2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

FD brakes on FC?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-14-08, 03:20 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
bl00dlust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Garland, Texas
Posts: 640
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FD brakes on FC?

Just wondering, will they fit?
Old 04-14-08, 03:25 PM
  #2  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
blackball7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
bahhh! you should know to search by now!

but yes they somewhat will.

just use 4 piston TII calipers and brackets (may have to make something to move the brackets out farther) and the FD rotors.

dont forget some nice Hawk pads too!
Old 04-14-08, 04:04 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
bl00dlust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Garland, Texas
Posts: 640
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i did search, maybe i'm just retarded and couldnt find anything.
Old 04-14-08, 04:25 PM
  #4  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
blackball7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
meh. i asked before and got my head chewed off! lol

it happens.

actually if you want to know more about it ask rob81gsl. he knows more than i do about it.

now... back to teh lounge with joo!!!
Old 04-14-08, 04:30 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
ncfc3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sc
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
Old 04-14-08, 04:31 PM
  #6  
B O R I C U A

iTrader: (14)
 
KNONFS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: VA
Posts: 5,480
Received 35 Likes on 29 Posts
Originally Posted by bl00dlust
Just wondering, will they fit?

Front calipers do with no modification what so ever. If you intend to use the FD front rotors, you will need a spacer (Ted posted a pic not to long ago, however I've never seen the spacer in this part of the world)

Don't know about the rears
Old 04-14-08, 04:34 PM
  #7  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Chaotic_FC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: paradise Florida
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ncfc3s
Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
+1
when i get the time i'll be doing that swap
Old 04-14-08, 06:25 PM
  #8  
10 lb. boost, 5lb. bag

iTrader: (1)
 
Gene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.
Old 04-14-08, 06:47 PM
  #9  
Senior Member

iTrader: (1)
 
blackball7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
all you really need is a good set of pads and the TII brakes. thats all! no more.

they do their job and they do it well.

the only time you will need more is past probably 600 RWHP.
Old 04-14-08, 06:48 PM
  #10  
A7X
For sale!! PM

 
A7X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Monroe, MI/Anderson, SC
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gene
Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.
not neccesarily...
Old 04-14-08, 10:49 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
cezonetheillest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: spokane wa
Posts: 657
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
here bloodlust and for everyone else thats been wondering. RETed posted a link to yahoo japan auctions for an aftermarket bracket that will work for what you want it to.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/want-use-fd3s-front-brake-rotors-744893/
Old 04-15-08, 12:05 AM
  #12  
rotorhead

iTrader: (3)
 
arghx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: cold
Posts: 16,182
Received 430 Likes on 263 Posts
aren't the FD brakes and the 4 piston FC brakes functionally the same? I thought the rotors and calipers were pretty much the same design and similar size. And I know the brake pads are pretty much the same too, unless I am completely off the mark.
Old 04-15-08, 12:35 AM
  #13  
Lives on the Forum

 
RETed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: n
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
FC 4-piston, 5-lug front / FC vented 5-lug rears...

Calipers are basically the same - Yes.
Brake rotors are NOT.
Brakes pads are IDENTICAL.


-Ted
Old 04-15-08, 12:38 AM
  #14  
Lives on the Forum

 
RETed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: n
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally Posted by ncfc3s
I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
I wouldn't.

Look at all that brake bias and brake pedal feel problems he's running into now.
I had a feeling it was going to end up like that...

So your ~$500 Brembo brake calipers from eBay suddenly turn into a $1,000+ project...
Machined rotors...
New brake master cylinder...
Custom brake lines...


-Ted
Old 04-15-08, 09:00 PM
  #15  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
ncfc3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sc
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It looked good. I have not followed up on it. Meh, you gotta give the guy props for trying though.
Old 04-15-08, 11:25 PM
  #16  
Slowpoke

iTrader: (3)
 
Hypertek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Socal
Posts: 5,273
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
R33 spizzam!




You can see they removed the front brake dust shield. The rears look to still be FC calipers but maybe FD rotors or from teh R33/Z car family i dunno
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k51728628

would be nice to just get that.. they even modified the front anchor
Old 04-16-08, 02:29 PM
  #17  
ARE wheel whore.

iTrader: (14)
 
13b_cookie_monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: los angeles
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
fc 4 pot brakes should be enough stopping power unless you're boosting alot of power. Just upgrade the lines to steel braided, flush the system, and run better pads.
Old 04-16-08, 10:03 PM
  #18  
pwned

 
dean23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Indiana
Posts: 1,296
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mmm uselesss post... dude has no gender, man.

most aftermarket calipers are four pot, unless you pay for the bigger 6 and 8 pot. but the brake bias is beautiful imo. why mess with it? ive got drilled rotors and my car stops on a dime. ABS helps a f*ton too. sometime this summer ill drop a few hundred (a few few hundreds) to upgrade my lines to SS (including fuel and oil)
Old 04-16-08, 10:58 PM
  #19  
RIP Mark

iTrader: (2)
 
YaNi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dublin, OH
Posts: 657
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by dean23
ive got drilled rotors
Drilled rotors don't help you stop any quicker, its all show.

Originally Posted by dean23
ABS helps a f*ton too.
ABS doesn't help you stop faster, if anything, it slows you down when threshold braking. These early systems were garbage, but are somehow better then my 2002 Chevy's...
Old 04-16-08, 11:05 PM
  #20  
GTUs WHORE!

iTrader: (1)
 
JunpoweR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Bay Area - California
Posts: 1,353
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If anybody ends up using their abs I will give a word of advice,
"You think your driving fast when you are really not."
Old 04-17-08, 04:48 PM
  #21  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
ncfc3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: sc
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, if I said "shes a dude" then I think that would mean there would be some extra equipment there...but the every day use of dude....universal....drilled and vented rotors just get rid of hear...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up....+1 for nice pads and ss braided lines....
Old 04-17-08, 05:05 PM
  #22  
The end of an era

iTrader: (4)
 
Andrew.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Riverside, CA
Posts: 4,717
Received 6 Likes on 4 Posts
How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.
Old 04-17-08, 05:18 PM
  #23  
Back in the game

iTrader: (-1)
 
TehMonkay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 2,456
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
FD front rotors would fit with a bracket, however, what is the point, theyre .2in larger in diameter.

Maybe the 99 spec brakes, which were larger.

Also, expect to get a S5 T2 Brake booster and 929MC when upgrading your calipers as well.
Old 04-17-08, 08:43 PM
  #24  
Lives on the Forum

 
Black91n/a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 5,707
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by ncfc3s
drilled and vented rotors just get rid of heat...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up
Nope, they don't help with fade. When they get hot they're MUCH more likely to crack than a plain rotor. They're for show only and only really survive when driven as such have absolutely no business being used on track or in any high stress environment.
Old 04-17-08, 11:29 PM
  #25  
Mac Attack

iTrader: (5)
 
MaczPayne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: California
Posts: 5,668
Received 20 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.
+1

Another thing to add:

Tires also play a big role in determining your braking needs.


Quick Reply: FD brakes on FC?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:36 AM.