Here.. You can buy this body kit.. Comes with a free car under it... This whole thing remods me of that fad in the late 80's when people were putting Ferrari bodywork on Pontiac Fieros..lol.. Also the reference to the MILLION DOLLAR F1 mde me LOL so much.. You compared your kit/materials to a car that cost a 1,000,000 dollars in a thread regarding a bodykit.. LOL..

 

You lose me at this line. Too funny. What level of formal education do you have in fluids? As long as we're on the topic of education... have you gradded from high school yet? I'm going to guess its the old... "It looks faster so it must BE faster".

Are you going to model the car in scale first for testing, or just roll your finished product to the wind tunnel?

Tackling a project like this when you can't afford $120 for an engine... Wow.

But go ahead, prove me wrong ha ha ha.

 

well, from your point of view, you think your winning, and i can see why.
but theres more here than i've expained.
all the venting/ducting is going to be fully functional in the prototype. every last bit of it. and the kit that i sell is going to have an optional fully-flat underbody, with some louvers to release heat.

i may not have studied fluid dynamics, but it doesn't take an idiot to see that if you channel all of the air, it will have better flow.

 

Caroll Shelby also had 10 years of racing experience under his belt at the time of starting the project, having raced in ferrari's, Aston-Martin, Auston-Healey, Maserati's, and being named Sports Illustrated's "Driver of the Year" in 1957 and winning the 24 Hours of Lemans. Caroll Shelby didn't design the body of the AC, either, he offered AC Cars an idea for using a ford replacement engine when AC Cars lost its source for 6-cylinder engines. The original 260 CI V8 roadster was built by AC Cars and air-mailed to him.

You're comparing a factory-backed racing team driver to a kid asking for someone to donate a shell. That makes about as much sense as comparing an F1 to a CFRP bodykit.

 

Your beloved MClaren F1, having fully functional vents and a completely flat underbody, has a coefficient of aerodynamic drag of 0.31. The Bugatti Veyron has a coefficient of 0.36. The factory Aero Package on the FC lowered the coefficient of drag from 0.31 to 0.29.

And you're going to improve on this?? Can you see why we're laughing?

 

but this guy came out of the blue, and look what the hell HE's making!
http://www.dpcars.net/dp1dsn/index.htm
now i know i'm not him
but my project is NOTHING compared to his..
(btw, notice the entire body is CF)

 

ok
so what happens when you take that .29, and then use ducting to remove all of the air getting trapped in the engine bay, and an undercarriage to help with down force.
that may seem laughable. but theres real physics behind that. do i know it? no. can i interpret it to help me? yes.

 

Notice the use of qualified engineers on the project?
http://www.randomresearch.com/

Notice how the plug was built?

 

The factory aero package included a rear under panel. All FC's have a front one. And there is no air "trapped" in the engine bay. In fact at high speed without the proper ducting our cars tend to overheat because of the lack of flow.

Plenty have said it already. If you want to try it go ahead and stop wasting your time. If you never try you'll never accomplish anything.

 

haha, i wonder how hard it is to get one of those for my usage?

 

I STRONGLY advise you to at least read the stuff in the following link before making any more claims about perceived aero benefits. At the bottom of the page, there's a link to a zipped file containing a number of articles pulled from Racecar Engineering examining all kinds of things like air dams, splitters, wings, spoilers, underbody aero and so on.

http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/chassis.htm

Adding vents and intakes will increase drag by disrupting the airflow. Making the car wider will increase frontal area and will cause the wheel wells to act as big air scoops, which will give more drag.

I've taken courses in fluid dymamics and aerodynamics and I HIGHLY doubt that any such kit will lower drag. It might give more downforce with a full smooth floor, diffuser, front air dam and splitter and vented hood, but it'll probably have more drag.

STOP POSTING AND START BUILDING!

 

Did some minor thread cleaning. Deleted redundant posts, those that could be considered flame bait, and stuff that didn't contribute. No useful information was removed from the thread. Thanks for keeping it flame free so far.

 

sorry for flaming you CHAOTIC FC

i have been in this forum a long time now, thats is not how i conduct my self...i want to help buddy so heres a step to the right direction for you

pm this guy so he can help with the main materials needed, click on the link and read on

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=675147

 

I still think this thread is FAIL.
I'll put up $100 that this isn't completed in one year from the timestamp from the first post of this thread.
tick tick


-Ted

 

alright, thanks a lot man

 

i have been doing a lot of conceptualization lately, and this is kinda what i've come up with.

its not the cleanest sketch, but the idea was to make something more original, instead of just copying somebody else's work.
please, i did not post this to get flamed about how unlikely you think it is, because i am making it.
tell me, what items do you think would make the car more desirable:

1.stock tailights
custom taillights
2.stock headlights
flush headlights
3.regular doors
gullwing doors
or scissor doors

i just ask these things in regard to what people would go for.
the reason for the door option is that i am making doors with the kit as well, and they will be reshaped to match the body lines, somewhat like what scoot did with there kit.
thanks in advanced.

 

I like your sketches.
Stock taillights.
Two instead of three headlights (fd bucket style).
Rework the lower front bumper.

Actually if you could incorporate aftermarket fd dual headlight buckets, that is one less thing to to develop. You would have to rework the hood though.

 

i was actually considering that(fitting in FD headlights), it might be a smart thing to do
i wonder how well an FD hood lines up on our cars
i know that the front bumper and fenders would have to change, but i am already doing that. I'm more concerned about the lines along the windshield.
and what part of the lower front bumper are you referring to?
thanks btw

 

Looks cool. I agree about the front bumper. IMO it would look better without the vent on the side of the bumper. Nice work though. Also, how do plan on developing this kit. And will you sell them?

 

why don't you use this so you stay within the dimensions. Your drawings are looking better but not proportional:

Didn't post it cuz it was too big.

 

i've gone over this in the thread, but i'll repeat it anyways.
as the title says, i plan on making a widebody kit for the FC made of carbon fiber.
the kit will include:
front bumper, front fenders, hood(mabey FD hood required??), sideskirts, doors, rear fenders, and rear bumper.
i plan on spraying a hardening foam over the body panels and then making molds off them.
i do plan on selling the kit, but the cost will depend on how much it cost to produce. I plan on selling it as cheap as is reasonably possible, unlike other kits for the FD which cost 5 figures...

anything else?

 

1. it looks kinda like you were looking at a picture of an f40 while you were doin the sketch

new headlights, regular doors, stock tails. i like the hood. if oyu go wide you sure as hell better go really wide

 

wow, thanks a lot, i needed something like that
right now i'm gunna edit those pics to make a real nice drawing.

 

your sketch is getting better

 

your concept sketches are deff moving in the right direction and looking better no i would decided just what you want then make a detailed sketch with the right dimensions