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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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FD brakes on FC?

Just wondering, will they fit?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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bahhh! you should know to search by now!

but yes they somewhat will.

just use 4 piston TII calipers and brackets (may have to make something to move the brackets out farther) and the FD rotors.

dont forget some nice Hawk pads too!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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i did search, maybe i'm just retarded and couldnt find anything.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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meh. i asked before and got my head chewed off! lol

it happens.

actually if you want to know more about it ask rob81gsl. he knows more than i do about it.

now... back to teh lounge with joo!!!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bl00dlust
Just wondering, will they fit?

Front calipers do with no modification what so ever. If you intend to use the FD front rotors, you will need a spacer (Ted posted a pic not to long ago, however I've never seen the spacer in this part of the world)

Don't know about the rears
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
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when i get the time i'll be doing that swap
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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all you really need is a good set of pads and the TII brakes. thats all! no more.

they do their job and they do it well.

the only time you will need more is past probably 600 RWHP.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.
not neccesarily...
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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here bloodlust and for everyone else thats been wondering. RETed posted a link to yahoo japan auctions for an aftermarket bracket that will work for what you want it to.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/want-use-fd3s-front-brake-rotors-744893/
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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aren't the FD brakes and the 4 piston FC brakes functionally the same? I thought the rotors and calipers were pretty much the same design and similar size. And I know the brake pads are pretty much the same too, unless I am completely off the mark.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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FC 4-piston, 5-lug front / FC vented 5-lug rears...

Calipers are basically the same - Yes.
Brake rotors are NOT.
Brakes pads are IDENTICAL.


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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ncfc3s
I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!
I wouldn't.

Look at all that brake bias and brake pedal feel problems he's running into now.
I had a feeling it was going to end up like that...

So your ~$500 Brembo brake calipers from eBay suddenly turn into a $1,000+ project...
Machined rotors...
New brake master cylinder...
Custom brake lines...


-Ted
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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It looked good. I have not followed up on it. Meh, you gotta give the guy props for trying though.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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R33 spizzam!




You can see they removed the front brake dust shield. The rears look to still be FC calipers but maybe FD rotors or from teh R33/Z car family i dunno
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k51728628

would be nice to just get that.. they even modified the front anchor
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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fc 4 pot brakes should be enough stopping power unless you're boosting alot of power. Just upgrade the lines to steel braided, flush the system, and run better pads.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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mmm uselesss post... dude has no gender, man.

most aftermarket calipers are four pot, unless you pay for the bigger 6 and 8 pot. but the brake bias is beautiful imo. why mess with it? ive got drilled rotors and my car stops on a dime. ABS helps a f*ton too. sometime this summer ill drop a few hundred (a few few hundreds) to upgrade my lines to SS (including fuel and oil)
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dean23
ive got drilled rotors
Drilled rotors don't help you stop any quicker, its all show.

Originally Posted by dean23
ABS helps a f*ton too.
ABS doesn't help you stop faster, if anything, it slows you down when threshold braking. These early systems were garbage, but are somehow better then my 2002 Chevy's...
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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If anybody ends up using their abs I will give a word of advice,
"You think your driving fast when you are really not."
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Well, if I said "shes a dude" then I think that would mean there would be some extra equipment there...but the every day use of dude....universal....drilled and vented rotors just get rid of hear...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up....+1 for nice pads and ss braided lines....
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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FD front rotors would fit with a bracket, however, what is the point, theyre .2in larger in diameter.

Maybe the 99 spec brakes, which were larger.

Also, expect to get a S5 T2 Brake booster and 929MC when upgrading your calipers as well.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ncfc3s
drilled and vented rotors just get rid of heat...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up
Nope, they don't help with fade. When they get hot they're MUCH more likely to crack than a plain rotor. They're for show only and only really survive when driven as such have absolutely no business being used on track or in any high stress environment.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.
+1

Another thing to add:

Tires also play a big role in determining your braking needs.
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