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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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hey guys,
I've been searching in the First generation archives for more info on how to carb a GSL-SE. I just wanted to know if I'm searching incorrectly. Every time I search for something I almost always seem to find it but, this has totally owned me.
Do any of you know where I can read up on this topic. Someone please point me in the right direction.I'm starting to think my searching skills suck.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Why would you want to put a carb onto an SE?
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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i know its a downgrade but its a long story..
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Intake, carb, both of your choice. I would replace the FI pump with a carb rated one, then you need an fpr and fpg.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Yeah it's pretty straightforward to go TO a carb. Going from carb to FI is tougher.

Trochoid pretty much summed it up. Select a carb, get a 13b intake manifold for it, bolt the sucker on, then get a fuel pump, pressure regulator and gauge to go with it. Rig up your throttle cable and OMP lines (or run premix) and call it a day.

Guys, if I'm missing anything, lemme know!

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Yah, your gonna want to plug the injector holes and cleanup the wiring so it wont cause any problems.

Sidedraft upper manifolds are available so that the SE lower intake is retained..This could keep the 6 ports operating if that is of interest to you!
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:09 AM
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thanks guys,
after some time looking at prices I've decided on going with a side draft setup.
I'm gonna use the upper manifold from racing beat, dellorto carb(I'm not sure on either 45 or 48),Aeromotive FPG,Aeromotive 2-Port FPR and the racing beat fuel injection plug kit and havent decided on fuel pump yet.
I found this the only way appropriate for me. After seeing the price of an IDA setup and all...
besides, I'm not really trying to go fast, I'll do that once I'm more knowledgeable
and economically fit

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Lol, if you pull this off, we demand pics and info, because as you said it doesn't come up here often, and you sure seem to have a handle now on where you want to go with it.

Jon
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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wait, what
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Racing Beat doesnt sell the Dellorto setup anymore and it only came in 48 for our cars. you goingto have to get a used one off of here or ebay. then i would get a rebuild kit for it. and if the dell wasnt setup for a rotary then your going to need to get jets and those are kinda scarce. i would probly get a weber. you can still get used dellortos setup for rotary engines its just that the parts are getting more rare.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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so they dont sell the upper manifold piece or did you mean the kit?
i was looking at this


would that work with a dellorto?

i was planning on calling rotary shack for a carb...
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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I think he meant the carb. That upper will work with any 48mm weber like carb (Dellorto, Weber DCOE, Mikuni). If you get a Dell, get the rebuild kit from http://www.dellorto.com (its in the UK but they take paypal, ask me how I know), it only takes less than 2 weeks to get it to you and it will have all of the parts you need. Also make sure its a RB Dellorto otherwise don't get it. See this page for info on setups for various Dell configs www.gruntled.com/Dellorto.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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would the upper piece work with a weber 45?

sorry for my ignorance, i had to ask.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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yes the upper wil work a weber. the only reason i say go with weber is there are less and less webers around.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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HAHA, man your gonna confuse this guy to no end....

I think he meant there are less and less dellortos around...


Webers on the other hand are much more common.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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lol, ok
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I'm also doing this for the time being in my GS, until my project engine is built and I have the Haltech I've been dreaming of. I got the manifold from RB, and it may not concern you but I've got to take a die grinder to mine. It desperately needs gasket matched, parting lines are very apparent with excess casting flash, and the dividers between the sec. and aux ports to main ports could use some smoothing out. I'm trying to get the most power I can from a N/A SE engine in the mean time with the parts I already have, so this bothers me. You may not feel the same way about it...

Also, get the vibration damper mounting kit for the Weber. I can't remember the exact name of it, but it's two o-ringed spacers that mate the carb to the manifold to keep from sloshing the fuel in the float bowl around so much. You'll also have to make your own rubber-isolated mount for the front of the carb (connected to the engine) for them to work at their peak performance. The kit's not a necessity, but it's a lot better than having to scrape gasket material from your carb and intake when you have to remove one or the other, and the o-rings are re-usable. It's also pretty inexpensive, check out redlineweber.com (I'm pretty sure), it's where I got my kit.

If you haven't already ordered your upper intake manifold, make sure you get the UIM to LIM gasket with it. It's cheap and you need it to insure leak-free operation, even if your current gasket comes off in one piece or stays on the LIM. Gasket material is only designed to be compressed once. After it's compressed the material doesn't conform to slight irregularities like it did before, possibly leaking or becoming a potential for failure. Six or seven dollars now will save you a bigger headache and more expense down the road...

Good luck with your project!

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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I'll make sure to get that gasket and thanks for the advice
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