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Old 05-05-03, 10:38 PM
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What precludes me from HAVING to run standalone?

Basically that's the question. I'm converting to big single on my RE motor. Going into an FC vert.

I know the GB is "coming real soon" but I want to know if I get everything else together, will I be able to run my vert or should I just wait. I'm not sure I can wait another 3 months to turn the key.

Anyway, To4e, divided mani, RE motor (unported), want to run mild boost levels right now, got the fuel pump on the way, will be ordering the FPR soon, and been eyeing the wastegates and BOVs for a bit. Haven't selected anything yet though.

Other thing I still need to do is buy bigger injectors, and I suspect I may have to go w/ a custom fuel rail(s) but not positive. Prolly depends on what I find for injectors.

Anyway, all that said, will I be forced to run a standalone EMS? *sigh*
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Will you be forced to run a standalone? Well, yes. Unless you can get ahold of the stock harness, coils, ECU, etc from the Cosmo, and then hack it up to deliver the fuel and spark timing necessary to properly control such a wildly non-stock setup, well... Put it this way: you could do it without a standalone, but it'd take twice the expense for half the result.

Oh, and this GB won't take 3 mos, I promise

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All of those single-turbo goodies take a very long time to select and install. I'm sure that another group buy will come along soon enough. If you really can't wait, then don't be a penny-pinching tightwad and pay the very reasonable regular price.

IMO a stock NA FC needs a standalone EMS, lol. Unfortunately, most people don't ever realize how much better the car runs with a standalone because, much like you, they pile on so many mods prior to the EMS that the true value of the EMS is never appreciated.
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Good call Evil Aviator!
Couln't have said it better myself!
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I know I know.. I'm just impatient.
Okay, if you promise me I can get my MT in reasonable time w/ the GB, I'll just wait. Don't really want to put all that crap together just to rewire it later anyway.

I'll just start gathering my junk and see where I'm at when I'm ready to stick everything in. Hopefully by that time the GB will be underway.

I'm really getting pumped about this now. It just seems like there are so many more "success stories" w/ the MT than any other EMS at the moment!

Thanks everyone! Looking forward to my MT purchase!
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****, my stock turboII runs really really really great with "rxeng" base map, runs way better than it did before and it runs up to 20MPG, not no 9 MPG i had before because of extreme richness and open vent BOV, etc. The cold start starts up really QUICK, more than faster than ever, my car is soo damn smooth when its idling too, i didn't even believe that it was my car!

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Originally posted by Evil Aviator
IMO a stock NA FC needs a standalone EMS, lol. Unfortunately, most people don't ever realize how much better the car runs with a standalone because, much like you, they pile on so many mods prior to the EMS that the true value of the EMS is never appreciated.
After buying my RX-7 it quickly became apperant to me that the first mod to be done to the car should be standalone EMS. It should come before exhaust, or intake or any of the usuall first mods, and for the price of the Microtech there is no real reason why it can't be done.
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Originally posted by rx7_turbo2
and for the price of the Microtech there is no real reason why it can't be done.

i have a reason, its alot easier to install exhaust than it is to rewire your entire engine bay.
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Originally posted by jacobcartmill
i have a reason, its alot easier to install exhaust than it is to rewire your entire engine bay.
Not much. And what's this about re-wiring the entire engine bay? I think you need to look at what goes into the install before you say that. The Microtech install is pretty easy. Lost of people on the last group buy had done nothing like it before and with a little help from the forum have it running no problem. Since the Microtech keeps stock sensors like water temp, air temp, and TPS there is none of the modifications required like for instance you have with a Haltech.

I anticipate my Microtech install to be easier than my exhuast install. I won't have to cut off any rusted bolts.
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Originally posted by jacobcartmill
i have a reason, its alot easier to install exhaust than it is to rewire your entire engine bay.
Installing an EMS is about as difficult as installing a stereo, it requires only very basic tools, and you don't even need to jack up the car. Most people would consider the exhaust install more difficult.

Tuning the EMS is the difficult part, but most nubies will find it easier than tuning a carburetor.
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The most difficult part about it is matching the color wires if you can't discern red/greens very well.

Tans look like yellow to me...

Easy? I dunno about EASY, but as evil said, it's like a stereo...only with plugs and having to remove the UIM/TB/CC.

I'd rather change a numerical value on a laptop/handset then tear into a carb to change jets.
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