drakeco

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has this been done on a rotary...it look pretty promissing..
http://ststurbo.com/home

staticguitar313

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. . . please search . . .

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ight=sts+turbo

sts = FAIL

drakeco

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soorry guy..thread close

Captain Jean-Luc Picard

STS doesnt make a lot of sense for a platform that had some turbocharged models available...but STS /= fail in domestic applications where the engines offered are naturally aspirated only. IT's an easy bolt on (a day or 2 for most people) that can net an extra 100-200rwhp depending on application and kit. I wouldnt call that fail.

AnarchyFC

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STS does great proven setups for domestics, STS def does not fail

WadeMCarter

did you just do a cliffnote of Picard's post?


YUP!

NZConvertible

Utterly pointless in an FC. Would it be better than a stock-type turbo set-up? Of course not.

w0ppe

This just seems ridiculous. If you want to remote mount it, why not just stick it through the hood? You get fast flowing air and more air to cool your turbo? It may look unusual and I doubt much more gains than usual setup....
If you find any adds (with the exception of a BOV) that says "Amazing Turbo Sound", I suggest to stray away from it.

jackhild59

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All of the reasons this won't work on a rotary are the very same reasons this would not work of other domestics.

Someone will do a version of this on a rotary someday and we will find out for sure.

Any takers?

rotarygod

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It's already been done on a Renesis. It works fine. I love seeing people criticize remote mounting without actually knowing anything about it. It makes me laugh. Yes there are drawbacks to it but then again that's true with anything.

jackhild59

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Interesting.

Do you have a link to info on this remote mount renesis?

rotarygod

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Go to the 8 forum. Look up a guy named rotorocks.

Edit: I found the current thread. It doesn't have a whole lot of info until about page 5 or so and even then only in what he's using and not actually any pictures of it installed. This is actually his second version. The first one he just pieced together. He has posted driving impressions elsewhere on the site though. I need to dig to see if I can find his first thread. He's just doing this on his own so he is improving as he is learning. He's pretty happy with it. While this thread doesn't tell much, at least it gives you an idea of where to start searching.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=126645

NZConvertible

So can you suggest any reasonable advantages this set-up would have on a 13B-powered FC? My question was would it be any better than a stock-type turbo set-up? Would all the turbo selection guesswork and custom fabrication be justified compared to one of the many proven ways to mount a turbo in the engine bay? Or would it just be different for the sake of being different?

rotarygod

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I'm not going to make a judgement call as to which is easier on an FC. That is something that only the owner of a car can make on their own. What I am saying is just because a turbo is remote mounted doesn't mean it can't work good. It does and has been proven to many times over. Does this make it superior to conventional mounting? Not at all. I definitely wouldn't suggest mounting a turbo down the street just because it's remote though!

If the stock POS restrictive TII turbo can be made to give decent power even though there is practically nothing designed well about it, I don't see how remote mounting with a good turbo can be bad. A turbo can make up for tons of design flaws. Is remote mounting superior? Not necessarily. Time efficient? Not necessarily. Cheap? Not necessarily. Easy to do? Not necessarily. These are things that the end user needs to decide for themselves.

You need to remember that just because you personally don't like it and wouldn't do it doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't. I know you wouldn't use a roots supercharger on a rotary but others have an like it. The single biggest flaw of this forum in general is the attitude that if you don't do it my way, you're an idiot and the justification to that is the response that it's not done that way because it doesn't work. I agree that this is true in many aspects but not all of them. Would I personally use remote mounting on an FC? Nope. I do understand that it can work and that someone somewhere can probably justify it and can probably make it work good. In the case of the RX-8 install, it is easy to do. You have a large single muffler back there with tons of space. It makes sense on that car. This isn't true with all though and that should already be understood. It does show that it can be made to work on a rotary though and that's the only thing that matters as the original question in this thread was "has this been done on a rotary?". Yes it has. Whether or not it can be justified for any particular application is up to the vehicle owner.

NZConvertible

I didn't say easier, I said better. As in, are there enough advantages to justify the extra work?

Yeah, but why do it just for a system that works "good". A turbo in a conventional location works "good", so unless you can make it work better at the *** end of the car, why do it? We all know it's going to require extra work and cost to do it properly, so there's got to be something to justify that. Otherwise it's not a performance or engineering exercise, it's just doing it for **** value.

Are you saying that in the context of modern turbos or turbos designed in the early 80's? It would be unfair to call something badly designed when it's really just old, superseded technology that did an excellent job in its day.

I think that's a bit over-generalised. I'm sure for every person that says that, there's another person putting forward a genuinely idiotic idea.

It makes sense because there's a lot more space at the back than there is up the front, but that's not the case for an FC.

Since this is the FC section, and the OP has an FC, it's a logical assumption that the question is being asked in the context of FC's, rather than all rotaries. I can't see how engine type makes that much difference. It should work just as well on a rotary as a similarly-sized piston engine. It's the car that determines the merits of this set-up, not the engine type.