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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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its called water remover, it will make ur car run smooth for like 20-30 minutes, autozone sells it for like 2.50, its like flourescent green. all it is is ethyl acohol, which will remove water from the fuel, hence lower hydrocarbons. must be timed right tho, or it wont work.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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If its not supose to have and EGR and the guy is telling you it does than just go to another guy. Like I said, it say it right under the hood on the vaccum routing or the emissions label.

I dont work in Vallejo, I work in Napa. If u still wanna bring it let me know. anytime is ok for me 8-5 mon-fri. Ill give you the shop # if you want.

Aftermarket intercoolers might not make emissions go up, but the are illegal on the Visual.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by piercdawg

Aftermarket intercoolers might not make emissions go up, but the are illegal on the Visual.
Aftermarket intercoolers on OEM turbochargers are legal.
You better check your smog check inspection manual again buddy.

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Old May 27, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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^ Unless you state where you are getting your information it is safe to assume you are wrong and aftermarket intercoolers are not legal unless they have a California Air Resource Board exemption sticker.

Please state your sources.

Thanks.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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GTR aftermarket IC are illegal unless they have an OE #. Basically anything from the air filter past the cat is illegal to mod if it has anything to do with air. Most aftermarket IC do not have all the proper connections to hook up to the smog pump and recirculate the air from the BOV.

Trust me I got a ticket for my Greddy FMIC. You will get a citation #27150 B (modified emissions)
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Old May 27, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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If you have your smog check license, you should have your smog check manual.


Check under Appendix K-4

Items that are not of concern as long as the required emmisions controls are connected and functioning. (NO Executive Order number is needed)

If the intercooler has mounting for proper equipment, its legal. If you buy a kit and it doesn't have connections, its obviously illegal and its modifed.

Its entirely up to the owner if they want to actually and try to make it legal or buy an intercooler kit that has the proper connections.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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The thing is that there are no IC kits that have the smog connections for our cars, so therefore they are all illegal. There are kits for other cars that are legal but none for our cars. The older Greddy and HKS kits had OE#'s and smog connections but not anymore.

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Old May 29, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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show me oe stock number on stock intercooler
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Old May 29, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by piercdawg
Well Anyafter Market Inter Cooler Is Illegal If It Doesnt Have Carb #s.
As others have pointed out - this is incorrect.

So long as the turbos are OEM, the intercooler is irrelevant. I had my FD failed due to non-stock intercooler (M2 medium) and I questioned them on it. They didn't want to argue so I went home and did some searching. To the shop's credit, they did the same and called me back later in the day and had me bring the car back in and passed it - I also saw first-hand the page in the book referring to this particular rule.

There aren't any smog connectors on the intercooler - they're all on the intake box. Again, my FD has the M2 intake which has hookups for both the relief valves and they passed it.

There's a thread somewhere here on the forum also with a pdf of the page/clause.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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piercdawg u got my pm?
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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sferrett
As others have pointed out - this is incorrect.

So long as the turbos are OEM, the intercooler is irrelevant. I had my FD failed due to non-stock intercooler (M2 medium) and I questioned them on it. They didn't want to argue so I went home and did some searching. To the shop's credit, they did the same and called me back later in the day and had me bring the car back in and passed it - I also saw first-hand the page in the book referring to this particular rule.

There aren't any smog connectors on the intercooler - they're all on the intake box. Again, my FD has the M2 intake which has hookups for both the relief valves and they passed it.

There's a thread somewhere here on the forum also with a pdf of the page/clause.

HAHA, ok I'm done arguing about intercoolers. 1st of all, you cant MAKE anything legal. It has to be boughten legal with carb #s. Believe what you want. If you bring your **** to me, I'll fail your *** in the blink of an eye with no argument. I've already proven my point.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GTR
If you have your smog check license, you should have your smog check manual.


Check under Appendix K-4

Items that are not of concern as long as the required emmisions controls are connected and functioning. (NO Executive Order number is needed)

If the intercooler has mounting for proper equipment, its legal. If you buy a kit and it doesn't have connections, its obviously illegal and its modifed.

Its entirely up to the owner if they want to actually and try to make it legal or buy an intercooler kit that has the proper connections.
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So r u saying that u can use an aftermarket intercooler that bolt in the stock mounting, (top mount), uses the stock inlets from the turbo & to the throttle body, & has all the ports for the hose hook ups? What would be the point of that? a stock intercooler is just as efficient.

This is all rediculous.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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I can't believe people are still asking this clown questions.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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what does it take to make a jdm engine pass smog..
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Old May 30, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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It be of vintage '93 '94 or '95
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Old May 30, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Getting back to this guy's question (which I don't think anybody answered):

Originally Posted by UNDISPUTED_FB
ok look, i been in the car game probably since u were in diapers. my car was originally sold in texas, bben in california since 89, and yet has to have an egr, yet everyone i go to says i need on,and i know emissions, i take parts off all the time, and yes i know what i take off. so why is it that i all of a fucken sudden need an egr, no one can explain it to me, not even the ref!!!!, i can school the on it, but yet all i get is" you need an egr". so i say : fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk yoooooooooooooouuuuuuuuu" and go to my smog guy. me----> <--- the carb assosciation
some (or maybe all?) years of 1st gens had two different versions of emission controls: California and Federal (49-state). If your car was originally from Texas, then it came with the Federal emission controls, not the CA emission controls. Apparently the EGR is one of the differences.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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Exchange info? How good is that when it is false? Please provide me ANY real information regarding the State of California crushing a car because it had an engine swap.
A judge crushed my FB cos it had a B16 swap. He called it a crime against nature.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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A judge crushed my FB cos it had a B16 swap. He called it a crime against nature.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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If your car is a gross polluter could you ever get it changed back to regular, I have heard yes if a ref inspects it and i have heard no from a smog tech before, they said once its labeled a gross. theres nothing you can do but smog it every year, what is the truth
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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That information can be found on the CA DMV website
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fc3stech
If your car is a gross polluter could you ever get it changed back to regular, I have heard yes if a ref inspects it and i have heard no from a smog tech before, they said once its labeled a gross. theres nothing you can do but smog it every year, what is the truth
Once your labeled a gross polluter the car has to be smogged by a ref or a Gold sheild smog station. Once it passes smog its not a gross poluter anymore, but.... it has to be smogged every year for the next 5 years.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pinkrx7
what does it take to make a jdm engine pass smog..

You cant really make a jdm engine get reffed. I think the differences are so minor that a ref couldnt tell. As long as it was a S5. If its an S4 it becomes a little more difficult cause of no EGR. But in a S5 a ref cant really tell the difference. The fuel rails are different but I dont think they will notice that. As long as everything is the way its supose to be I think that it could pass without the ref knowing it was a JDM engine.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Does anyone have a link to the FULL list of smog regulations?

I have been searching for the smog rules in Cali.

So "bump" to this thread to see if anyone has a link to a website with all the info.

I have read all the vehicle code sites.
I have googled the CA smog laws to no avail
I spent 3 days looking for answers, maybe I am not using the right terms.


Here is the deal;
I want an 86-88 FC to strip.
But that includes stripping a lot out of the engine bay too
I am not looking to make it a polluter, but I will be making big changes to the intake. So I want to find a website the details ALL the smog rules, do's, and don'ts for each model year.









Either that or I am gonna buy a seperate engine to put in when smog time comes. But then I still need to make sure it (the modded engine) will pass a visual in case a cop wants to look under the hood.
I am not trying to fudge the rules, just stretch them as much as I can legally.

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Old May 1, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Try going here:

http://www.bar.ca.gov/
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