okay car fired up for that brief second you were talking about, trying again with the starter fluid

 

when i plug in the pump it wont start up

 

You might want to verify that the pump is actually working. Try disconnecting the feed line to the fuel filter and place the fuel hose into a jug and turn the engine over to see if the fuel pours out of the hose.

Also, when trying to get a difficult acting car to fire up it requires pumping the pedal repeatedly with key to start and every once in a while the engine will sound as if it is catching and then the sound is not as appetizing and then it sounds good again and usually over time the good sound lasts longer and if you are persistent it will eventually catch enough to fire up.

 

now the battery doesnt have enough power to start, im gonna get a jump tomorrow morning and see what happens

 

okay tomorrow i will try the fuel pump thing after the battery gets charged, thanks a bunch satch you have been a huge help here. because of you the car actually showed signs of life.

 

Oh, so now this all makes sense. You did a terrible job at describing what happened If you say that the rpms shot through the roof, we're going to think that the actual engine rpms climbed uncontrollably. If you say that the tach jumped up to around 6k, but the engine didn't actually rev that high, then nobody's going to think it's a driveline issue.

Now, did you, or did you not do as I've been saying and check for spark, then check for fuel. I've said it 3 times now, so hopefully you've done it by now. If you follow what we're saying here, you can possibly get the damn thing running for work on sunday like you've already stated. If you keep fooling around and do stuff like pull the fuel pump sock off, you'll never get anywhere. It's obviously not going to be a fuel issue if the tach jumped up and the car shut off. The tach isn't run by fuel, it gets its signal from the ignition coils. Anyways, that's not the fuel filter, it's the pre-strainer, which case I've RARELY seen one get clogged.

Keep in mind that the engine can run off starting fluid momentarily without fuel or spark, just think of how diesels work. They don't have spark plugs, just fuel and compression. Starting fluid is extremely volatile, and I really don't recommend using it... ever. I'm not saying it's not a fuel problem, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound logical, knowing what happened to you.

 

so then how do i check for spark? also when the car did start up after the starter fluid the tach rose with the rpms

 

bump , can anyone tell me how to check the spark?

 

Go to the leading coil and remove one of the plug boots and place the boot back onto the bore except leave a gap of about an eighth of an inch and then try to start the engine and observe for spark.

 

I flooded mine BAD once when I started the car for like 10 secs, moved it and shut it off without letting it run through its little cold start process or w/e, it sounded a LOT like that

to finally get mine started I 'jumpered' it to a running vehicle and basically kept cranking it in approximately 3-5 second bursts with the throttle pedal held down continuously (don't let the throttle up between cranks or it will try to throw more gas in the engine when you crank again doesn't make sense to me but it worked and it's what my grandpa told me to do haha)

it took 5 minutes or so of playing around with it like that to finally get it started again and I don't recommend doing it in your garage, I did and it was filled with smoke for half the day haha

GL and hopefully it is just severe flooding

edit: I missed that there was a second page started so this might not be helpful if you've already discovered it's a fuel starving issue

 

okay so i tried the jump start, same deal, with the fuel pump unpluged the car would start up briefly and with the fuel pump plugged in the car would not start. Im going to test the spark now

 

update, i tested the spark. I have spark coming from the coil packs through the cables. so what now?

 

can someone help? i'm running out of time

 

bump, any help?

 

So the car started briefly w/o the fuel pump and w/o starter fluid?

 

yeah it did.

 

this is just a long shot but could it be the cat?

 

I know a clogged cat can cause the engine to bog down and have its power restricted but not sure it would prevent the car from starting. Have you verified if the fuel pump is providing fuel?

 

gonna do that next, i have the car jacked up now

 

If you had a fuel pressure gauge it would be best but just seeing if fuel comes out of the hose as it spills into a jug is better than nothing. You can turn the key to "on" and jumper the fuel check connector "after" the hose is placed into the jug and observe for fuel.

 

unfortunately i dont have a gauge but what do you mean by jumper it?

 

The plug has two wires, one is Brown and the other is Black. Take a single wire bare at both ends and shape the wire into the letter U and place each end of the jumper wire into the plug such that you are bridging the two wires in the plug.

 

i dont see those wires, where are they located maybe im looking in the wrong place

 

There's a harness that supplies the wires to the Pressure/Boost sensor. It should be on that harness right near the passenger fender/strut. The plug will have a rubber protective boot and the plug might be colored yellow.

 

okay i found it, also im having an extremely difficult time removing the feeder hose, i removed the clamp, but is there an easy way to remove difficult hoses?