FC3S driver

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so I just got back in the rx7 seen, I picked up a super low mile 89 turbo, all stock. I already have some aftermarket goodies that I want throw at it but am taking care of regular maintance first. one thing that really bothers me is how cluttered the engine bay is. my old turbo & was basically gutted in the engine bay, no power steering, no ac, no abs, no emissions. it was so easy to work on, and now working on this new one is such a bitch because there is crap every where. I am going to be gutting this one also but not so extreme. going to leave the abs and power steering and maybe even the AC (for the wife) but depends on what I end up doing with the power steering. I have wondered if there was a way to move the PS pump so maybe it sits lower and out of the way. I came across this picture in another thread
http://robx-7.nopistons.com/d/2367-1/eng%20004.jpg

searching I found this is a fd pump, but for what AC? or PS? is it a direct mount up or does one need to make special brackets?

clokker

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I don't see a fluid reservoir so I think that's AC.

misterstyx69

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That is an AC Only setup with a manual rack.

Now,if you look into Toyota MR2 Conversion you may find it interesting.
No Pulleys as it is an electric pump.You use the stock rack.

FC3S driver

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would have any more info on that conversion? like links to threads?

misterstyx69

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https://www.rx7club.com/fabrication-...ersion-847818/

eage8

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Or you can modify the bracket on the p/s like this:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-archive-72/how-power-steering-relocation-967933/

I did that on mine, I worked pretty well, but you can't keep the ac

Aaron Cake

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With the MR2 conversion, you need an upgraded alternator.

But how often are you working on the car so that stuff is in the way?! The A/C and PS pumps only really block the spark plugs.

misterstyx69

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I will be doing the MR2 pump conversion soon as I lost my Pulley placement when I put on the FFE Trigger setup.
The bracket uses the power steering stud/holes and the trigger wheel uses the front main pulley area.

RotaryResurrection

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For a street driven FC I am a firm believer that it is not worthwhile to remove functional a/c and p/s systems just to "make the car easier to work on". IF you truly think that an FC engine bay is "cramped" then you'll never want to work on an FD or rx8.

FC3S driver

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thanks for links, something to think about. I did take a long look at p/s pump today and how it is mounted to the bracket. I don't think it would be that hard to make a new bracket to lower down like the other gentleman kinda did. that might be the way to go as the eps system lloks like it would cost alittle more.


as far as cramped engine bays, I once owned a 2004 audi s4. now that was a cramped engine bay. a car built for a 4cyl with a v8 shoe horned into it. to do any real maintance you had to pull the engine or be some kind of magic man with tiny little hands and long fingers.

I don't feel the rx7 is a cramped engine bay, more just a cluttered one. plus I want to run a v-mount and the power steering is right in the way of were the ideal route for the piping would go.

misterstyx69

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On a previous system,I lowered by PS by about 4 inches using some of the stock holes that the Bracket had.(to clear some IC pipes)
If you look closely at that bracket you can fit one of the holes onto of the lower big studs on the engine and then just mark the bracket,drill and space and rearrange the hoses and you are done.
The Bracket DID have a location for an A/C compressor,but I took a grinder and cut off any excess.
there is a Thread on a similar modification like this..somewhere.

SpikeDerailed

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If you can find one the first gen GSL-SE p/s and a/c bracket has the units reversed(p/s on bottom). It take a little work to make the pump clear but heres mine on a 2 line pump(n/a 91).

Aaron Cake

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The GSL-SE bracket is cast iron, isn't it? Compared to the FC aluminum bracket.

RotaryEvolution

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and of course that eliminates A/C.

eventually you start to miss all that ****. ask yourself if it's worth losing all those benefits for the occasionally easier to work on car? how often do you really turn a wrench under the hood? if i had a stock turbo/intercooler still i would have put the A/C back in long ago and even contemplated turning my manual steering(factory) into power.

yep, it's nice being able to reach the plugs without cutting my arms up.. but how often do i have to do that? not very.

eage8

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I cut and lowered my stock aluminum power steering bracket and put it where the AC was:







but again... this is a race car. AC is really nice to have....

SpikeDerailed

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Correct. I had previously dont what eage8 has shown, but it ended up breaking one of the studs nearly flush. I went to the gsl-se one because it uses all the studs. Its heavy for sure, but not worrying about it is nice(to me).

a/c is amazing to have in the south east, i plan to keep it in the tii.

reddozen

I'm personally going to use the MR2 Spider (MRS) Power steering pump. I think it's the same pinout as the 2nd gen MR2 one, but the reservoir is built into the unit. much more convenient that way.

misterstyx69

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Ya,I found that out AFTER I bought the SW20 pump...fudge..

reddozen

yea, the guide on here should be updated to recommend the MRS pump instead...

misterstyx69

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hmm..maybe YOU should put up a HOW-TO on this..(ahem.I'll subscribe!)

You do that,I WILL get it Put into the Archives!

reddozen

If I wasn't too broke with other projects... My FC hasn't run in close to 10 years. Sad days.....

misterstyx69

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I don't want to sway the OP away for the topic so I'll quickly state that I know how you feel..lol.
I just "voluntarily" put my car up..to change a gauge setup and ..ARGHH!..2 days of spaghetti!..AND not done..and gonna rain..Yay!

I'm not getting younger either!

Hence the Power steering install..lol...(back on topic again!..smart huh?)