blu_gxl

1989 GTUs "Be proud of your car, don't bite other's style."


dude check your sig! i mean come on why put this in your sig and then start a big battle total to the contrary!

RX-7Impreza

do you care what people think about your car???, i dont.

if you have a sleeper, people with think it is slow, does that mean it is??? no. if you put a TII hood on your car people might think you have a TII, does it mean that you do, no? they also might think you are TRYING to make it look like a TII, does that mean you are???? no

Justin

RX-7Impreza

maybe so, but it isnt lighter than a steel na hood is it?????

Justin

BlackSport0187

Let's see here, I had the chance to buy a beat up Turbo II, or an amazingly clean NA. For daily driving, and overall prior treatment of the car I would pick an NA any day of the week. "Oooh I have a turbo look at me", well if your car is in bad shape I could care less if you are turbo or not. Putting a Turbo II hood on an NA does not mean the person is trying to be a Turbo II. If that were true they would put on the Turbo II decals as well. People ask me all the time if my car is turbo, and I don't even have my Turbo II hood on yet! The only people that will notice are fellow RX-7 owners and a few other well-informed human beings.

Yeah you're right an aluminum NA hood is lighter than an aluminum Turbo II hood. Let's see a show of hands as to how many people have an aluminum hood on their NA. Yeah, there aren't many. So would you prefer a steel NA hood over a turbo aluminum one? What does weight matter? WEIGHT IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

You're probably right about not much air flowing into the scoop. How about hot air (directly over the engine mind you) escaping? At idle or after a hard run, any place for heat to leave the engine bay will serve to lower the temperature.

Anyone who is "rice" probably doesn't own an RX-7. The rotary engine is too complicated a beast for them to handle, they most likey would go with a Honda.

Don't hate on the NA guys with the turbo hoods. If it wasn't for us, there would be no turbo RX-7.
Ike

Mazdarules

Blacksport:
Good post man, I understand where you are coming from, that's probably true about the faster cool-down time. I don't know why some people have a hard time finding an aluminum hood, I thought that it was about half and half aluminum and steel production, as i said before my two sevens both had aluminum NA hoods (non-magnetic and super light, I know they were aluminum I checked).
I still think that it's direspectful for T2 owners.

Kahren

iTrader: (13)

if its functional its not rice

RarestRX

Yo,


I've tried to explain it as clearly as possible, Mazdarules has done an admirable job of trying to as well. Like I've said, you either "get" why a TII hood on an NA is Rice or you don't.

I have yet to see any kind of valid counter-argument to my premise that having a TII hood on your NA cause people to think you have TII.

My other question is directed at the folks who actually have put TII hoods on their NA's:

Do you still have your model stickers on your fenders?

Does it say GTU, or GXL or SE? Or is it blank?

Now THAT is the real question.

KS
1989 GTUs "Still having fun, still debating...still not flaming anyone."

supergoat

I would most definitly keep the GXL decals on my car if I got a TII hood. Actually, I need to get some more anyway I forgot to after getting it painted.

I have always wanted a TII hood. I like the look and despite what people think, even on an N/A it CAN be functional. Like stated above at idle and after hard runs it will let heat escape. I'm sure even when driving it may aid in that a little as well but probably not much. I have been contemplating getting heat vents cut into my hood for that very reason, but if I can find a good TII hood I'd rather do that. Sure, actual vents will help more since they would be cut right, but like I said before; I like the look of the TII hood.

Rarest, there isn't a counter for your statement because it's a very true statement. People WOULD probably think my car is a TII IF I had a TII hood. But it's whether I care what they think that matters.

What do you think of people putting the lighter TII rims on a N/A?

SirRX7

Someone made a good point. If you own an 87 T2 and exchange your rear lights for the 98+ lights are you a ricer?? If you repaint your car and go ahead and paint the side mouldings are you rice? An even better questions is Who gives a ****??? When the day comes that you pay for anything that goes on my car I'll let you pick what is used, until then I'll do whatever my little heart desires. If that means using a T2 hood so be it. I drive an NA, I personally wouldn't use a T2 hood unless I came across an aluminum one for a good price. Thats my preference. Nothing anyone says is gonna sway that. I'm not on this earth to make you happy and couldn't care less if you "respect" me or my car. If you have a problem with what I'm driving, lick a nut and keep walking.

DroptopRX7

iTrader: (12)

I second that last reply from SirRX7!.
I have a convertible, never had stickers, never will. I have an aluminum TII hood. I like it. I had an N/A aluminum hood. The TII hood looks better which is a reflection on TII cars...in my opinion!
Why would I want to present an argument to "RarestRX" to convince him others don't think I have a TII? He's biased already and can't be swayed. Besides, I get paid to argue and there's no money in it here. Sorry. The simple fact is, I like it and you didn't pay for it. No disrespect intended, just the bald truth as stated. Who cares if people think I have a TII? I don't bother racing ricers anyway. Why lower myself? (figuratively speaking )
Ralf

BlackSport0187

If you drive any vehicle powered by a rotary engine you have my upmost respect. It's not easy finding someone to work on your car, the gas mileage sucks, and a million others things about the engines can best be described as "quirks". It takes a person with a great taste in automobiles to choose a rotary rocket when so many others are going the easy (Honda/Acura) route. If you have a Turbo II or an NA, we are all in this together. After all we are few and far between.

Ike

MaxRX7

simple, a TII hood on a N/A is rice if it is a N/A.
rice is just for looks.

I don't want to hear that **** about saving weight is performance non-sense.


Who wants to start a groupdeal on fake BOVs ?

MaxRX7

I'll like to add, why not just buy an aftermarket hood, if you are in it for the looks ?

the Turbo hood isn't the nicest looking thing you know.

BlackSport0187

Yeah you're right, weight is not important. Who cares what your car weighs anyway, as long as it's fast. You might as well throw a bunch of bricks in your hatch area, that won't slow you down. Isn't that what they do in NASCAR? I don't understand why the designers of the third generation RX-7 were so concerned with weight. They should have just loaded the car with all the possible gadgets they could, then it would be like the VR4!

nice argument dude, lol.
Ike

BlackSport0187

Because the Turbo II hood is cheaper, probably lighter, and guess what? It is guranteed to fit, imagine that!

Ike

MaxRX7

DroptopRX7

iTrader: (12)

Rice, shmice!
To some, ANY Japanese car by definition is rice. Some think if its done for looks, spoilers, new bumpers, etc, its rice.
Its an opinion and last time I checked we were still allowed to have them. I respect other's opinions, I just don't agree. I like the TII hood. I like the RX7 rotary cars! I also have 2 4x4 GMC's and those 4x4 guys think we're anti-american. Its all relative.
Luckily the opinion police won't be coming after me for thinking what I thunk about that!

Dak

What if the n/a it is on has a 50hp or 75hp shot of nitrous.Would it still be rice then since it should be faster than a stock or maybe lightly modded TII.
Anyway what is the big deal.The TII hood looks nice and if someone wants to put it on there n/a so be it.The only reason I don't have one is because I don't want to lose a race and that person go spouting they beat a TII.If it wasn't for that I'd have one.I'll just wait till I do my turbo conversion.
Oh if a TII owner has a FMIC and puts a N/A hood on does that make it rice since it now looks like something it is not?

RX-7Impreza

i thought my argument was completely valid. whatever your definition of rice is, it doesnt matter what anyone thinks of your car. if i have a chevy 350 in my car, if i dont write it on the side, then all the american car guys are just gonna blow me off as a ricer, but that is all american power isnt it???

you cant tell me that my car is rice just because it has a TII hood, because you dont know why it is on there in the first place.

WHEN YOU COME UP AND ASK ME WHY IT IS ON THERE AND I SAY "cuz it makes it look like a TII." then you can say my car is rice.

until that day comes you can shut your trap and stop generalizing.

next thing i know you are gonna tell me that every person who owns a honda with a body kit is a ricer. you cant just throw everyone into the same bag just because you like to think you are a bad ***

so get over yourself

Justin

RarestRX

Yo,


Here's a cut and paste from the other thread:

I still can't get over that people have a hard time figuring this out.

I just explained this whole stupid argument to a coworker. He drives a Z28 and he said...

Him: "Huh, that's like putting an SS hood on a regular Z28. That's weak."

Me: "Exactly."

He grasped the whole thing in about...3 seconds.

It's really not that tough.

KS
1989 GTUs "Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics: Even if you win, you're still retarded."

AcmeSkater

Heres something to grasp WE DON'T CARE!!!!! an SS hood on a Z28 is a good idea, im thinking this guy would not put a cowl hood or a hood w/ and areo scoop on his car just because its not factory, it brings in cold air (isn't that why its on the car in the first place??). I know people that have beaten a TII w/ light mods in a 18s CRX.... and beating a N/A would be any different?? The fact that my car won't wistle has a lot to do with it... no wistle probably no turbo, most rice guys think this way. This is a really stupid thread. who care what others think all anyone cares is what the judges think and what the numbers are.

BlackSport0187

Hey nice comeback! This goes to show all you other guys that MaxRX7 has no argument. He is just now realizing that.

Flame on MaxRX7, then maybe it will draw attention away from all those "smart" comments you made earlier in this thread.

Ike

Merovign

#1: Who cares what people do to their cars.

#2: The question, paraphrased, was "do NAs w/ Turbo Hoods Look Dorky." It's an opinion.

#3: It's funny when people who are clearly physiologically incapable of calming down are screaming at other people to "get over it."

For the record, I think the hood scoop looks dorky on both TII's and NAs. But it's your car, dude.

MaxRX7

I just don't want to waste my time arguing with you, case closed *******.

BlackSport0187

You don't want to waste your time because you have no case to present. I think I struck a nerve, lol.

No need to get pissy, just because you are angry at yourself for being so dang "smart".