps won't rise for that reason.I doubt there would be any change in engine temps.

Mazdarules

WTF is this? I don't agree with you so I must be in highschool? You can't see both sides of the argument, so you must be a redneck.

Thanks Rarest, these guys don't seem to get it at all. I had an NA and I was proud to be an NA Don't try to be a T2 because you aren't one, and your NA won't be one without serious open heart surgery. (and no I don't own a T2 and I'm not in highschool)

RX-7Impreza

Rice is not an aftermarket part with no performance value. that would include: shifter handles, body kits, paint jobs, and many other things. to us rice is the guys who throw things on their cars, either not knowing anything about cars or doing it just because it is the cool and popular thing to do. to american car owners it is anyone who owns a japanese car and/or our definition of rice. my best friend is ricing out his 97 mustang. doesnt mean it doesnt look nice, it just that i dont think too highly of flashing valve stem covers. if you put a t2 hood on your n/a to make people think it is a TII then you are a ricer, but if you do it because it is lighter and you couldnt find an n/a aluminum hood, then no it isnt rice

Justin

Vicious

You know what he can do whatever the F#@k he wants just do the freaking poll and leave the guy alone. yeah F#!K You too! Stop hating on people that are different i.e "rice" and just mind your god damn business!

SonicRaT

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BAH! We are all ricers, we all drive rice powered cars, live with the rice, be one with the rice, DEAL WITH THE DAMN RICE!

COYOTE-1

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mazdarules
[B]"THIS POST REFLECTS MY PERSONAL OPINION, DO NOT TAKE OFFENCE."

Just because you have an opinion does not mean you should always voice it...people will take offence to what you say...see IMO i now think your just an ***.... But that just my opinion...dont take offence

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yayarx7

So if I put a T2 scoop on my Fb will I be trying to fool people into thinking I have a second gen turbo model and be rice?

Or will I think it just looks good?

JoeZoom

iTrader: (1)

Ya know, I am beginning to think that the term "RICE" is being used for anything that does not conform to what some say is a "Stock" look.
I for one, do what I think looks nice to my car whether it is a domestic or import.
I am 37 years young and built my first engine at age 12 and have worked on cars ever since. I started out with Chevy's and the 69 Camaro is still my first love but I like a lot of other cars also and the RX7 holds the top spot for imports!
When I was a child, I bought a wankle engine toy kit and fell in love with the idea of a rotary engine from the first sight of it!
I am neither new nor green to the automotive field but I also learn something new each and every day. One thing I have learned is just because you put a cowl induction hood on a camaro or a TII hood on a RX7, THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT RICE!!!
I dare anyone to call a Yenko Camaro rice, yet this car was heavily modified after coming from the manufacturer by the dealer to make it into something it was not. It was done this way to make it stand out among the rest (it was already very fast from the manufacturer)

Enough of my ranting, I am going on outside to continue to clean up my GTU body, change my non-vented rotors to vented(rice), put my TII drive train into it(rice again), put on my 94 3rd gen rims and tires(again rice), re-upholster my seats in black leather(very rice) and finish up what will be a very nice...er "RICE" car!

SlithyTove

Come to think of it, aren't all TII hoods, even on Turbo IIs "rice"? After all, the car is pretending to be something its not, i.e. a car that needs an air intake on the hood. Hey, just cuz it's stock doesn't mean it can't be rice.

darkangles

I see both sides of the of it. I know what rice is. I was asking why you are all so bent out of shape about it. Not everyone wants to be a racecar driver, but most people do like having a nice looking car.

As a matter of fact I don't know why I am arguing with anoyone about this, I mean it's not YOUR car.

And as for the redneck thing....I could be black you know, and that is a ignorant statement anyway.

I am however, not black, but I am 23 yrs. old, and I didn't worry about this **** once I left high school.

Point being, if it is that important to you to not have a hood scope on a N/A, then leave it off. If you have the good fortune to have a T2 then you will be able to beat the N/A with the hood scope.....so why do you care?

Some people just need a BJ or something to releave all that tension.

HuggyBear

next time i see an rx-7 with a NON-STOCK paint job ill be sure the write RICE across his windshield with a crayon.......

thats how childish i think that attitude is.......

and for all you people who think your special and that you have the majority of opinion on this matter thinking turbo hoods on an n/a are rice....... i got 3 words for ya..... CHECK....THE.....POLL......

and stop trying to convince the rest of us who dont think so...... cause your just preaching for yourself..... we really dont care, some people like the look and thats cool by me....

and if you think its easier to find an n/a aluminum vs. a aluminum t2 hood.... B.S.......

RarestRX

Yo,


Funny how everyone jumps on Mazdarules but when I post a cognizant argument on why putting a TII hood on an NA is Rice, no one will lock horns with me.

Doesn't anyone want to try and disprove my premise?

Premise:

If you put a TII hood on your NA, people will think it is a TII.


Anyone?

KS
1989 GTUs "Guess who took Critical Thinking..."

PS: I like to debate. Of course you can do whatever you want to your car, this is America. But since this is America, I have the right to voice my opinion about your car. It's called Freedom of Speech. Deal.

HuggyBear

cognizant argument on why a car is rice????? ahhahaha

man thats funny......

try cognizant argument on how you can start **** up....

if you try to start trouble among rx-7 owners, your just makin trouble for yourself, cause you make your own reputation. if you want to sling **** all around you, then people are gonna see you surrounded by ****. nuff said.....

supergoat

Yea I'm sure people will think it's a Turbo if Ihad a turbo hood. But the thing is, people already think I have aturbo because I have dual exhaust. There are actually people who think only the Turbos came with dual exhaust.

Either way, I like the way the hoodscoop looks. Always have. I wouldn't call it rice unless the person with the hood tried to make people believe it's a TII. Rice has a lot more to do with the person than the car in my opinion.

photoresistor

iTrader: (5)

'Like it or not, if you use a TII hood on your NA, you are consciously or unconsciouly trying to make people think you have a TII. This is Rice. You are pretending you are something you are not. I don't care if that's not your intent, that is what /I/ am going to think when you pull up in the parking lot. '

That's where I disagree with you. People (who know a thing or two about 7's) would mistake it for a TII model. However, that doesn't mean that an NA owner by putting it on is trying to make people think you have a TII (insinuating that he is 'pretending' to be one). Certainly they would think it is a TII, but maybe (no way) the N/A owner merely likes the way the hood looks (not possible)?

'I don't care if that's not your intent, that is what /I/ am going to think when you pull up in the parking lot. '

Yeah, you said it there. Maybe the owner put the hood on b/c he likes the way it looks. You, or anyone else, would mistake it for a TII. Would it be confusing? Yes. Might it make a bad name for TII RX7's when someone races the NA 7 w/ the TII hood? Yeah, it could. Is it rice? I see that by changing hoods in which there wouldn't be any performance benefits would be rice. I guess that wasn't what I was arguing with at first... hmmmm... just don't think that N/A owners would put on a TII hood to 'pretend' (how gay is that) that they have a TII or making people think that's what he has. Maybe he just likes the way it looks... maybe...

On rice: I'm getting pretty sick of all these (not speaking to anyone in particular... just got on this topic and ranting...) rice purist people that think that any appearance mod or cosmetic change you make to your car to make it look better or cooler in your opinion is stupid, or that you're now a
ricer'. What the heck is wrong with wanting to make your car look better? eh? Sports cars aren't all performance, are they? Yeah, here, buy this car... it's ugly as HELL but it does the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds and gets a slalom speed of 100.4 miles per hour. I'm not saying I wouldn't mind to have a car like that, but whats one of the main reasons that you like the RX7? For me (and I'd assume a lot of people) it's because I love the way it looks (and that was how I first found out about it).

Well (surprise) many people don't think that the stock look is perfection. Tinted windows? rice. Cool looking rims? rice. vaccuming your car? rice. What did you have for dinner last night? rice.

...... basically, whats wrong with wanting your car to look cool? Is there anything wrong with that? Rice is just a non-performance mod, a cosmetic mod done to your car... it's nothing to be hated, disliked, or...something...loosing though.... crap... *reads* .......ramble....... ...rambling.....

Cars w/ 5 inch exhausts, an in-your-face paint job, neon lights, and stickers plasted over it... maybe those people like the way their car looks?

I don't know....