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Old 11-02-12, 07:12 AM
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So basically, what you guys would like for a neighbor is this guy:

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Who happens to have a bunch of tools, a lift and a burning desire to love on your car.
You'd wander over, share a freshbaked cookie and next you know, he's rebuilding your calipers because "that's how neighbors do".
I'd like that too.
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If Mr. Rogers wandered over to my house and fixed my car, my manhood would divorce me. Although it would be funny as hell to watch a guy work on an fc in slacks and a sweater haha
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Originally Posted by clokker
So basically, what you guys would like for a neighbor is this guy:

Who happens to have a bunch of tools, a lift and a burning desire to love on your car.
You'd wander over, share a freshbaked cookie and next you know, he's rebuilding your calipers because "that's how neighbors do".
I'd like that too.
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Originally Posted by clokker
So basically, what you guys would like for a neighbor is this guy:


How did you get my picture? did you hack my FB account? I'm gonna cry to the moderators...

BTW, I *like* cardigans.
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Originally Posted by 198713bt
Although it would be funny as hell to watch a guy work on an fc in slacks and a sweater haha
Being stylish and comfortable does not preclude being active and competent.

I once met a pair of British panelbeaters who had worked for Rolls-Royce making radiators (reputedly the most labor intensive body component on the car).
Now retired, they set up trips to the US, hiring out to specialist shops for very high end bodywork on old British iron.
They showed up dressed like bankers...full three piece suits, ties, the whole show (probably even had pocketwatches/chains although I don't specifically remember, so we'll say they did).
They shed their coats, rolled up their sleeves and donned canvas like aprons and then proceeded to totally make over the aluminum panels on a Healey. All hammer/dolly and lead, no modern shortcuts.
Most striking was the apparent ease and languor of the process.
The two didn't seem to break a sweat or expend much energy but major **** was getting done, beautifully.

They would have considered a cardigan a bit relaxed and not at all proper.

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Last year I saw a killer cardigan at my favorite "surplus" store, I sure regret passing it up. Given a second chance, I'll not hesitate.
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LIM all cleaned and painted (gloss).
Port actuators cleaned and painted (satin).

I removed the studs from all the manifold flanges and sanded them flat, then ran a tap through the threaded holes. Manifolds all ready for assembly, just await some seals/gaskets.

I was extremely pleased to see how the brake booster vacuum feed is arranged.
That banjo bolt/tube piece is perfect and can be repositioned to allow for the hidden run of the vac line.
If you'll recall, the booster vac was the final hose that used to run across the upper firewall, something I'm trying to eliminate. Looks like the job just became easier.
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sure, but a drip of oil on the ground consisted of a major overhaul of the engine on those cars.. lol. it's a bit different working on a car that starts out spotless versus having to pressure wash it before even seeing the nuts and bolts.

i'm sure they had a surcharge for those dirty jobs.

on my own personal car i wipe the undercarriage down when i am under the car, doing oil changes or other work. i hate a filthy car.

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sure, but a drip of oil on the ground consisted of a major overhaul of the engine on those cars.. lol.
Not quite true.
Lack of dripping oil usually meant you were out of oil.

The British used engine lubrication in a variety of ways:
-Oil sometimes visited bearings and the like, usually just to say hello.

-A certain amount of lube was destined to burn, having leaked past the rings and valve stem seals. These leaks indicated that your engine "wasn't too tight" and considered to be a good thing. The British invented the concept of "relaxed fit", successfully coopted by the clothing industry.

-Quite a bit of oil was allowed to escape the engine, coating the undercarriage behind and thus rust proofing the chassis. The British have a much different approach to fluid containment/exclusion...they ignore it. After all, this is a country that insists on making convertibles but refuses to make them watertight.
Gaskets and seals were treated as unnecessary restrictions on the freedom of the oil to do as it pleased, a very libertarian viewpoint.

The "extra" oil that the engine didn't need was eventually deposited on the macadam roads and did a dandy job maintaining the surface. One knew that every quart of oil poured into the engine was also helping maintain the infrastructure, a "pay it forward" attitude that's very green.

Ben, you simply cannot deal with British machinery without first grasping the basic cultural differences.
And of course, you'll need some Whitworth tools.
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Originally Posted by clokker
Not quite true.
Lack of dripping oil usually meant you were out of oil.

The British used engine lubrication in a variety of ways:
-Oil sometimes visited bearings and the like, usually just to say hello.

-A certain amount of lube was destined to burn, having leaked past the rings and valve stem seals. These leaks indicated that your engine "wasn't too tight" and considered to be a good thing. The British invented the concept of "relaxed fit", successfully coopted by the clothing industry.

-Quite a bit of oil was allowed to escape the engine, coating the undercarriage behind and thus rust proofing the chassis. The British have a much different approach to fluid containment/exclusion...they ignore it. After all, this is a country that insists on making convertibles but refuses to make them watertight.
Gaskets and seals were treated as unnecessary restrictions on the freedom of the oil to do as it pleased, a very libertarian viewpoint.

The "extra" oil that the engine didn't need was eventually deposited on the macadam roads and did a dandy job maintaining the surface. One knew that every quart of oil poured into the engine was also helping maintain the infrastructure, a "pay it forward" attitude that's very green.

Ben, you simply cannot deal with British machinery without first grasping the basic cultural differences.
And of course, you'll need some Whitworth tools.
Rofl
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Great build thread man! Keep up the good work!
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You better have gotten something done today man it was beautiful outside!
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I'm trying out some new recipes for the upcoming baking season. Today was a ginger/apricot panettone, tomorrow will be cloverleaf rolls.
Never made panettone before, the flavor was fine but I need to adjust for the altitude a bit to get the crumb right.
The rolls are easy but I want to practice the construction once before Thanksgiving.

Oh, did you mean work on the car?
Nope, not a lick.
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Originally Posted by clokker
Not quite true.
Lack of dripping oil usually meant you were out of oil.

The British used engine lubrication in a variety of ways:
-Oil sometimes visited bearings and the like, usually just to say hello.

-A certain amount of lube was destined to burn, having leaked past the rings and valve stem seals. These leaks indicated that your engine "wasn't too tight" and considered to be a good thing. The British invented the concept of "relaxed fit", successfully coopted by the clothing industry.

-Quite a bit of oil was allowed to escape the engine, coating the undercarriage behind and thus rust proofing the chassis. The British have a much different approach to fluid containment/exclusion...they ignore it. After all, this is a country that insists on making convertibles but refuses to make them watertight.
Gaskets and seals were treated as unnecessary restrictions on the freedom of the oil to do as it pleased, a very libertarian viewpoint.

The "extra" oil that the engine didn't need was eventually deposited on the macadam roads and did a dandy job maintaining the surface. One knew that every quart of oil poured into the engine was also helping maintain the infrastructure, a "pay it forward" attitude that's very green.

Ben, you simply cannot deal with British machinery without first grasping the basic cultural differences.
And of course, you'll need some Whitworth tools.
I have a family friend (deceased) who worked with the War Department in WWII. He was an Mechanical Engineer who worked to (among other things) develop jet propulsion working with the Brits. He worked with Ramjet theory, invented the afterburner and some of the patents bear his name. He once told me that the British had 'a very different understanding of the concept of a seal'.
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He once told me that the British had 'a very different understanding of the concept of a seal'.
Just so.
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Between baking and football I had only a bit of time for the car today but I did make some progress on the intake(s).
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All the flanges have been sanded, studs replaced and hardware sorted.

Tested the BAC, it clicked with voltage, so I'm calling it good.
Removed and tested the thermowax, it extends when hot and contracts when cold...I can relate. so again, good.
The VDI valve spins freely.
Transferred the TPS from the old modified throttle body to the GTU's unmolested part.

I need a bunch of gaskets and seals to complete this but the intakes are basically ready to go.
Next I guess I'll look at the vacuum spider and see what I can do.
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looks like the parts i am doing for the gf's engine, which is red and black. at this point it had more dust than paint so i had to clean it off since it's about time to actually do something with it.
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When I tell people I'm still working on the intake, most probably wonder what the hell is taking so long.
Only a fellow rotard can appreciate what a NA intake actually is...the biggest thing in the engine bay (almost). Seriously, it's is a monster and I'm pleased to be finally done:
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Some seals and gaskets and it's ready for install.

I wonder what this beast weighs...
Old 11-05-12, 03:34 PM
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ooo i love the black
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looks great! i vote its 12-15lbs of "stuff"
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
l i vote its 12-15lbs of "stuff"
Nope.
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the full intake weighs closer to 25lbs i bet.
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26lbs, Bob!
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No, nope and uh-uh.

As it sits in the pics, the intake weighs 33.9 lbs.
Add another pound or so for gaskets, actuating rods, injectors, etc. and it's a nice even 35 lbs.

That's why I've decided to move the entire intake setup into the spare tire well...better weight distribution.
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35 lbs.

That's why i've decided to move the entire intake setup into the spare tire well...better weight distribution.
Brilliant!
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I've already ordered 400' of vacuum hose and renamed the spider "vacuum anaconda".

Gonna be bitchin.


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