My 03 Cobra vs Goodfellafd3s 93 Rx-7 (Video)
08-08-06, 05:53 PM
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My 03 Cobra vs Goodfellafd3s 93 Rx-7 (Video)
So this has got to be the 3rd time we've lined up and the result is always the same. After some people talking smack in the other cobra vs fd thread earlier this week, I laid down the challenge. We did like 5-6 highways pulls from a 2nd gear roll. The first run I immediatley got a car+ on him and he started to fall back really fast. I think he got mad and let off. I let him catch up and we lined up again. Same thing. I immediately get a car and continue to pull away as we wound out the gears. I usually don't bother to look at the speedo during racing but I think we got to about 130 or so. We get off to make a u-turn. Rich pulls along side. Rich is pissed. Rich turns up boost. <a href='http://media.putfile.com/rich-mad-2'>Click here to watch 'rich-mad-2'</a>
08-08-06, 05:56 PM
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Sorry for the horrible quality of the video. I took it on my camera phone with one hand while driving with the other. I had to drop the phone in order to shift hence I was shifting very slow. I think he was running aobut 16 psi that race.
Last edited by IRPerformance; 08-08-06 at 06:09 PM.
08-08-06, 07:52 PM
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i am shocked by the outcome!!! is your 12.2 @118mph indicative of your current setup?
if it is then i am sure u can understand why people talked "smack" in the last thread as thats stock twins numbers. but i am guessing that your sig is not up to date given that u just pulled a car that could be trapping around 125mph.
either way thks for the vid....
if it is then i am sure u can understand why people talked "smack" in the last thread as thats stock twins numbers. but i am guessing that your sig is not up to date given that u just pulled a car that could be trapping around 125mph.
either way thks for the vid....
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08-08-06, 08:59 PM
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Matty, the 12.2 was my first time at the strip with the car pullied. Was also my first time trying out the mickey thompsons. I had something like 25 psi in them. I later learned that I should lower the tire pressure to about 16. I spun through the first 3 gears. I am confident that the car can easily get well into the 11s. Hmm whats different... Brembo brakes which must weigh more than stock, dynamat in the trunk, dual beam hids with 4 ballasts, about 20 lbs more muscle on me. Oh I'm experimenting with more timing now too
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08-08-06, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
Matty, the 12.2 was my first time at the strip with the car pullied. Was also my first time trying out the mickey thompsons. I had something like 25 psi in them. I later learned that I should lower the tire pressure to about 16. I spun through the first 3 gears. I am confident that the car can easily get well into the 11s. Hmm whats different... Brembo brakes which muist weigh more than stock, dynamat in the trunk, dual beam hids with 4 ballasts, about 20 lbs more muscle on me. Oh I'm experimenting with more timing now too
but i am not really talking about the 12.2 more so the trap speed. 118mph should be on par with a stock twin car. hmmm how do i say this...something aint adding up here. u sure rich gave it more boost?
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08-09-06, 01:48 AM
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again, this goes back to basic physics and rolling resistance...knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
08-09-06, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Improved FD
again, this goes back to basic physics and rolling resistance...knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
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08-09-06, 02:03 AM
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08-09-06, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Improved FD
again, this goes back to basic physics and rolling resistance...knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key
now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip
not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a ****?
run him from a dig...
i am still friggen shocked at the outcome of this. looking at trap speed that is posted it should be a no brainer that the fd should have won.
having been around car racing for over a decade it is pretty obvious to me that the true real and best way to compare twos cars performance is via their trap speed. it eliminates driver error/skill.
Last edited by matty; 08-09-06 at 07:22 AM.
08-09-06, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
That being said, I have been through both cars inside and out and there is no way an rx-7 is better in quality
the only car thats on par with the fd thats under 100k is the z06. that i am sure of.
that statement you made is false....u are comparing apples to oranges.
08-09-06, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
i couldnt disagree more. they went from a 2nd gear punch. thats hardily a high speed roll my friend and thats when the fd lost the race. he didnt lose it on the top end. did u watch the vid? 100rwhp is easily offset by the 1k lb difference. we arent talking about a 100mph punch are we?
i am still friggen shocked at the outcome of this. looking at trap speed that is posted it should be a no brainer that the fd should have won.
having been around car racing for over a decade it is pretty obvious to me that the true real and best way to compare twos cars performance is via their trap speed. it eliminates driver error/skill.
i am still friggen shocked at the outcome of this. looking at trap speed that is posted it should be a no brainer that the fd should have won.
having been around car racing for over a decade it is pretty obvious to me that the true real and best way to compare twos cars performance is via their trap speed. it eliminates driver error/skill.
08-09-06, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by rt turbo
well, i was too, but then i thought about it.. ive raced a 459 whp 03 cobra in my evo and it trapped 120 mph ( i still won the race by way of launch). if hes making 49xwhp, hes trapping higher than 120. id say around 123-124.
