ok so heres the deal im building a street ported t2 and want to use my t2 stuff to turbo the n/a for now... and i have the full turbo kit and **** minus intercooler.. i was wondering if i could just slap the manifold, my big azz injectors, turbo, wastegate, and then a safc plus a wideband on my n/a motor.... and have some fun... is there anything that really prevents me from doing so.... itll be like 4-5 psi at most i really want to do it i was just gonna put the maf into the intercooler piping it self that way it reads air to the intake not flowing into the turbo lmk what you guys think

I WILL HAVE AN INTERCOOLER

 

i think you should use proper punctuation. but lemme answer the question, but i have no freaking idea what the hell you are asking, but my answer to whatever i read is... put a damn intercooler on it.

 

ok now read and lmk what you think thanks

 

put a damn intercooler on it. sheesh.

 

i was just gonna put the maf into the intercooler piping it self that way it reads air to the intake not flowing into the turbo

Interesting idea...do you have the S4 or S5 MAF?

 

I'm assuming that is part of the edited out post? I'm thinking putting the MAF into the piping would put too much strain the MAF and break it prematurely.

 

blow threw MAFS have been done for ages. I thibk i have seen every car but a rx7 with a blow threw setup. Go to the Z community, thats like a newbie mod lol.

 

We don't have MAF's. MAF's measure mass air flow, a physical measurement of the number of air molecules entering the engine.

We have AFM's, which measure air flow. This measurement, combined with manifold pressure, air tempurature, etc. are used to calculate the amount of air entering the engine. They do not work for blow-through set-ups.

That's why RX-7 owner's don't do this 'mod'.

AFM must go before the turbo.

 

Yeah... Information that you've not read.

http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/

 

No.

- Ted

 

ive read the aaroncake BS all he does is space out the turbo for clearence run bigger injectors and tune on stock ecu with safc i dont see why i cant just bolt on turbo and accesories and go to town like on say a ka24 or something like that

 

You can. The TII manifold runners don't match the N/A irons but it bolts on. If you really care, you can get crafty with some JB weld and a dremel. The only thing standing in your way of higher boost is the N/A's advanced timing. If you can figure out a SAFC then you can figure out how to retard some timing under boost.

 

U have to modify the lim unless u only wanna use 4 of the 6 ports.

 

the exhaust port are different from the t2 to n/a is what your saying?

 

No. The intake manifold is different.

 

The TII is a 4 port engine, the NA is 6. You can do it, no issue. You may blow up the engine, but if you're building a TII block, who cares. You may damage the turbine wheel if an apex seal goes through it, but that's a possibility everyone worries about. There are a lot of writeups on turbocharging the NA 6 port engine, but you're going to need a little more supporting modifications than you have listed. Especially if your'e going to drop in a TII engine eventually. Don't forget, if you're going to JBWeld the TII LIM and match the ports to a 6PI, you'll need a new LIM to match to the TII 4 port once you swap the block over. Blow through will work just fine too. You'll want to have the blowoff valve pre-AFM if you want to run a vent-to-atmosphere one. And you'll need two 3-1/8" to whatever size intercooler pipe silicone adapters in order for it to work, since the AFM is freaking huge.

 

Good housings are getting harder and harder to find used. Why destroy good engine parts? I would break that engine down and reuse anything that's still within specs.

For your 13BT rebuild you could potentially reuse the 13B's housings, oil control rings, side seals, corner seals, apex seals...everything but soft seals, plates and oil pump. It all depends on the wear. Just throwing it out there.

 

Search.

 

Well thanks for calling my prototype installation and the considerable amount of effort I went through to document it BS.

Can you bolt on the turbo stuff (using the TII intake manifolds, that's the easiest way), upgrade the injectors and fuel pump, and use an S-AFC? Yes, of course you can. Should you? No. You'll have to compensate for the NA ECUs lack of timing retard by hosing more fuel into the system.

To be honest, based on the questions you are asking, I'd suggest you do some basic research before taking on this project.

Some good books are "Maximum Boost", "Street Turbocharging" (Mark Warner) and "Street Rotary" (Mark Warner). They will give you the basic understanding of the rotary and what it takes for a successful turbo installation.

Or, just bolt in a TII engine with the appropriate accessories and have fun.

 

Thats the honest to god easiest solution, and if doing things the "right way" the cheapest.

 

you could slap on all that, you'd need a spare T2 lower intake manifold, because you'll have to port it to fit the n/a block. don't do any of that crap unless you have a stand alone ECU or the correct T2 ECU, AFM, and pressure sensor for your model.

you'll also need to figure out how to get oil to and from the turbo with the n/a block.

 

hahahaha I lol'd... twice.

 

ok not callin your **** useless aaron i know you had alot of hard work put into it im just scraping the idea for now im just gonna continue to beat the absolute **** out of this motor till it goes or i get my turbo one in then im probably giving the n/a away or pp it will see

 

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