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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Akagis_white_comet
Thanks for the 20b OMP Logan. The S4 water pump's bottom neck is hitting it now, right at the hose barb so I can't get a hose on it. Got any suggestions
easiest solution would be to use a S5 waterpump. I have one, if you want to trade for your s4 pump.
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Have some more pics of the building process. We had to move the engine 1.75" further back into the chassis to make room for the large radiator and a/c. Started with a stock transmission mount, cut and fabricated a new structure onto it. Then, had our driveshaft shop shorten the driveshaft 1.75". Since the shifter would no longer line up, we used a 1st gen shift tower and modified the shift rod. This puts it very close to stock location.






Then built a oil pedestal bracket, and bolted the assembly to the shock tower. The pedestal will allow us to have twin -8an feed lines to front and rear of the block. We have found through racing that this is a desired modification.




Next was time to mock up the radiator and condenser, as well as the oil cooler. We relocated and fabricated the fill neck on the radiator to give additional hood clearance. Machined spacers were made, and the condenser bolts onto the radiator. Once the ideal locations were found, a subframe that holds both was fabricated. The subframe bolts onto the car, so no welding on the chassis would be required. This will be a quick release setup similar to my track car. The radiator, oil cooler, and condenser will be able to be removed in minutes from the top.




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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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nice work logan
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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More pics, had to upload some more. Final shot of the radiator/oil cooler bolt on subframe. Next step will be getting it powder coated







Radiator and oil cooler placed into subframe. Now time to construct the upper quick release bracket. It will double as a cooling panel too


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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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We need more pictures.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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While we are still working on the strut brace and underbody braces, figured I would post pics of the new rear calipers we finally sourced. We had some awesome brembo rears already, but they were not nickle plated. With a huge stroke of luck, got ahold of these PFC nickle plated mono-block rear calipers. Major find, and brand spanking new!




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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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ooOOOoooo PFC is like the ferrari of the brake world, its GREAT stuff.

i really like the radiator/ac subframe too, that's a great idea!
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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We got them at a ridiculously low price...

I am going to be so over braked but it is all about modulation with no ABS. Plus the bling factor is over the top.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 12:30 AM
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Started on the ITB intake system. We are hand building and machining the slide throttles. The lower flange was all machined and you can see the holes for semi p-ports. Slide assembly is just in the rough stages, I will post up completed pics here shortly showing the ball bearing assembly on the inside!











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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 11:51 PM
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This shows the internal teflon sheets



Milling the actuator grooves



Placement of the 4 ball bearing support system, and rounded the inside slider



Test assembly together with actuators



Showing movement of slide throttle



Hand bending curved end caps



Test assembly with radiuses on ends



Hand fitting and clearancing of the end caps



Smoothed and matched curved surfaces




Finished and polished slide



Countersunk plate bottoms, for spring perch. Much stronger than tapped aluminum

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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 11:51 PM
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Exploded view of all the parts finished to the slide throttle setup



Finished assembly with button head stainless hardware






Air horns placed, just to give a idea of what it will look like fully finished

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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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Those look awesome! Any intention of making a set of these for your race car too?
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Those look awesome! Any intention of making a set of these for your race car too?
Thank you sir! Yes definitely making a set for myself. I machined several parts at the same time to help speed up the process Next will be building the manifolds, and semi p-port slide throttles.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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Logan are these slide throttles going to be your "standard" when building ITB intakes? Just wondered what you had planned for my build, as I remember you had a few other ideas floating around. And If I dont get my tax refind soon to send your way I swear Im going to rob a bank.
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rxmfn7
Logan are these slide throttles going to be your "standard" when building ITB intakes? Just wondered what you had planned for my build, as I remember you had a few other ideas floating around. And If I dont get my tax refind soon to send your way I swear Im going to rob a bank.
Yeah looks like these will be the new standard with our ITB kits Make sure you conceal your identity when robbing banks! lol
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I didnt get a chance to show step by step of building the throttle brackets, but here it is complete. Last pic shows it with throttle cable attached. Next will be TPS linkage









And here is a quick video of operation. They work flawlessly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owVrsEoSyxM
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Old Feb 18, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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Slide throttles are so dope.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:51 PM
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Thank you for posting pics of the slide throttle and it's steps on it's build,Great work as always keep it up


P.S Just a quick suggestion if you don't mind,it would be nice if you sold those slide throttles as an Un-assembled barebones product.you know minus the intake manifold and trumpets/plenum,just an unassembled slide throttle.
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Old Feb 19, 2011 | 11:57 PM
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Really impressive work Logan, you guys are doing great stuff out there
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 03:39 AM
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looks like a giant cigar cutter!

j/k

awesome work bro,

what are the pro/cons of slide vs blade TB's?
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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Norris FB
Thank you for posting pics of the slide throttle and it's steps on it's build,Great work as always keep it up


P.S Just a quick suggestion if you don't mind,it would be nice if you sold those slide throttles as an Un-assembled barebones product.you know minus the intake manifold and trumpets/plenum,just an unassembled slide throttle.
Thank you! We will offer the slide assembly just by itself, so DIY guys can make any type of intake they wish. I am working on getting some new cnc machinery so the price we sell at is both reasonable and profitable. Currently doing it all by hand took me over 26 hours to build!


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Really impressive work Logan, you guys are doing great stuff out there
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looks like a giant cigar cutter!

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awesome work bro,

what are the pro/cons of slide vs blade TB's?
Yeah its the new worlds largest cigar cutter! It will also do three at a time! Haha. Pro of slide is at wide open throttle, there is zero airflow disturbance. This typically means the runner can be downsized and still flow the same amount while providing greater velocity. Con (from what I have heard, need to drive and see) is they are harder to modulate at different throttle openings.
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Old Feb 21, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GtoRx7.
Thank you! We will offer the slide assembly just by itself, so DIY guys can make any type of intake they wish. I am working on getting some new cnc machinery so the price we sell at is both reasonable and profitable. Currently doing it all by hand took me over 26 hours to build!




Thanks Rich!



Yeah its the new worlds largest cigar cutter! It will also do three at a time! Haha. Pro of slide is at wide open throttle, there is zero airflow disturbance. This typically means the runner can be downsized and still flow the same amount while providing greater velocity. Con (from what I have heard, need to drive and see) is they are harder to modulate at different throttle openings.
Looks like part of why it's harder to modulate is the shape of the opening. From closed to 50% open, it opens exponentially larger. From 50% to 100%, the gain is exponentially less. You might try making one with square openings once the CNC comes in and see if that helps give it more linear flow characteristics.
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On the slide throttle issue, Ive also seen some experimentation with them in a teardrop shape.
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