2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

FD Upper on an Fc.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:22 AM
  #151  
NJGreenBudd's Avatar
rx-for-my-7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,207
Likes: 15
From: New Jersey
Wow. It's an S5 LIM. And I'll post plenty of pics so that everyone can see exactly what it looks like upside down, backwards, inside out, but it doesn't matter.

I'm going to contact the seller and see what he has to say about all of this.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 11:27 AM
  #152  
fc3s91's Avatar
R.I.P Mark( Icemark )
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1
From: socal
WOW just WOW!!!. Again guys if you want a true quality part I need a prepaid order of 10 to get started. This show what quality parts other people are putting out. Heres a link of what the part looks like and just ask other members on this forum about my parts. http://rbautosports.com/index.php?ac...od&productId=4 . There should be about 25 spacers floating around. I know its more than the greece guy but you wont have issues like this.
Thanks Robert
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 12:27 PM
  #153  
NJGreenBudd's Avatar
rx-for-my-7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,207
Likes: 15
From: New Jersey
I have contacted the seller and asked him to view this thread and leave his impression.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 01:11 PM
  #154  
Righty's Avatar
Very Hatefull.
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 361
Likes: 0
From: Kitchener, ON
ON

The photos in this thread look crude at best..
FC3S91... I don't think your allowed to link to a product without being a vendor...

I've been busy trying to get over a hurdle.. I'm focusing on keeping the UIM/LIM Unmodified.

It's easy to cut a corner or two and let the buyer grind away at their UIM, but if they wanted to grind their UIM, they might as well fill and shape it so there is no need for the adapter.

I dunno guys, Do you want to grind? If so I'll make a couple of the adapters below. They should also be reasonably cheap. I'm forecasting ~130 Possibly shipped depending on some variables.





PM's are key ;D
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:39 PM
  #155  
NJGreenBudd's Avatar
rx-for-my-7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,207
Likes: 15
From: New Jersey
What I want to know is how to we are supposed to get nuts on the two studs that are now too close to the UIM runners.



This has turned out to be a hassle.

It seems like there are plenty of people looking to make money off of this.......
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:52 PM
  #156  
JWteknix's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,515
Likes: 5
From: Wayne NJ
i bent my studs outward and used smaller the stock nuts. this is a problem u are supposed to have, its NOT to due to the fault of the manufacturer
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:54 PM
  #157  
eage8's Avatar
1308ccs of awesome
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,189
Likes: 18
From: Woodbine, MD
Originally Posted by JWteknix
i bent my studs outward and used smaller the stock nuts. this is a problem u are supposed to have, its NOT to due to the fault of the manufacturer
pics?

couldn't you just trim the metal around the stud? I imagine it's decently thick...
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 02:59 PM
  #158  
JWteknix's Avatar
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,515
Likes: 5
From: Wayne NJ
greenbud no one ever said it was gonna be easy!!!lol
you could, im lazy.
I just put the nuts on and tightened them down bam!!!
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:22 PM
  #159  
87 t-66's Avatar
not a drifter
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (133)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 9,337
Likes: 6
From: Columbus, Ohio
this thread is pretty entertaining...all of this work for what? a "better looking" UIM? seems like a huge waste of time/money IMO.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:39 PM
  #160  
Trots*88TII-AE*'s Avatar
4th string e-armchair QB
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,745
Likes: 0
From: North Bay, Ontario
Last I checked a dyno verified some gains. I agree there are better "bang for your buck" mods, but I wouldn't discount this as a complete waste of time/money.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:49 PM
  #161  
boosted1205's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,191
Likes: 0
From: west
I bought fc3s91 FD adapter awhile ago. The finish and quality of that is way better than what is pictured.
I don't know why you guys trying to make your own. I'll post a picture if I can find it.





Originally Posted by fc3s91
WOW just WOW!!!. Again guys if you want a true quality part I need a prepaid order of 10 to get started. This show what quality parts other people are putting out. Heres a link of what the part looks like and just ask other members on this forum about my parts. http://rbautosports.com/index.php?ac...od&productId=4 . There should be about 25 spacers floating around. I know its more than the greece guy but you wont have issues like this.
Thanks Robert
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:05 PM
  #162  
fc3s91's Avatar
R.I.P Mark( Icemark )
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1
From: socal
Originally Posted by boosted1205
I bought fc3s91 FD adapter awhile ago. The finish and quality of that is way better than what is pictured.
I don't know why you guys trying to make your own. I'll post a picture if I can find it.
Thank you.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:07 PM
  #163  
fc3s91's Avatar
R.I.P Mark( Icemark )
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,912
Likes: 1
From: socal
Originally Posted by Righty
The photos in this thread look crude at best..
FC3S91... I don't think your allowed to link to a product without being a vendor...

I've been busy trying to get over a hurdle.. I'm focusing on keeping the UIM/LIM Unmodified.

It's easy to cut a corner or two and let the buyer grind away at their UIM, but if they wanted to grind their UIM, they might as well fill and shape it so there is no need for the adapter.

I dunno guys, Do you want to grind? If so I'll make a couple of the adapters below. They should also be reasonably cheap. I'm forecasting ~130 Possibly shipped depending on some variables.





PM's are key ;D
I don't know but It seems you are doing the same thing. Let see you quality work.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:08 PM
  #164  
NJGreenBudd's Avatar
rx-for-my-7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,207
Likes: 15
From: New Jersey
The thing is that the ad made it seam a lot easier than it really is. I am not one to turn down a challenge though, look the past 3 years of my TII project.

I understand that the studs have to end up where they are, regardless of the spacer. The way the S5 LIM matches up to the FD UIM requires that the UIM holes are elongated. I just didn't realize these two were going to be so close to the runners. I can grind some of the metal away and I'm sure I'll get it squared away but this wasn't something that I had forseen.

The FD UIM isn't even why I am doing this swap, I really wanted the FD throttle body, but the FD UIM is a nice upgrade as well. This is part of a series of upgrades that I am doing including v mount intercooler, e-fan, alcohol injection. If I was concerned about wasting time and money I wouldn't be building a $20,000 FC that only gets driven a few weekends out of the year.

All in all, this spacer works with a bit of grinding and cursing.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:18 PM
  #165  
87 t-66's Avatar
not a drifter
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (133)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 9,337
Likes: 6
From: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted by Trots*88TII-AE*
Last I checked a dyno verified some gains.
where? what does "some gains" mean?
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:21 PM
  #166  
stylEmon's Avatar
FC since 99
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: PHL
this thread is pretty entertaining...all of this work for what? a "better looking" UIM? seems like a huge waste of time/money IMO.
50 ft/lbs of torque in high end... more than a little.

I beleive the dyno sheet is posted on page 1 or 2. A member posted his findings in a thread about 2 years ago. His dyno sheet has been floating around ever since.

Page 3

Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:57 PM
  #167  
87 t-66's Avatar
not a drifter
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (133)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 9,337
Likes: 6
From: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted by stylEmon
50 ft/lbs of torque in high end... more than a little.

I beleive the dyno sheet is posted on page 1 or 2. A member posted his findings in a thread about 2 years ago. His dyno sheet has been floating around ever since.

Page 3
meh. is that a stock motor? spacer used or no spacer? same tune with and without? i'm still skeptical. either way, i wouldn't spending the time and money to make it work...just my opinion.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:04 PM
  #168  
stylEmon's Avatar
FC since 99
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: PHL
meh. is that a stock motor? spacer used or no spacer? same tune with and without? i'm still skeptical. either way, i wouldn't spending the time and money to make it work...just my opinion.
I don't remeber the details, but i do know it was the same tune. The guy had a 2 pg post about it when he did it, so it's around here somewhere.

I will eventually do this mod. If you shop smart, you can get the FD UIM and TB very cheap. I already have a TB adapter.

For me, the looks, and extra 50 ft/lbs are worth it alone. But better air flow in the intake "seals the deal".

What else are you going to do? Custom intake? that will be more $$, and require loads of testing.

EDIT**
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ht=FD+UIM+Dyno
It took me a few looks at the dyno to see the results... there are like 5 different runs on that sheet.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:31 PM
  #169  
ΝΙΚΟΣ's Avatar
NIKOCRX
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: greece
i did left all of you guys speak,to see where this goes....now look at the picks.NJGreenBudd had put it upside down...i'm 1000% sure...

at the first pic is a s5 lim,at the second the same lim with s5 gasket,the rest pics is with the adapter on the good side,and the last is with the adapter UPSIDE DOWN.....if you see the last pic and NJGreenBudd's pic with the marker you will understund it's upside down.....
Attached Thumbnails FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00479.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00480.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00481.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00482.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00483.jpg  

FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00484.jpg  
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:39 PM
  #170  
ΝΙΚΟΣ's Avatar
NIKOCRX
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: greece
as for the nuts you can eat some from the uim,it's not that thin,look at the picks...
Attached Thumbnails FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00489.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00490.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-dsc00491.jpg  

Last edited by ΝΙΚΟΣ; Mar 10, 2009 at 05:40 PM. Reason: pics
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 05:56 PM
  #171  
Spectator's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,315
Likes: 0
From: Canada



It is upside down. I knew it. How does it feel? Are you sure you wanna spend 20k$ on a car where you do your own work?

Spec.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:17 PM
  #172  
ΝΙΚΟΣ's Avatar
NIKOCRX
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: greece
i did show the picks to GREGORY the man who owns the SAFE DRIVE SERVICE store and he understund it with the first look,you can stop blame the item now,he is not gonna make more,there is only one left unsold but that's not a problem,from now you can return and buy the 220$-300$-400$ adapters...and as for all the guys who interested to make some adapters and sell them,stop speaking and start make them,pay them and after sell them,as GREGORY did...stop asking pre-orders,pre-pay and if anyone has the mesurements...he did make 20 and sell 19...but in ONE MONTH.10 in e-bay and 10 in greece.now he is making 10 for the s4 guys.

if you are not sure how to install it go to a blacksmith,it will not cost so much.and don't put it UPSIDE-DOWN!!!!
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:29 PM
  #173  
stylEmon's Avatar
FC since 99
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 2
From: PHL
is this thread on it's way to the FS section or what?!!?!?
There are like 5 different topics and a group buy rolling around here....
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 06:49 PM
  #174  
misterstyx69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Retired Moderator, RIP
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (142)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 25,581
Likes: 136
From: Smiths Falls.(near Ottawa!.Mapquest IT!)
Originally Posted by stylEmon
is this thread on it's way to the FS section or what?!!?!?
There are like 5 different topics and a group buy rolling around here....
..Ehh..what the Heck Style!!..let it go!..It sort of reminds me of a barbeque!..good meat,then someone decides to heat it up,then Blam!..Overcooked and Ruined!
I'd like it to stay,there is still some Info on here That I want/Need.I don't want it deleted as I was the one who Originally Posted it.
Let the Boys have their Fun.
(heh.sort of a lesson to to be learned "Hidden" in all of this stuff anyhow!)
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 09:02 PM
  #175  
NJGreenBudd's Avatar
rx-for-my-7
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,207
Likes: 15
From: New Jersey
Oh snap!!

Okay, get this: I had it upside down.





But, in my defense, I'd like to point out that the adapter in your pics is different than mine. The whole shape is different, see how yours is symmetrical and mine had one pointed end and one flat end. Well, if you look at the FD UIM it has the same flat side and pointed side. Look at what I mean:

Yours-


Mine-



Which way would you guess is the correct way by the rough shape of the adapter and the UIM mounting surface?

or





It seemed like it should be oriented as shown in the second pic. But it's actually the first pic. I was seriously confused and there were no pics to look at the showed which way it faced.


The only thing that is affected by having it one way or the other is that small difference on the LIM ports. Luckily it was such a small amount of grinding that it doesn't ruin anything, actually still seems perfectly flush with the spacer when flipped over the right way.












So........ like you said, the port job was fine, the stud holes on the FD UIM are the only thing that needs to be modified. I appreciate the pics too, they help a lot.

Now everyone can make fun , "Hey! Remember when NJGreenBudd had the FD UIM adapter on upside down? What a riot!!"

Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:42 PM.