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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 04:42 AM
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for sale...and it doesn't need porting...
e-mail :cars4run@live.com
still for sale. iam looking for adapter s4 to fd intake
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 04:40 AM
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161$ shipped.

1$ more than fc3s91's junk adapter

is that U.S. dollars?
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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FINALLY... what ive waitin for ahaha is the $161.00 shipped to cali also? if so save me one
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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save me one too
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Old Dec 20, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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emailed and tried to contact seller but no response... whats going on with that?!

Originally Posted by ΝΙΚΟΣ
161$ shipped.

1$ more than fc3s91's junk adapter

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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ΝΙΚΟΣ
161$ shipped.

1$ more than fc3s91's junk adapter

My junk adaptar? Nice try *** wipe !!!! If you look at mine compare to yours, yours look like a chunk of aluminnum with holes. good luck with your paper weight. I should have mine out here soon.
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ΝΙΚΟΣ
for sale...and it doesn't need porting...
e-mail :cars4run@live.com
Thanks for a good joke!!!
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Please Guys!
I started off this Thread For INFO on the conversion..
NOT to have it taken over with FOR SALE Ads!
Members have taken their time to Read up on the Conversion and added their Prospective and Input on How to do so..(thanks,Lads.)
You wanna Sell stuff?,there is a Section for that.
Please respect the Fact that this Section is for the good of Helping Fellow enthusiasts.
So I kindly ask that you Refrain from any Selling OR arguing about Parts Being SOLD.
Start your own Thread and let the Chips fly there.Not here.
Thanks .STYX!~
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Old Dec 21, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I have little knowledge of the UIM/LIM S5/S6 thing, but I thought of one thing which I bet you did 10 years ago, and found undoable.

Get 4 pipes same size as the UIM pipes, cut the UIM @ its highest point (the bend) and @ the throttle body, and make some welding magic like making a exhaust manifold? And ofc make all the nipples and so that are @ those 15cm that will be cut away.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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in a few weeks I will be going back to the dyno to get a baseline number, I am going to be using a different dyno but the same person doing the tuning who did it before.

I am swapping to a FD UIM and throttle body, going the porting route to get them to mate, only other mods will be cleaning up the intercooler piping because of the different elbow/throttle body set up.

Then back to the dyno to clean the tune up, should provide good data.

Then re-tuning for E85 with no other changes, car will have 2 maps
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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what injectors are you using with the e85?? it will use up to 30% more fuel
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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my tuner wants to try with what I have now, which is 780s and 1680s, if im maxed out I will swap injectors. Im only shooting for 440hp or so
the FD intake is more so I can hide the bac under the manifold, also because I have had my current set up for a while now and want something different, if it gives me a performance improvement so be it
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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He was my setup about 3-4 years ago. FD upper, matched the ports with a spacer and extended studs. Car made 350rwhp/270tq at 14psi at 6k (wastegate issue, unable to finish the tune above 6k)
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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so you never finished tuning?
what turbo?
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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turbo was a turboonetics 60-1 .84 I never finished tuning the car fully, but did get a chance to track it alittle. I tore it apart to go PP, but unfortunately did not finish and parted out the car. So Im out of the game for awhile
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Old Feb 23, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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For all the people asking, the spacers are back up fs.
Thanks Robert
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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Great thread- Does anybody make up adapters that don't require any port matching at all?
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:51 PM
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we want S4 to FD adaptors!!!
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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How can I do it from s4 manifold to 3rd Gen upper?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Drill FC3S91's bolt holes a bit bigger and do a slight port match.
Look at my Avatar,,that is an s4 Lower with an FD upper...I had a couple lowers and accidentally went with the s4!!!(it was the best looking and I wasn't the wiser!).BUT it worked!
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Great thread- Does anybody make up adapters that don't require any port matching at all?
mine didnt require any port matching, the only modifaction i needed to do was hog out the 2 center BOLT holes and go one drill size up on the outers on the fd upper. if you want i can email you the actual cnc file. me and my buddy made this, i used a 3axis cnc, could only do half the part at once as the head cant tilt so i only did half of each port and then fliped the flange over and did the other port taper.

anyone else want the file? the format is not supported to upload onto the fourm so i can email it to you and you can use solid edge viewer to at least open and view the print, but you will need solid edge or someother cad program to really get in depth, a machine shop how ever can open and run the file no problem.

btw my print is free..just because i can

edit, if anyone knows how to post a dft on here i can just put the print up here.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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heres mine, pic one is just a general shot of it, pic 2 is the fd side with gasket on it, pic 3 is the fc side with gasket side. as you can see just the 2 center bolt holes need the most work, the outers where just a sliver difference.

sorry for the dark pics.
Attached Thumbnails FD Upper on an Fc.-general-view.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-fd-side.jpg   FD Upper on an Fc.-fc-side.jpg  
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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You can post a zip file.
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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BAC questions regarding this modification

Time to bump this up.

I just finished carefully reading through all 15 pages of this thread. Excellent thread regarding doing this modificaiton.

Anyway, there were a couple questions that I share that a poster asked earlier in this thread, but I could find no real answer. Cut and paste:

2)The FD UIM has no BAC, nor does the FD TB have a thermowax device? Should I just cap the coolant line on top of the rear iron that used to go to the FC TB and the one on the back of the water pump? Is my idle going to suck without the BAC and thermowax or does the FD TB handle warmup differently?

3)Similarly the FD UIM has no air bypass solenoid valve or air supply valve. I don't have either PS or AC but does it even matter with the FD TB?


I'd very much appreciate definitive response as to anyone's experience regarding these concerns.

For instance, I assume the FD BAC can be used since I'm running a Haltech P1000. But is the BAC even necessary with my Haltech?
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