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bl00dlust 04-14-08 03:20 PM

FD brakes on FC?
 
Just wondering, will they fit? :Wconfused

blackball7 04-14-08 03:25 PM

bahhh! you should know to search by now!

but yes they somewhat will.

just use 4 piston TII calipers and brackets (may have to make something to move the brackets out farther) and the FD rotors.

dont forget some nice Hawk pads too!

bl00dlust 04-14-08 04:04 PM

i did search, maybe i'm just retarded and couldnt find anything. :(

blackball7 04-14-08 04:25 PM

meh. i asked before and got my head chewed off! lol

it happens.

actually if you want to know more about it ask rob81gsl. he knows more than i do about it.

now... back to teh lounge with joo!!!

ncfc3s 04-14-08 04:30 PM

I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!

KNONFS 04-14-08 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by bl00dlust (Post 8092485)
Just wondering, will they fit? :Wconfused


Front calipers do with no modification what so ever. If you intend to use the FD front rotors, you will need a spacer (Ted posted a pic not to long ago, however I've never seen the spacer in this part of the world)

Don't know about the rears :(

Chaotic_FC 04-14-08 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by ncfc3s (Post 8092770)
Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!

+1
when i get the time i'll be doing that swap

Gene 04-14-08 06:25 PM

Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.

blackball7 04-14-08 06:47 PM

all you really need is a good set of pads and the TII brakes. thats all! no more.

they do their job and they do it well.

the only time you will need more is past probably 600 RWHP.

A7X 04-14-08 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Gene (Post 8093260)
Holy crap, I just thought of something. If the FD rotors will fit on the car with the FC calipers and a bracket, and the FD calipers will fit with the FC rotors and no adapter (Identical mounting and pad location), then in theory, any front big brake kit intended for an FD will work with the adapters that let you run the FC calipers and FD rotors, assuming you don't mind running double adapters and they don't interfere with one another.

not neccesarily...

cezonetheillest 04-14-08 10:49 PM

here bloodlust and for everyone else thats been wondering. RETed posted a link to yahoo japan auctions for an aftermarket bracket that will work for what you want it to.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/want-use-fd3s-front-brake-rotors-744893/

arghx 04-15-08 12:05 AM

aren't the FD brakes and the 4 piston FC brakes functionally the same? I thought the rotors and calipers were pretty much the same design and similar size. And I know the brake pads are pretty much the same too, unless I am completely off the mark.

RETed 04-15-08 12:35 AM

FC 4-piston, 5-lug front / FC vented 5-lug rears...

Calipers are basically the same - Yes.
Brake rotors are NOT.
Brakes pads are IDENTICAL.


-Ted

RETed 04-15-08 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by ncfc3s (Post 8092770)
I think I read somewhere that there would be no gains...But notice the "think". Dude, seriously, if I had to custom up some breakage, I would do the EVO swap like that one guy....stuff was on point!

I wouldn't.

Look at all that brake bias and brake pedal feel problems he's running into now.
I had a feeling it was going to end up like that...

So your ~$500 Brembo brake calipers from eBay suddenly turn into a $1,000+ project...
Machined rotors...
New brake master cylinder...
Custom brake lines...


-Ted

ncfc3s 04-15-08 09:00 PM

It looked good. I have not followed up on it. Meh, you gotta give the guy props for trying though.

Hypertek 04-15-08 11:25 PM

R33 spizzam!
http://img305.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...8171675hjy.jpg
http://img305.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...8171713hdy.jpg
http://img305.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...8171723bdg.jpg

You can see they removed the front brake dust shield. The rears look to still be FC calipers but maybe FD rotors or from teh R33/Z car family i dunno
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k51728628

would be nice to just get that.. they even modified the front anchor

13b_cookie_monster 04-16-08 02:29 PM

fc 4 pot brakes should be enough stopping power unless you're boosting alot of power. Just upgrade the lines to steel braided, flush the system, and run better pads.

dean23 04-16-08 10:03 PM

mmm uselesss post... dude has no gender, man.

most aftermarket calipers are four pot, unless you pay for the bigger 6 and 8 pot. but the brake bias is beautiful imo. why mess with it? ive got drilled rotors and my car stops on a dime. ABS helps a f*ton too. sometime this summer ill drop a few hundred (a few few hundreds) to upgrade my lines to SS (including fuel and oil)

YaNi 04-16-08 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by dean23 (Post 8101638)
ive got drilled rotors

Drilled rotors don't help you stop any quicker, its all show.


Originally Posted by dean23 (Post 8101638)
ABS helps a f*ton too.

ABS doesn't help you stop faster, if anything, it slows you down when threshold braking. These early systems were garbage, but are somehow better then my 2002 Chevy's...

JunpoweR 04-16-08 11:05 PM

If anybody ends up using their abs I will give a word of advice,
"You think your driving fast when you are really not."

ncfc3s 04-17-08 04:48 PM

Well, if I said "shes a dude" then I think that would mean there would be some extra equipment there...but the every day use of dude....universal....drilled and vented rotors just get rid of hear...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up....+1 for nice pads and ss braided lines....

Andrew. 04-17-08 05:05 PM

How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.

TehMonkay 04-17-08 05:18 PM

FD front rotors would fit with a bracket, however, what is the point, theyre .2in larger in diameter.

Maybe the 99 spec brakes, which were larger.

Also, expect to get a S5 T2 Brake booster and 929MC when upgrading your calipers as well.

Black91n/a 04-17-08 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by ncfc3s (Post 8104563)
drilled and vented rotors just get rid of heat...reducing brake fade...not going to help unless you push them hard long enough for them to heat up

Nope, they don't help with fade. When they get hot they're MUCH more likely to crack than a plain rotor. They're for show only and only really survive when driven as such have absolutely no business being used on track or in any high stress environment.

MaczPayne 04-17-08 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by andrewdruiz (Post 8104639)
How much power are you putting down? What pads? Brake fluid? How fast are you experiencing fade? My friend Joel (frijolee) is engineering a 4-wheel BBK for under $1000 for the FC with larger rotors to help with heat dissipation if you're at the limits of the stock brakes.

+1

Another thing to add:

Tires also play a big role in determining your braking needs.


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