Herblenny

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I've been on this forum for many many years and I hope no one support this guy!

Read more about it on this thread..

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...&page=16&pp=15

Go all the way down.. ITs LONG!!!

snaponbrian500hp

Man I have been following your thread (amazing work by the way ) . And while I can see your frustration after waiting so long, I think you are taking this too far. You and Sonix had some crazy agreements worked out as it seems and like everyone did what they said. However your standards appear to be unreachable for SOnix in this case. Maybe you should of had your peices done by a more established and expensive company. It doesn't seem like you spared expenses anywhere else.

Its uncalled for to try to ruin this guy especially when he has received so much positive feedback from others.

Herblenny

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I understand what you are saying. I been following his career here on the forum. I also feel that its quite sad what he did to me. But if you continue on reading the thread I posted, He REALLY did screw me.. Especially how he sent a painted TAN panels and by sound of what he said on the emails, sold my promised CF panels/original black panels. And unlike what he said, I did pay him by parts and material costing me over $1000. Not to mention hours and hours of my time helping him.

And also, I just wanted my parts back 4 months ago.. finished or not. He just kept on delaying with excuses....

As stated in my post saturday morning.. Some people had good luck with Sonix7.. I on the other hand got loyally screwed and got con'd.

snaponbrian500hp

those last few pics of some of your peices do look pretty sorry. More so Sonix should of made you a higher priority since you could really make or break him. Good luck to you man...

Herblenny

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Thanks..

The admin have deleted the thread.. LOL!

But this is what I was typing just before admin deleted it...

I've decided to respond to some of Sonix7's earlier posts on this thread.. I didn't even read them when I was posting facts..

This is interesting.. So, I guess when he offered and insisted to do me the parts for FREE, he meant I had to PAY HIM IN CASH!!! And I guess he doesn't understand when he doesn't pay me for the shiftknob ($250+ shipping), the defi gauge ($120+shipping), 10 yards of CF ($400 or so but in his rate $1000), 1 set of R1 lip (retail around $100), 1 set of 99 spec lip ($100-$125+ shipping), etc etc can't be consider as "aledged $1000.00" as it wasn't cash.. Well, lets put it this way, If you paid me for those parts, I would give it right back as CASH! See the thing is, He offered to do these parts for FREE, insisted me to send as many parts (I told him full interior) and later, he kept asking me to track down parts and such.. I knew then he was up to something.. but I didn't mind and bought all those parts for him in TIMELY manner... OUT OF MY POCKET!!!


LOL! I'm sure everyone who read my other posts (with all the emails) would now know who lied. He used my 10 yards of CF that I bought him on other people's parts when he clearly stated that he will do my parts. Again, i have to bring back and say, Jason stated to me and insisted he will do my parts for "FREE". I felt bad from the beginning and compensated him as much as I can by helping him out with the process, tracking down parts, promoting his work, buying him parts for his car, buying materials, etc etc..


WOW! after reading this and he thinks I'm lying about things...
For those of you don't know much about Kev/CF. It was only material available when the CF shortage occured. I know, I was also buying them. I have a 2 yard at my house right now ($40/yard and not $100/yard as Jason stated). If he wants to add numbers, the time I've spent, money I spend sending parts to him because he "insisted", and all other things I've gave him, its way more than $1200 he says he would of charged..

Also, I talked to him in person and me and 20b 3rd gen were going to fly him over to do the overlay here in town for him and I. I was trying to help him make some money and speed up the process.. He quoted John (20b 3rd gen) at the time, $1300 or so to do ALL his interior.. which included the bins, rear quarter, dash, etc etc etc..

And again, He insisted and offered to do my WHOLE interior for FREE!!! I guess this was one of those scam you hear about ha??? People tell you FREE, and there is a catch at the end.. Which is, "I need more money from you!" and I'll send you nothing but crap and swap your parts for inferior parts... like I sent him black panels and he send me painted tan panels.. LOL!

DomFD3S

The thread isn't deleted. It is removed from public view though.

Currently debating if you want your thread restored, as a large part of your FD buildup is there. That and you could have your "vendor feedback" in this thread, as opposed to the FD buildup thread.

Herblenny

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Dom, if you could restore the build up thread and post #210 and on to this thread (from my post from yesterday morning), i would greatly appreciate it. I think the fellow 7 owners will learn something from my mistake....

RoughRex

LOL... I was almost to the last page in the other thread when it got deleted! From an outside perspective it looks to me like to put it bluntly... sonix7's mouth is writing checks that his *** can't cash. Putting myself in Phil's shoes... I can easily see how promise after promise of a quality item by x-date that never arrives would REALLY **** me off.

I can also see how if I was new to doing CF overlays it could be very frustrating to have someone with high standards and a deadline as a "customer." However, that is sure as hell no excuse.

Chances are this guy is NOT a bad guy and he probably HAS been busting his *** to churn this **** out for Phil. He just doesn't have a lot of experience and he got in over his head then got frustrated and let it blow all out of proportion. I think the best thing he could have done is admit that he srewed up royally early on and taken a step back and start over with some smaller projects for himself. Unfortunately, it seems to me like he would rather act like my wife and take any bit of criticism personally and dig his hole deeper by continuing to make promises.

As for putting this out in the open on Phil's part. It looks to me like he's kept a lid on it and been VERY forgiving for a looong time. The doors are the "straw that broke the camel's back." I can understand how this would **** off sonix7 but he kinda dug this hole himself.

And that's my 2cents... take it or leave it.

Herblenny

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I don't know if you read my response to Wanklin's post, but i spend past 1.25 years away from public forum, trying to work out this situation with Jason (sonix7). It wasnt until I recieved the tan panels that really put me over the edge..

I hope the admins will at least transfer the un-related build posts here so that others could read it.. otherwise, I made a pdf copy of my old threads via cache from my computer...

Herblenny

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I understand how you might see this and I think if you were in my situation, I think you would be quite pissed off as well... and go far as "bash" jason if this crap happened to you. Why, because I've spend hours and hours of trying to get this situation squared away outside of the forum (via hundreds of emails)... Hence you never heard about this until NOW! And if he would of spent those time emailing me, I say my parts could of been done several months earlier..

If you read some of the emails he sent me, he talked very high about the quality of his work and such. But truth was he couldn't take criticism and I knew he couldn't provide the quality of work he promised nor promised in timely manner. But i gave him chances and hope, and I emphasize HOPE, that when he tells me end of Dec 06 (less than 2 months ago) that he's finishing up and he'll have everything ready, I was hoping those parts at least would be in "great quality".... You have to remember, 1.5 years he's been doing the overlay and my parts were being worked on til End of Dec.. If this was my business and if i'd did this for 1.5 years, I sure do think I'll do a better job than he... And especially the persona WHO HELPED ME and If I insisted to help! Don't forget, he offered to do it for me, I did NOT ask him to do this for me!! And you think he'll get better and I should give him more time, I'm sorry Rob, you just don't understand what I've went thru..

But as stated earlier today, Its the fact that he kept on delaying sending my parts back, finished or not. And ultimately him giving me excuses after excuses why he couldn't send them out and lying about the small remainting parts being ready and sending me tan panels.

The Door situation was the kicker to this!

Herblenny

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Pics from other thread...

fikren

Phil,

I need that $1450.00 for that antenna you said you would send, that or I guess I could take 1500 in parts if that works out better. Get back to me.
Thanks
Jonathan

























J/K

travs92vr4

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Ha Ha

Herblenny

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Sure! I'll send you $1500 in interior pieces next week.. Its almost ready! wait, I'll send it to you in about a year. You wanted black right? I'll "Fresh them up", which means they are tan interior and Ill paint them in black, so the value of the parts will go WAY up You'll Love it when you get them!

Joking aside, since the admins aren't going to move or don't have much time, I'll start transfer some of the stuff here. The cliff note version..

Jason Evans, aka Sonix 7 have insisted and offered to do my parts for free after several hours of my talking to him and when I bought him and imported $250 dollar RX8 illuminated shiftknob and few parts.

I sent thim 2 BLACK door panels and 10 yards of Carbon Fiber sheets ($400+).

As ALL OF YOU could see, he stated in his email HE stated FREE. But I insisted to compensate him by giving him PARTS for his car, and MATERIALS for the overlay. And yes, He (Jason Evans aka sonix7) insisted me to send all the interior pieces and such.

Herblenny

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Jason posted this after I stated all the facts on the "hidden" thread.
I wrote this:
LOL! False claims?? LOL! Please use our justice system and do something about it! Let see what happens??

First, I stated the facts!! Do you see me making stuff up?? I quoted everything you said to me via email!! I didn't make A THING UP!! If you could prove to me that you did not email those things, I would retract! LOL! Also, Pictures don't lie?? You might lie about things but I have done nothing but help you in the past and this is what I get... Hmm.. Even until early this week, I thanked you for sending my parts out! But you screwed me! Sorry! Truth hurts and you brought this to yourself

By the way, I'm not slandering you.. Just providing facts.. And in a weird way, I think you are slandering me, calling me a lier and such.. when I'm actually providing you and everyone with facts.. There is a huge difference! And in a way, you con'd me.. Did you know what you did with the panels???

Do you need to see it again?? You falsified and tried to trick me... its called "con".

pics of the doors..
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=221206&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=221207&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=221208&stc=1

Herblenny

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I need to also comment about Jason's observation about how his overlay will NEVER LIFT like other wet layups..

As you could see from the very last email he sent me, HE himself said it lifted.. LOL! What a paradox

11 months later he tells me my panels lifted.. I still wanted the lifted panel. Its all for cosmetic purpose anyhow.. I guess he sold it to the other guy for $500 each.

mirabile

I am very surprised that I came across this thread today. First, Herblenny, you are a well respected forum member, whose opinions and posts I value. This is strange for me, because I have done over $1000 worth of business with Sonix at least, and personally I have never had any problems with him at all. He has gotten things done in a timely manner, and the quality of work is incredible. I consider myself somewhat of a carbon quality control expert, and the quality that he provides, at the price he offers, is really not offered anywhere else.

I hope this was your last option, and you felt this could not be worked out any other way. It seems to me you both have arguments here, and it would have served both of you to keep this out of the public view. Again, I dont think anyone here knows who to believe, but I hope you two can try to work this out. Ruining a business name on this forum is not something you should take lightly, and after seeing how much positive feedback he has, I really hope you tried your best to work it out.

In closing, I vouch for the work and customer service he has provided me, and it seems from his feedback this was a isolated result, and a disagreement between 2 people. I hope you two can work this out.
Just my.2 c.

fikren

Phil stated in his original post (which has disappeared) that while not being 100% satisfied with his work he more than likely would have just cut his loses and not said a word.
What threw him over the edge is the fact that he got screwed out of his two black door panels. The ones he sent to get covered were sold to another person and he (phil) ended up recieving two tan door panels that were painted black.
I could see the point from both sides and at first just figured that there was a misunderstanding by both parties an what was to be expected. I cannot however blame phil for wanting a "perfect" piece (which if you look at the photos he did not recieve" for a car that he would be showing at various events.
Now the part that sent phill "over the edge" is the fact that he got two door panels (which were not the ones he sent to be covered) back which were not covered in a cf/kevlar overlay but instead covered in black paint.
Like someone in the original post stated, he got door panels that are less desirable in the first place than the original black he sent but now even more undesirable and now about worthless since they have been ruined by being painted over.
-Jonathan

mirabile

1) A "perfect piece" is not possible when it comes to carbon fiber unless you pay a big company with the "big" machines to make you one, such as the factory that produced my body kit. That requires paying for molds, or finding a company that already made them. Phil was looking for a great deal, and found it with Sonix, who makes as close to perfect pieces as you can with the way he does the work.

I show my car at more then various events, and his quality is more then good enough.

2) The 2 panels. When you send in a piece to be carbon layered, you are not asking for your particular part back. You are simply trading it for a covered piece that could have been tan, purple or pink before it was carboned. So as far as I understand it, once the dispute became a problem, the panels that were probably going to be covered for phil, might have been completed, sold elsewhere and/or his panels might have been used in another job. Jason sent him an uncovered pair, most likely figuring that he would have them covered elsewhere.

I am curious what you would guess the cost of the panels that were painted would be if you were to buy a new pair?
Also, can you further explain why this work was supposed to be free? When it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.
Also, I cannot view the pictures, so it is hard to make much of a determination.
Lastly, how many parts did he actually deliver to you? It seems like you are now in possesion of a large number of carboned parts that you did not pay for?

Herblenny

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First of all, I want to thank fikren for understand my situation.. That's exactly it.. and to add to what he said..

I have worked with Jason Evans aka sonix7 for over a year behind the forum. Never said anything negative and when there was a problem, I kept it off the public via emails. And did this since OCT 2005! Thats over a year!

I also know there are other people who did business with him and got good results. I stated that in my very first post I made on last saturday morning about Jason.

Again, I'm bringing all this up because of the fact he lied about what he offered and insisted to do. He completely disregarded my effords and time I've put in. He used my material which I bought for him and probably did your (mirabile) parts.

I always believed that you help the person who helped you the most! If I make a promise, I follow... If I owe someone, I pay back.... In this situation, he wasted great deal amounts of my time (both emailing hundreds of emails and waiting 1.25 years) and caused great stress! I didn't want to loose over $1000 I put in toward buying him stuff but also all the parts I've sent him.

If those who wants to support people like this, thats great! I think that rotary community is unique and I tried to support the rotary community before I support others.

I knew I could of done this overlay stuff on my own.. I told jason many tricks I've learned 2 years prior to telling him. I had 10 yard of CF at home and 2 yard of kevlar/CF, resin and hardener, etc. I even know a local friend whos a consoltant to manufacturing company and master molder, who was going to let me use his vac system. And when I think back and see how much time I've wasted because I wanted a fellow rotary guy to suceed so he could make something of himself.. It makes me sick that that same person screws me over..

That's why I'M PISSED.. and I think anyone else who's in my shoes will feel very similar.. Wouldn't you mirabile??

And if someone I respect on this forum gets screwed like I did, I wouldn't support Jason Evans either..

sonix7

Alright thats it. I have stood back long enough. Phil you are making false claims. I never sold your panels to anyone. Do you have proof of that false statement? Matter of fact I have the panel downstairs. It needs to be fixed. Unless you pay me for the work and hours I spend nose to the grind, then its not yours. Others have no problem paying $500 for the work, which is a good deal for what that is. I returned the original drivers side panel that was sent to me. Since there was a problem with the pass side door panel, no way was I going to send it like that under the circumstances. I replaced it with a black door panel I bought off of someone. It was black, it was in like new and better condition than the original and I cleaned them up with a real nice vinyl cleaner and they looked new. I apologized for the problem and said I would figure out what happened. You never ever contacted me after you got the box and parts in question to fix anything. Its weird that the vinyl cleaner didn't wipe off this so called paint? You chopped up my personal e-mails to make yourself look good. You took information out of context and did not include most of the coorespondance about the financing of this project. To broadcast personal e-mails that I thought were between me and you is wrong and decietful. You are also making false claims on the gauge, the gauge was like that when it got here. You put it in a box at the end of a roll of vinyl stickering. You have no proof to yet another false claim. I am recording all this as you have done nothing to fix this in any way. You are soley rampaging across the internet in an attempt to ruin me and my business. You have included personal information and comprimised my security. I am pursuing this as a slander case and I have all of the info to prove it. Thanx Phil. I would have gladly got you another door panel if you could actually prove that I painted it, which I did not. If I make a mistake I have no problem fixing it. He never tried. I think you are being dishonest and I want proof more than a pic that I painted anything. You have made so many false claims and other people are joining in and spreading this information in order to ruin my business. Over the internet, its against the law. Thread got shut down because you crossed the line. I have every page and every statement in print and am meeting with my lawyer in a few hours, Hope your ready? If anyone wants to really know any details instead of me having to defend myself in the court of public opinion, PM me. I will answer anything anyone asks. I have so many more people that have had awesome experiences with me than this one guy that got everything for free! Bottomline is you have several parts that are worth a lot to me, I have nothing but a shiftknob and gauge and you trying to bury me? BTW where is the receipts that show you paid any money to me. I would love to see them. I would advise you to handle this in a different manner or suffer the consequences. Have a nice day.

Herblenny

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mirabile, I did not insist for him to do the parts for FREE! HE did! He asked me to send all my interior pieces. I asked him if he could handle doing it, He said he did.

I also gave HIM over $1000 worth of stuff.. Or bought him and gave him over $1000 worth of stuff.. example, 10yard of CF (50inch wide), Resin/hardener, $250 shiftknob he wanted me to import to US, Brand new Defi gauge (I think oil temp), gave him my extra set of R1 lip so he could covert and sell or use as core, and also 99 lip i gave him for the same reason.. and other misc pieces.. etc etc..

This is what he wrote:

So, I hope you don't think I'm still out of line. Even though he said FREE. I never accepted the "FREE" offer. I compensated him with parts, help him with tons of graphic stuff, tracked down parts, track down materials, etc etc.. My time I've spend helping him in my work time would be FAR greater than what he would of charged me out right to do the conversion..

Herblenny

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LOL! Please contact your lawyer and make a lawsuit against me. Why do I think its another one of your lies? You say you would do it but my guess, like previous words you've given me.. it will lead to nothing..

First, Let me point out to you, if you have a legit business, you need to document all your funding source and such. YOU DON'T have that.. So, stop lying and deal with the embarrasement.. before you make even bigger fool out of yourself.. Do you think I'm some dumb idiot?? Why don't I call IRS and report your income you've earned and such.. Do you have a business tax id? you never asked me of any CF that I bought for ya? LOL!

I really think you will WIN!! Yeh!

Your emails are posted to clear up the facts from the false statements. I've stated the facts and also showed what you've stated on the "PUBLIC" forums here are false!

Once again, think with your head what you are doing vs. what I've done.. You are coming on to this thread accusing me of me lying when you are not providing anyone with factual info.... That I consider slandering! Maybe I should find a lawyer for ya and make a civil suit? But you know what, its not worth my time.. I just want others to know who you really are...

I on the other hand provided EVERYONE with facts! Pics and emails you sent me stating what you would do! So, get things straight before you try to make a law suit.. If your lawyer is that dumb to take on this case.. That's great! LOL!

sonix7

That was until Phil was not pleased with any thing I did and basically degraded me. I was ready to wash my hands right there. He called and made me believe that he was going to do good. I sent him the first batch of parts and he complains and wants me to do them over. So I do. Then he sends pieces that I wasted a ton of time and material on for nothing. He sent me a RHD cowl and I got almost finished and figured out it didn't fit. Money down the drain. When the finance got to high for me to do Phil's parts for free anymore, I was very honest and asked him to help and that I no longer had any money for his project. He pressured me to get them done and offered no help, I tried to finish up and call it a loss. I never mix and match parts and don't ever use someone elses parts unless they give me permission (like Phil). I treated Phils parts like everyone elses. Any fish eye and imperfection can easily be wet sanded and polished out with minimal effort. Clearcoating epoxy resin is much different than a car or regular clearcoating. I have many professionals that have the same problem. Regardless, Phil could have re-cleared them himself or had a paint shop do it (they were free) if he was not happy. Which this is all this is really about. I am very sorry about that Phil. I worked numerous hours and busted my *** for you. It makes no sense for me to work hundreds of hours and get next to nothing out of it just to screw you. I should have known this was going to happen. BTW, Phil you have had those pieces for months. Why did you not tell me then? Why did you not say anything til now? This is very shady, why did you post a thread to pump me up, were you being honest? Anyway, I have explained enough. Phil should have used the proper way to get things fixed. All my paying customers get a warranty and if it is not good enough then it gets fixed. Ask Maxspeed (3 time paying customer) ask Mirable (multiple time paying customer) ask MazdaspeedsFD3S. Ask the numerous customers I have had. Thanx

Herblenny

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Jason,
I guess you didn't really read the other thread did you?? LOL!

Stop making excuses and assuming things. It was clearly stated thru phone calls and emails. I've stated and have all the emails you've sent me. END OF STORY! YOU pulled my chain for over 1.25 years. I would of complained and not recommend anyone to you if I had my parts back. It was a mistake on my part to send them to you.

And there is someone else you did work for who's not happy.. Hope they will get on.. because he pm me to let me know about it but didn't post on the other thread.

Just goto your lawyer and make a lawsuit against me. Thats what you said and you should stick to that.. You have my numbers and address. Please use that and DO it!

I will however call the IRS and ask them to do some back ground checks. Anyone else beside Manny,Mirable and Maxspeed you made money off of?