I need help, car wont start
10-15-10, 08:03 PM
#28
You might want to verify that the pump is actually working. Try disconnecting the feed line to the fuel filter and place the fuel hose into a jug and turn the engine over to see if the fuel pours out of the hose.
Also, when trying to get a difficult acting car to fire up it requires pumping the pedal repeatedly with key to start and every once in a while the engine will sound as if it is catching and then the sound is not as appetizing and then it sounds good again and usually over time the good sound lasts longer and if you are persistent it will eventually catch enough to fire up.
Also, when trying to get a difficult acting car to fire up it requires pumping the pedal repeatedly with key to start and every once in a while the engine will sound as if it is catching and then the sound is not as appetizing and then it sounds good again and usually over time the good sound lasts longer and if you are persistent it will eventually catch enough to fire up.
10-15-10, 08:29 PM
#31
Oh, so now this all makes sense. You did a terrible job at describing what happened 
If you say that the rpms shot through the roof, we're going to think that the actual engine rpms climbed uncontrollably. If you say that the tach jumped up to around 6k, but the engine didn't actually rev that high, then nobody's going to think it's a driveline issue.
Now, did you, or did you not do as I've been saying and check for spark, then check for fuel. I've said it 3 times now, so hopefully you've done it by now. If you follow what we're saying here, you can possibly get the damn thing running for work on sunday like you've already stated. If you keep fooling around and do stuff like pull the fuel pump sock off, you'll never get anywhere. It's obviously not going to be a fuel issue if the tach jumped up and the car shut off. The tach isn't run by fuel, it gets its signal from the ignition coils. Anyways, that's not the fuel filter, it's the pre-strainer, which case I've RARELY seen one get clogged.
Keep in mind that the engine can run off starting fluid momentarily without fuel or spark, just think of how diesels work. They don't have spark plugs, just fuel and compression. Starting fluid is extremely volatile, and I really don't recommend using it... ever. I'm not saying it's not a fuel problem, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound logical, knowing what happened to you.
If you say that the rpms shot through the roof, we're going to think that the actual engine rpms climbed uncontrollably. If you say that the tach jumped up to around 6k, but the engine didn't actually rev that high, then nobody's going to think it's a driveline issue.Now, did you, or did you not do as I've been saying and check for spark, then check for fuel. I've said it 3 times now, so hopefully you've done it by now. If you follow what we're saying here, you can possibly get the damn thing running for work on sunday like you've already stated. If you keep fooling around and do stuff like pull the fuel pump sock off, you'll never get anywhere. It's obviously not going to be a fuel issue if the tach jumped up and the car shut off. The tach isn't run by fuel, it gets its signal from the ignition coils. Anyways, that's not the fuel filter, it's the pre-strainer, which case I've RARELY seen one get clogged.
Keep in mind that the engine can run off starting fluid momentarily without fuel or spark, just think of how diesels work. They don't have spark plugs, just fuel and compression. Starting fluid is extremely volatile, and I really don't recommend using it... ever. I'm not saying it's not a fuel problem, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound logical, knowing what happened to you.
10-16-10, 12:21 AM
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I flooded mine BAD once when I started the car for like 10 secs, moved it and shut it off without letting it run through its little cold start process or w/e, it sounded a LOT like that
to finally get mine started I 'jumpered' it to a running vehicle and basically kept cranking it in approximately 3-5 second bursts with the throttle pedal held down continuously (don't let the throttle up between cranks or it will try to throw more gas in the engine when you crank again doesn't make sense to me but it worked and it's what my grandpa told me to do haha)
it took 5 minutes or so of playing around with it like that to finally get it started again and I don't recommend doing it in your garage, I did and it was filled with smoke for half the day haha
GL and hopefully it is just severe flooding
edit: I missed that there was a second page started so this might not be helpful if you've already discovered it's a fuel starving issue
to finally get mine started I 'jumpered' it to a running vehicle and basically kept cranking it in approximately 3-5 second bursts with the throttle pedal held down continuously (don't let the throttle up between cranks or it will try to throw more gas in the engine when you crank again doesn't make sense to me but it worked and it's what my grandpa told me to do haha)
it took 5 minutes or so of playing around with it like that to finally get it started again and I don't recommend doing it in your garage, I did and it was filled with smoke for half the day haha
GL and hopefully it is just severe flooding
edit: I missed that there was a second page started so this might not be helpful if you've already discovered it's a fuel starving issue
10-16-10, 02:13 PM
#45
If you had a fuel pressure gauge it would be best but just seeing if fuel comes out of the hose as it spills into a jug is better than nothing. You can turn the key to "on" and jumper the fuel check connector "after" the hose is placed into the jug and observe for fuel.