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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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ground control vs. g-force engineering

does anyone know anything about g-force engineering's coil over setup?

how do these compair with that of ground control?
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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I believe that Jim Susko at G-Forces uses Ground Control perches and other parts except for the springs. He uses Hypercoils which are great. I would pick up the G-Force set up manual first through. The $75 I spent on my suspension.

I think that G-Force is the place to buy from because he is still into first gens. Ground Control is busy with other lines than mazda first gens.
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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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I've got the g-force manual. Jim Susko knows what he is talking about. He can make a 1st gen handle like a true race car. His does 1.3g's in a corner! Go for g-force just get the manual first.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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you donot , by any chance, want to scan that manual up, do you?

i have been wanting to get it, but donot have the 75$
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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NO! Spend the money for the manual.

If you can't spend $75 for the manual, you can't afford to modify your suspension.

I say go G-force all the way.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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The last information I have sez that to be legal in Pro7 you have to get most of your suspension bits from ground control. Just one more thing to consider.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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One of the agreements that you have with Jim Susko when you buy his manual is that you do not copy it and redistribute it for free. Just because there aren't any police watching doesn't mean I'll copy it. So no I won't.

Most of Jim's mods are aimed at competing in Solo II, IT, and EP. They aren't even the greatest thing for street use unless you like driving a very low car with a very stiff rough riding suspension setup, but it will turn good!
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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I haven't run the G-Force setup, but I've found that my GC coilover setup is all I will ever need. I am extremely happy with it. Oh yeah, it's on the GSL-SE.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by peejay
NO! Spend the money for the manual.

If you can't spend $75 for the manual, you can't afford to modify your suspension.
the situation is that in a month or two i will have the money (waiting on an insurance settlement), and i am trying to finish compiling the information that i know to find the right setup for my uses (i think i have it now)..

i was more or less joking about getting a free copy of the manual. i am going to buy it once i can.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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Yeah I've talked on the phone with JIm at G-Force, he is a very knowledgable man on 1st gen suspension. I would definitely recommend him.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Can anyone tell me the procedure for installing the coil-over kits? Is it a very straight forward thing, or is it complicated? Anyone got any photos of the finished product?

Thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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it's 5 or 6 bolts and nuts you have to take off. It should be done in couple of hours. Afterwards you will need a alignment as well.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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How is it done though?

Do you slip the threaded collar over the stock strut, to rest on the lower spring perch? Or is there more to it.

I'm just curious. It is something I'd like to do soonish. I'm very interested in having an excellent suspension setup.

Also, do GC or G-Force ship overseas?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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You take out the strut, cut off the stock spring perch and weld on the 2 1/2" spring perch. Jim at G-Force suggest that you weld the perch such that the bottem of your 8" spring can be adjusted to sit 9" from the bottom of the strut.

I am sure that Jim will ship overseas but I would just by the manual from him. Then buy the parts local because overseas shipping will kill you.
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Old Oct 17, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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gForce / Jim Susko

Jim is a great guy and knowledgable. He is an enthusiast / engineer first, and runs the business more as a passion than anything else. I race against him regularly, and run his TriLink / Panhard / Springs.

Last race, a competitor hit me, and a mount for the Panhard broke. Jim towed my car back to gForce World Headquarters (his house), fixed it, and back to the track that night so I could race on Sunday. All for the price of gas and a meal from Wendy's.

He gets my business whenever possible.

Rich
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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You can see complete pics of the GC front end and G-Force rear on my personal page here:

http://members.cardomain.com/7heaven
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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here are a couple pics of my install. 4 & 9 show you more what you're looking for

http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0004.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0009.jpg

others....
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0001.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0002.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0003.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0005.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0006.jpg
http://www.digitex.net/ecarter/pics/DSCN0008.jpg
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