1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

stockport NA in the 13's!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:04 AM
  #1  
dvcn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Texas
stockport NA in the 13's!

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...84#post1642584

Finally made it! 13.96 @ 97.12mph

It takes a bit of effort, but it is totally possible. I have a bit of tuning left in it and a lot of weight reduction that is possible.

Mods are listed in the other thread. The pass was made last night at a certified IHRA track.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:25 AM
  #2  
onepointone's Avatar
i say what i want
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 0
From: richmond, va


damn dude.. congrats! thast impressive
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 12:10 PM
  #3  
mperformance's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 914
Likes: 0
From: far away
congratulations!
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 01:14 PM
  #4  
knight1976's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
From: Cibolo, TX
Very nice! Hopefully ill be close to your times soon. (maybe??? ) I am very interested in your Fuel pump and regulator setup. SHoot me an email would ya?
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:33 PM
  #5  
dvcn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Knight-
It's all about putting on parts that bang for the buck and then tuning it properly.

Carter fuel pump, Holley regulator, filter(s) and a good fuel pressure gauge. Set the fuel pressure at idle and make sure it is still there at 8500rpm in 3rd gear. Most people only check it at idle, which means very little.

This is really an autocross car. Racing Beat sway bar, Suspension Techniques springs and Tokico shocks.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 10:57 PM
  #6  
SilverRocket's Avatar
EliteHardcoreCannuckSquad
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,266
Likes: 0
From: Ontario, Canada
Holy ****!!!!!!!!

Beautiful man, just beautiful!!!!
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 11:10 PM
  #7  
REVHED's Avatar
Hunting Skylines
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 4
From: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Nice work!

BTW, are you running the RB muffler as well or something more free flowing?
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 01:08 AM
  #8  
thorin's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 514
Likes: 1
From: vancouver
200+ fwhp.... :O
its carbed I notice.

perhaps a silly noobish question here, but is carbing the only way to get more fuel/air mixture into the motor? is there a fuel injected way to serious power on a 13b?
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 03:42 AM
  #9  
REVHED's Avatar
Hunting Skylines
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 4
From: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Originally posted by thorin
200+ fwhp.... :O
its carbed I notice.

perhaps a silly noobish question here, but is carbing the only way to get more fuel/air mixture into the motor? is there a fuel injected way to serious power on a 13b?
The most powerful n/a rotaries are all fuel injected. This is due to the precise tuning available with efi as well as the fact there are no venturis to restrict airflow. The best designs incorporate slide throttle bodies for even less restriction and the Lemans car even had variable length intake runners.

You don't necessarily have to spend big money though. A good way of doing it is to run an IDA Weber manifold topped off with IDA style throttle bodies. Fairly cheap and easy to setup and will **** over any carb system.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 04:47 AM
  #10  
TheTwinTurboRX-7's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 493
Likes: 0
From: Raymond, ME / New Orleans, LA
hmm, does a stockport 12a with turbo count, if so I should be in the 13's soon I hope, very very high 13's but there none the less, with some luck and maybe a prayer, and even then I am not sure, guess there will only be one way to find out
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 07:34 AM
  #11  
dvcn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Thanks!

thorin-
Not dyno'd but mathematically it is in the 205hp range at the flywheel. Nothing spectacular.

The best current way to get air/fuel to the engine is with a stand alone ems, aftermarket manifold and throttle body(s). Most people go carb'd due to economics.

The manifold and carb I am running is a used off the shelf Racing Beat Dellorto setup. The jetting is Racing Beat standard 13B spec. I got the entire setup for $225 a few years ago. It is cheap, light and reliable. Rebuild kits are cheap and plentiful.

This isn't meant to reopen the carb vs efi debate for the thousandth time but...... a carb can be tuned for the same maximum horsepower as efi, given equal intake tract flow characteristics. Efi can be perfectly tuned over the entire curve, giving a better powerband and drivability. As it applies to my car, spending $2k on a real efi system vs the way the Dellorto sits right now, it would pick up only a few tenths of a second in the 1/4 mi at best. For less than $2k I can add a blow through turbo system.

Aftermarket carb vs stock efi? No contest, I'll take a Holley, Webber or Dellorto over stock. Just to give you an idea, this motor is still pulling at 9500rpm(which 'accidentally' happens at the autocross more than I like to admit). At the 1/4mi track I shift at 8200-8500rpm depending upon what gear it is. I haven't seen a stock efi'd car that has good upper end power, which is where NA rotaries generally make power.

It's all about bang for the buck.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 11:26 AM
  #12  
mperformance's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 914
Likes: 0
From: far away
r u you still using factory metal apex seals?

I'm very impressed
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 11:48 AM
  #13  
dvcn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Texas
The engine is stock. Never opened up or rebuilt. It has somewhere around 100k miles on it.

Since we opened the carb/efi can of worms, here's another. I removed the 6 port valves and actuators. Torque? I don't know. With my regular 205/60-14 street tires, I can idle in first or second gear, stand on the gas and it accelerates rapidly until the tires start spinning somewhere around 5-6K rpm! I admit that the Racing Beat aluminum flywheel has a lot to do with this.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2003 | 05:37 PM
  #14  
Siraniko's Avatar
RX for fun
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 25
From: Socal
craig,
youre the man!!!!! good job.

mel
Reply
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 06:25 AM
  #15  
dvcn's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Mr. Mel!-
I saw you and your car in that Japanese RX-7 magazine! Very cool.

Email me directly so we can catch up. Looks like you have the 77 RX-3SP now?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Shainiac
Single Turbo RX-7's
12
Jul 17, 2019 02:20 PM
eplusz
General Rotary Tech Support
15
Oct 7, 2015 04:04 PM
mikewoodkozar
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
7
May 25, 2005 08:23 AM
coldy13
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
21
Feb 25, 2003 08:32 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:35 PM.