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Old 11-19-05, 05:18 PM
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PP side/center plate intake port filling?

When preparing the side plates(housings) and center plate(housing) when building a PP engine, is it important to fill the original intake ports with devcon or similar, or can you leave them empty?

I have seen engines just using a blanking plate, what is the advantage of filling the ports? If the ports are empty, will a slight vacuum occur as the rotor passes over the ports? Or is it to reduce the likely-hood of unwanted air leaks on the intake stroke?

Or have I missed the mark altogether?
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Old 11-19-05, 05:59 PM
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From what i have read on this forum and on nopistons.com, filling the intakeports creates less turbulence around the portarea.
There is a reason that even Mazda fills them, im in the process of making a PP motor and plan on filling them with Devcon aluminum thingie
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No problems with JB Weld, although at the volumes required, Devcon might actually be cheaper.

Some people leave 'em open, doesn't seem to hurt things much.
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The disadvantage of filling the ports is obviousely that the filler might break lose. It has happened before....

As a side note anyone knows if a PP with sideports has been attempted. I know about the cross or semi pp with smaller pp ports but haven't heard about anyone ever attemptiong a full PP with the sideports in parallel.
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I'd immagine that filling the side ports would give you a much better seal for the side seals and longer seal life. I can't see how a full PP motor could run with side ports too, it would be way too much port and if the motor would run, it would probably not make much power and run like crap.
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Originally Posted by Black91n/a
I'd immagine that filling the side ports would give you a much better seal for the side seals and longer seal life. I can't see how a full PP motor could run with side ports too, it would be way too much port and if the motor would run, it would probably not make much power and run like crap.

It is assumed that the side ports would be covered off at the ends if they were left unfilled.

And if you fill, you do NOT go NEAR the sealing surface of the housing, in case the stuff expands and the rotor starts chewing on it. RB recommends 1/8" from the surface. I went 1/4-1/2". No kill like overkill.
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I use Devcon Liquid Steel B
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Some of the Aussies like to weld the side ports up and then have the housings resurfaced. As long as you are using a simlar material and are careful, that might be a nice way to do it.
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I wonder why the factory housings are filled from the factory and why they just didnt chose to not mill the port in the surface.
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I used devcon aluminum liquid for the rotor housings and plastic steel putty for the irons.
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