My 03 Cobra vs Goodfellafd3s 93 Rx-7 (Video)
 

So this has got to be the 3rd time we've lined up and the result is always the same. After some people talking smack in the other cobra vs fd thread earlier this week, I laid down the challenge. We did like 5-6 highways pulls from a 2nd gear roll. The first run I immediatley got a car+ on him and he started to fall back really fast. I think he got mad and let off. I let him catch up and we lined up again. Same thing. I immediately get a car and continue to pull away as we wound out the gears. I usually don't bother to look at the speedo during racing but I think we got to about 130 or so. We get off to make a u-turn. Rich pulls along side. Rich is pissed. Rich turns up boost. <a href='http://media.putfile.com/rich-mad-2'>Click here to watch 'rich-mad-2'</a>

Sorry for the horrible quality of the video. I took it on my camera phone with one hand while driving with the other. I had to drop the phone in order to shift hence I was shifting very slow. I think he was running aobut 16 psi that race.

Good kill...How much boost were running Rich?

not enough

He said he was runnining 12-13 the first time, then like 15-16 the 2nd run thats on video.

What you said after the race was funny as hell! :rlaugh:

i am shocked by the outcome!!! is your 12.2 @118mph indicative of your current setup?

if it is then i am sure u can understand why people talked "smack" in the last thread as thats stock twins numbers. but i am guessing that your sig is not up to date given that u just pulled a car that could be trapping around 125mph.

either way thks for the vid....

Theres a lot of things I could say in this thread but Ill just leave it at nice kill

can't see the video

Must be the 80's apple 2 computers you guys are using in the shop. Try this http://media.putfile.com/rich-mad-2 Its a quicktime file.

Matty, the 12.2 was my first time at the strip with the car pullied. Was also my first time trying out the mickey thompsons. I had something like 25 psi in them. I later learned that I should lower the tire pressure to about 16. I spun through the first 3 gears. I am confident that the car can easily get well into the 11s. Hmm whats different... Brembo brakes which must weigh more than stock, dynamat in the trunk, dual beam hids with 4 ballasts, about 20 lbs more muscle on me. Oh I'm experimenting with more timing now too:)

yeah u def have a 11 second car.
but i am not really talking about the 12.2 more so the trap speed. 118mph should be on par with a stock twin car. hmmm how do i say this...something aint adding up here. u sure rich gave it more boost?

Nice kill! :) :icon_tup:

yea i can't see the video either, guess my quicktime isn't up to date. are you able to upload on streetfire?

ditto

again, this goes back to basic physics and rolling resistance...knowledge is power, ignorance is deadly

there is no way Rich, running about 385-390 hp at 16 psi (guessing) is going to keep up with a 490 hp car from a high speed roll...again (and I keep repeating this), horsepower and aerodynamics dominate the equation as you approach triple digits, weight is much less of a factor, and there is no way the aerodynamic advantage of an FD is going to make up for a 100 hp deficit...this is a no-brainer, I could have predicted the outcome before you even turned the key

now, race from a stop and see what happens! that should be a good race, because the light weight of the FD will pay major dividends, provided Rich knows how to launch his car, and I believe he does, based on his experience at the strip

not a very fair race at all, gloating that you beat someone in a highway roll when you are up 100+ hp is dumb....Mustangs are still incredible pos, they are hideous looking, and common as dog poop....I can make a VW bus go fast, too, but who gives a shit?

run him from a dig...

so update it

oh and the vid didn't work for me, either (stupid quicktime)

Big words there buddy. Read again. My CBR may hit 100 in 2nd gear but not either of these cars. This isn't a sport bike. Each run we started in 2nd gear which is about 40-50 mph. And guess what, my car runs all day every day. I don't have to re-tune for weather or altitude changes. I don't worry about overheating or getting bad gas. And if I detonate I back off on the timing. That being said, I have been through both cars inside and out and there is no way an rx-7 is better in quality. Both cars are what they are. Affordable fun cars that can be made fast relatively easily. If it makes you feel better we could line up and run. We could go from a dig. I won't even put my drag radials on.

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Good way of representing yourself by beating and bashing the 7.:molepoke: Good kill and good luck to you.

i couldnt disagree more. they went from a 2nd gear punch. thats hardily a high speed roll my friend and thats when the fd lost the race. he didnt lose it on the top end. did u watch the vid? 100rwhp is easily offset by the 1k lb difference. we arent talking about a 100mph punch are we?

i am still friggen shocked at the outcome of this. looking at trap speed that is posted it should be a no brainer that the fd should have won.

having been around car racing for over a decade it is pretty obvious to me that the true real and best way to compare twos cars performance is via their trap speed. it eliminates driver error/skill.

i wasnt gonna add my .02 on the which car is better dynamic to this topic but i mean come on. you have a one trick pony man. the FD is better than most in many differetn areas....not just straight line performance like your muscle car is.
the only car thats on par with the fd thats under 100k is the z06. that i am sure of.

that statement you made is false....u are comparing apples to oranges.

well, i was too, but then i thought about it.. ive raced a 459 whp 03 cobra in my evo and it trapped 120 mph ( i still won the race by way of launch). if hes making 49xwhp, hes trapping higher than 120. id say around 123-124.

yeah i agree....i think heshould be trapping above 120....my guess is 122mph. but i was just going off his posted trap.

Rich's car looks good...even when losing.