Smoked a Carrera S...
06-01-05, 02:07 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by legal-z
somebody please raise the flag on this one. the chances of you beating a gt2 even with a monkey driving are slim to none and the chances of you "walking" a gt3 or a 2005 carrera s are also slim to none. i doubt you are running low 12's with that rwhp. and getting you from a roll would be much easier than having to launch the car at the strip. you may have beat an older, i.e. 96-98 carrera s, but i don't believe they had h.i.d headlights. i posted some test results below so you can see what you claim you are "walking".
Porsche 911 Carrera S
C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 1.5
40 mph: 2.0
50 mph: 3.1
60 mph:4.1
70 mph: 5.1
80 mph: 6.8
90 mph: 8.2
100 mph: 10.2
110 mph: 12.2
120 mph: 14.4
130 mph: 17.7
140 mph: 21.1
150 mph: 26.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 7.0
50-70 mph: 7.2
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.6 sec @ 112 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 179 mph
C&D on the GT2:
the GT2 literally bounds down the road, hitting 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and blowing through the quarter-mile in 12 seconds flat at 121 mph. Top speed is limited not by drag but by engine revs as the GT2 eagerly spins the tach to redline in sixth gear at 194 mph.
Porsche 911 Carrera S
C/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 1.5
40 mph: 2.0
50 mph: 3.1
60 mph:4.1
70 mph: 5.1
80 mph: 6.8
90 mph: 8.2
100 mph: 10.2
110 mph: 12.2
120 mph: 14.4
130 mph: 17.7
140 mph: 21.1
150 mph: 26.4
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.0
Top-gear acceleration, 30-50 mph: 7.0
50-70 mph: 7.2
Standing 1/4-mile: 12.6 sec @ 112 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 179 mph
C&D on the GT2:
the GT2 literally bounds down the road, hitting 60 mph in 3.8 seconds and blowing through the quarter-mile in 12 seconds flat at 121 mph. Top speed is limited not by drag but by engine revs as the GT2 eagerly spins the tach to redline in sixth gear at 194 mph.
However, the GT2 stuff sounds "odd" given the significant power to weight ratio it enjoys. GT2s are good for mid/high 11 sec quarter miles (faster than his set up).
See ya,
-Matt
06-01-05, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
wait, what does a GT2 or GT3 have to do with this? Unless GT2 or GT3 is another name for Carrera S or something...
it was a good kill post until he brought up the comments: he walked GT2's and GT3's".
06-01-05, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by arghx
wait, what does a GT2 or GT3 have to do with this? Unless GT2 or GT3 is another name for Carrera S or something...
i think and dont quote me on this but the GT2, GT3, and GT4 are different types of the carrera line..i know the GT2 is the most powerful, its twin turbo..its an awesome machine..
06-01-05, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
i think and dont quote me on this but the GT2, GT3, and GT4 are different types of the carrera line..i know the GT2 is the most powerful, its twin turbo..its an awesome machine..
06-02-05, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 855m0n0
There is no way on earth that a 324rwhp RX-7 is going to walk a GT3 on the highway. My car is single turbo GT3540R w/16psi and over 400rwhp and I dont walk GT3s on the highway. I can hang with them, but not walk them. They have 477bhp and weight 3200lbs or so.
Beating a Carrara S is believeable with your setup. 3200lbs and 355bhp. A 325rwhp RX7 should be able to beat it. However, I would not think it would be a major kill just a car lenght or so from 60-120 pull. Carrara S regularly put down 320rwhp on dynos. So your car would only have a 200-300lbs advantage and similary HP.
Beating a Carrara S is believeable with your setup. 3200lbs and 355bhp. A 325rwhp RX7 should be able to beat it. However, I would not think it would be a major kill just a car lenght or so from 60-120 pull. Carrara S regularly put down 320rwhp on dynos. So your car would only have a 200-300lbs advantage and similary HP.
I think this guy just confused his Porsches when he said he walked GT2's.
06-04-05, 06:54 PM
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Wow, i havent checked back in a while......
I guess i'm wrong on the GT3, but i'm pretty damn sure about the GT2...I didnt race it myself but i was on the highway with them. Another FD running similar setup and about 14 psi killed it to 160 mph by id say about 3 cars. I know cause i was following behind and had to drop out cause i was overheating(this was on the way to rotorfest 2 years ago). I know it was a GT2 because just like the Carrera S, thats what the batch on the rear of the car said. The Carrera S seemed about as fast as a Evo. The GT2 had a mean sounding exhaust and it moved but I am fairly confident i could have walked him or at the very least hang with it.
I can only post what i've done! If it was the real deal, great...and why not, I really dont see them rebadging their 911s.
Hey, who knows...I might actually know how to drive also.
I guess i'm wrong on the GT3, but i'm pretty damn sure about the GT2...I didnt race it myself but i was on the highway with them. Another FD running similar setup and about 14 psi killed it to 160 mph by id say about 3 cars. I know cause i was following behind and had to drop out cause i was overheating(this was on the way to rotorfest 2 years ago). I know it was a GT2 because just like the Carrera S, thats what the batch on the rear of the car said. The Carrera S seemed about as fast as a Evo. The GT2 had a mean sounding exhaust and it moved but I am fairly confident i could have walked him or at the very least hang with it.
I can only post what i've done! If it was the real deal, great...and why not, I really dont see them rebadging their 911s.
Hey, who knows...I might actually know how to drive also.
06-04-05, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AMRAAM4
Reading this post, and the link below as well
https://www.rx7club.com/ne-rx-7-forum-30/has-ever-happened-you-428947/
I have to say your credibility is fading fast with me. First you are "walking" Porsche's...then you are losing to 400hp cars you hang out with in some parking lot and are asking faster FDs to come help kill them....and now in the link I posted you have a wheel fall off while driving down the road and there is only "scratches underneath the car" but you aren't going to go after the shop????
https://www.rx7club.com/ne-rx-7-forum-30/has-ever-happened-you-428947/
I have to say your credibility is fading fast with me. First you are "walking" Porsche's...then you are losing to 400hp cars you hang out with in some parking lot and are asking faster FDs to come help kill them....and now in the link I posted you have a wheel fall off while driving down the road and there is only "scratches underneath the car" but you aren't going to go after the shop????
I am not the best driver, nor do I have the faster car out there. I know what i can do and whats more important, I know i'm not gonna win every time but when i looses i'm not afraid to admit it.
06-05-05, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellow R1
A 2800 lbs RX-7 with 324 RWHP is roughly 390 BHP, assuming a 17% drivetrain loss. So, his RX-7 weighs 12% less & develops 10% more Hp. Its simple math, the Carrera S comes up short.
However, the GT2 stuff sounds "odd" given the significant power to weight ratio it enjoys. GT2s are good for mid/high 11 sec quarter miles (faster than his set up).
See ya,
-Matt
However, the GT2 stuff sounds "odd" given the significant power to weight ratio it enjoys. GT2s are good for mid/high 11 sec quarter miles (faster than his set up).
See ya,
-Matt
06-06-05, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by legal-z
how about that extra cog in the carrera s and other factors such as drive ratios, etc. i'm just looking at the numbers not self-quoted hp figures. i still think he loses to a new s.
I talk a lot of ****, but who doenst...you say i'd loose, I say i'd win. If you know anyone with a Carrera S thats willing to open it up, just let me know. I'll be more than happy to do a repeat.
Why do you guys think these cars are unbeatable??? My FD was a piggish 3050lbs and made a little under 300hp(@12psi) at the rears and a bad clutch and stilll managed a 13.2 @ 109. And thats without beating the **** out of it(no power shifts, hard launch or even a burnout). I also ran it at 10 psi which only got me 280rwhp and got 13.4 - 13.8 all day. At this point i did run a white Carrera S from a stop. I screwed up the launch cause i didnt think he was going for it. I slowly got the carlength back and was on his bumper and slowly gaining when he shut down at about 110mph. If he had stayed on it i would most defiantly had passed him.
06-06-05, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
yeah i know, i meant to say carrera 4
Question:
Arent the GT2 and GT3 sort of what the R1/R2 are to the FDs??? I can almost swear that one of those is essentially a production race car where all thats needed to go racing is to remove the interior and emission control equip.
anyone???
06-06-05, 01:03 PM
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The GT2 is a turbo 477bhp car. It is a very fast street car that runs 11s out of the box. It is basically the big brother of the turbo model.
The GT3 is a N/A car that is very close to a race car. It is light and is easily converted to a full race car. It runs 12s out of the box and handles exceptionally well.
The GT3 is a N/A car that is very close to a race car. It is light and is easily converted to a full race car. It runs 12s out of the box and handles exceptionally well.
06-06-05, 05:17 PM
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I could see a good FD walking past a poorly driven GT3. But the only way to smoke a GT2 is if its turbos are smoking sick like half of the FD fleet.
The GT3 normal assperated 3.6L @ 380 Hp/ 3040 lbs is the Porsche spec racer car. Just throw in a cage (r order from factory) and go.
The GT2 twin turbo is more for private entry into leMan and such. $200k base price, plus race prep.
The R1/R2 concept follows the old Porsche Club sport program of pay a little more (ha my R2 package was a 4G option) and we will delete things for you.
Porsche now offers the GT3 as a plus power/ same weight/ reduced options (fancy paint 4G/ ceramic brakes 8G only priced options) car for only 46% more than base.
)
The GT3 normal assperated 3.6L @ 380 Hp/ 3040 lbs is the Porsche spec racer car. Just throw in a cage (r order from factory) and go.
The GT2 twin turbo is more for private entry into leMan and such. $200k base price, plus race prep.
The R1/R2 concept follows the old Porsche Club sport program of pay a little more (ha my R2 package was a 4G option) and we will delete things for you.
Porsche now offers the GT3 as a plus power/ same weight/ reduced options (fancy paint 4G/ ceramic brakes 8G only priced options) car for only 46% more than base.
)
06-06-05, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Julian
I could see a good FD walking past a poorly driven GT3. But the only way to smoke a GT2 is if its turbos are smoking sick like half of the FD fleet.
The GT3 normal assperated 3.6L @ 380 Hp/ 3040 lbs is the Porsche spec racer car. Just throw in a cage (r order from factory) and go.
The GT2 twin turbo is more for private entry into leMan and such. $200k base price, plus race prep.
The R1/R2 concept follows the old Porsche Club sport program of pay a little more (ha my R2 package was a 4G option) and we will delete things for you.
Porsche now offers the GT3 as a plus power/ same weight/ reduced options (fancy paint 4G/ ceramic brakes 8G only priced options) car for only 46% more than base.
)
The GT3 normal assperated 3.6L @ 380 Hp/ 3040 lbs is the Porsche spec racer car. Just throw in a cage (r order from factory) and go.
The GT2 twin turbo is more for private entry into leMan and such. $200k base price, plus race prep.
The R1/R2 concept follows the old Porsche Club sport program of pay a little more (ha my R2 package was a 4G option) and we will delete things for you.
Porsche now offers the GT3 as a plus power/ same weight/ reduced options (fancy paint 4G/ ceramic brakes 8G only priced options) car for only 46% more than base.
)
All those numbers are not wheel hp btw! sure theres not much of a drivetrain loss on them, but there is.
I'll have to rig up something and get it on Video!
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