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Bose and Base
I just recieved a nice bose wave guide and I was wondering if the hook ups are available in the Base model or am I going to have to rig a harness? If I have to rig a harness is there some schematics of what plug goes to what and where that I can get from somebody please!
I have installed it in the car and I need to know what hook ups go where or if the base has the bose hook-ups and also what plug goes where so I can integrate the bose system into my base model without having to get a whole complete in car wiring harness.
Thanks for the help and yes I have searched but nothing came up that was specific to my question.
Thanks for the help!
I have installed it in the car and I need to know what hook ups go where or if the base has the bose hook-ups and also what plug goes where so I can integrate the bose system into my base model without having to get a whole complete in car wiring harness.
Thanks for the help and yes I have searched but nothing came up that was specific to my question.
Thanks for the help!
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here:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=25090
last if you are going to incorporate a bose wave tube to a non bose headunit go and get yourself an attenuator to power down the signal coming from the head unit (speaker signal) to the the bose wave.
Every bose speaker has a amp because it's expecting a passive signal from the bose head unit. Now a non bose head unit the signal already has power so you end up overdriving your bose speakers and sounds like ****. Go to any audio store and ask for a attenuator/power converter (power converter is an erroneous term BTW) and hook it up.
MOST radio installers will tell you that it can't be done. But they are full of ****, it's just that they are ignorant about bose. They will also tell you that bose is an old technology. Yes it is in a sense because the amplification is done via waveguide techniques which works just fine. Last but not least the wave tube is NOT a BOOM box! so if that is what you are looking for then just get yourself a 10". The bose wave tube was designed to give quality sound not quantity if that makes any sense.
How do I know this? I've done it.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=25090
last if you are going to incorporate a bose wave tube to a non bose headunit go and get yourself an attenuator to power down the signal coming from the head unit (speaker signal) to the the bose wave.
Every bose speaker has a amp because it's expecting a passive signal from the bose head unit. Now a non bose head unit the signal already has power so you end up overdriving your bose speakers and sounds like ****. Go to any audio store and ask for a attenuator/power converter (power converter is an erroneous term BTW) and hook it up.
MOST radio installers will tell you that it can't be done. But they are full of ****, it's just that they are ignorant about bose. They will also tell you that bose is an old technology. Yes it is in a sense because the amplification is done via waveguide techniques which works just fine. Last but not least the wave tube is NOT a BOOM box! so if that is what you are looking for then just get yourself a 10". The bose wave tube was designed to give quality sound not quantity if that makes any sense.
How do I know this? I've done it.
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Sounds good and I appreciate the quality response. I wanted the bose system after I heard one. After I got the chance to own one, I want it done properly so it can deliver its rich sound.
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
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last if you are going to incorporate a bose wave tube to a non bose headunit go and get yourself an attenuator to power down the signal coming from the head unit (speaker signal) to the the bose wave.
Every bose speaker has a amp because it's expecting a passive signal from the bose head unit. Now a non bose head unit the signal already has power so you end up overdriving your bose speakers and sounds like ****. Go to any audio store and ask for a attenuator/power converter (power converter is an erroneous term BTW) and hook it up.
MOST radio installers will tell you that it can't be done. But they are full of ****, it's just that they are ignorant about bose. They will also tell you that bose is an old technology. Yes it is in a sense because the amplification is done via waveguide techniques which works just fine. Last but not least the wave tube is NOT a BOOM box! so if that is what you are looking for then just get yourself a 10". The bose wave tube was designed to give quality sound not quantity if that makes any sense.
How do I know this? I've done it.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=25090
last if you are going to incorporate a bose wave tube to a non bose headunit go and get yourself an attenuator to power down the signal coming from the head unit (speaker signal) to the the bose wave.
Every bose speaker has a amp because it's expecting a passive signal from the bose head unit. Now a non bose head unit the signal already has power so you end up overdriving your bose speakers and sounds like ****. Go to any audio store and ask for a attenuator/power converter (power converter is an erroneous term BTW) and hook it up.
MOST radio installers will tell you that it can't be done. But they are full of ****, it's just that they are ignorant about bose. They will also tell you that bose is an old technology. Yes it is in a sense because the amplification is done via waveguide techniques which works just fine. Last but not least the wave tube is NOT a BOOM box! so if that is what you are looking for then just get yourself a 10". The bose wave tube was designed to give quality sound not quantity if that makes any sense.
How do I know this? I've done it.
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Ok I see the green and white plugs.
Though I have checked and I do not have the wiring harness for the wave guide I want to know, is the "White 2 Pronged plug" the power plug and the "Green 6 Pronged plug" the audio plug?
If so does the power plug take straight 12v power? If so I would probably route the power from behind the cigarette lighter.
I don't want to splice the wave guide into the line for the speakers as that I think will put to much of an ohm load on the rest of the speakers causing them to loose volume and fidelity.
Is the stock base model Radio/Tape player the same as the touring/PEP model Tape player? and if so how does the Touring/PEP model CD Player tie into the whole system? Which part does the Bose Waveguide come off from the cd player or Radio/Tapedeck player?
Obviously I am not an Electronics person. I am trying to understand the diagram but.I am not sure of the 2B , 2A , 2H and 2F and how that all works. I am going to have to get a crash course into electronic wiring..... but wow I am perplexed.
Though I have checked and I do not have the wiring harness for the wave guide I want to know, is the "White 2 Pronged plug" the power plug and the "Green 6 Pronged plug" the audio plug?
If so does the power plug take straight 12v power? If so I would probably route the power from behind the cigarette lighter.
I don't want to splice the wave guide into the line for the speakers as that I think will put to much of an ohm load on the rest of the speakers causing them to loose volume and fidelity.
Is the stock base model Radio/Tape player the same as the touring/PEP model Tape player? and if so how does the Touring/PEP model CD Player tie into the whole system? Which part does the Bose Waveguide come off from the cd player or Radio/Tapedeck player?
Obviously I am not an Electronics person. I am trying to understand the diagram but.I am not sure of the 2B , 2A , 2H and 2F and how that all works. I am going to have to get a crash course into electronic wiring..... but wow I am perplexed.
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Bump for this question please.
Though I have checked and I do not have the wiring harness for the wave guide I want to know, is the "White 2 Pronged plug" the power plug and the "Green 6 Pronged plug" the audio plug?
I want this thing to work and I don't want to have to take it to audio/visual or some place like that to get it to work. I just need to know what these plugs do.
I looked at the schematics and I don't understand a thing from that.
Please help a friend.
Though I have checked and I do not have the wiring harness for the wave guide I want to know, is the "White 2 Pronged plug" the power plug and the "Green 6 Pronged plug" the audio plug?
I want this thing to work and I don't want to have to take it to audio/visual or some place like that to get it to work. I just need to know what these plugs do.
I looked at the schematics and I don't understand a thing from that.
Please help a friend.
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'85GSL-SE,
Back when I first got my bose snake I contacted bose about a schematic and color codes... They actually sent me a scanned and really simple drawing depicting what goes to what.
Now I'm not promising anything because it has been like 5 years but I think I still have it somewhere. I will look for it but like I said it's been a while....
Edit- sorry for not getting back you 2 months ago. I never saw that you had additional questions. Next time PM a brother!!
Back when I first got my bose snake I contacted bose about a schematic and color codes... They actually sent me a scanned and really simple drawing depicting what goes to what.
Now I'm not promising anything because it has been like 5 years but I think I still have it somewhere. I will look for it but like I said it's been a while....
Edit- sorry for not getting back you 2 months ago. I never saw that you had additional questions. Next time PM a brother!!
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Originally Posted by montego
'85GSL-SE,
Back when I first got my bose snake I contacted bose about a schematic and color codes... They actually sent me a scanned and really simple drawing depicting what goes to what.
Now I'm not promising anything because it has been like 5 years but I think I still have it somewhere. I will look for it but like I said it's been a while....
Back when I first got my bose snake I contacted bose about a schematic and color codes... They actually sent me a scanned and really simple drawing depicting what goes to what.
Now I'm not promising anything because it has been like 5 years but I think I still have it somewhere. I will look for it but like I said it's been a while....
If not can you tell me how you wired yours and how you plugged into your system. You gave me some specs on the "attenuator/power converter" and how did you hook into that. I hate having it sitting in my "trunk area" if you want to call it that and non functional.
I have tried to toy with this thing for awhile. But I am getting tired of having to tear panels out of my car and put them back in all the time and hacking my speakers wiring harness to see if it will make some noise. It is abit of a pain if you ask me.
Go Montego Go!!!! If you can find it and it will work I will owe you one!!!
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Originally Posted by montego
dude,
I dind't have time yesterday. But I will today. If all else fails I will look at the wiring myself.
I dind't have time yesterday. But I will today. If all else fails I will look at the wiring myself.
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dude,
I am extremely sorry that I flaked on you. A lot of **** came up and I completely forgot about you. but I'm back!
Anyway, I do not have a digital camera but a pic is not needed.
From the bose snake this is the connection:
2 orange wires tied together to +12 volts
2 black wires tied together to Ground
purple = right speaker +
yellow = right speaker -
brown = left speaker +
white = left speaker -
the white plug is left unconnected.
I have an alpine head unit, polk component speakers for the front, and some kenwood for my rears (along with the Bose wave tube).
I drew a schematic of my set up for you and put it with a pretty background lol
this the exact power converter (attenuator) that I used:
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piepdcloc.html
^^The connections are also listed on the schematic. Note that the outputs are RCA plugs while the bose wave tube inputs are wires. Meaning that you are gonna have to splice your RCA jacks The black, green, purple wires (on the attenuator) are left unconnected. Actually, I just cut them off after I made sure that my system worked.
That's all you need to hook it up. Once you do if you feel that there is too bass coming from the tube while all of your other speakers are lacking, then just turn the screws on the attenuator. Turning the screws decreases the power going into the tube kinda like a seperate volume setting. The same goes for the opposite if there is hardly any base coming out of it then turn up the screws (obviously).
One more recomendation: Just to point out the obvious the +12 V to the wave tube is better left connected to a voltage that only comes on with the key on the ON position otherwise the amp is always on and draining your battery.
I am extremely sorry that I flaked on you. A lot of **** came up and I completely forgot about you. but I'm back!
Anyway, I do not have a digital camera but a pic is not needed.
From the bose snake this is the connection:
2 orange wires tied together to +12 volts
2 black wires tied together to Ground
purple = right speaker +
yellow = right speaker -
brown = left speaker +
white = left speaker -
the white plug is left unconnected.
I have an alpine head unit, polk component speakers for the front, and some kenwood for my rears (along with the Bose wave tube).
I drew a schematic of my set up for you and put it with a pretty background lol
this the exact power converter (attenuator) that I used:
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piepdcloc.html
^^The connections are also listed on the schematic. Note that the outputs are RCA plugs while the bose wave tube inputs are wires. Meaning that you are gonna have to splice your RCA jacks The black, green, purple wires (on the attenuator) are left unconnected. Actually, I just cut them off after I made sure that my system worked.
That's all you need to hook it up. Once you do if you feel that there is too bass coming from the tube while all of your other speakers are lacking, then just turn the screws on the attenuator. Turning the screws decreases the power going into the tube kinda like a seperate volume setting. The same goes for the opposite if there is hardly any base coming out of it then turn up the screws (obviously).
One more recomendation: Just to point out the obvious the +12 V to the wave tube is better left connected to a voltage that only comes on with the key on the ON position otherwise the amp is always on and draining your battery.
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Sweet Deal Montego! I am going to hook that thing up as soon as I can then I will post on how it sounds.
It sure is nice to have a diagram on how it works. Oh and the Background is great.
Let me hook it up and I will get back to you on it!!!
It sure is nice to have a diagram on how it works. Oh and the Background is great.
Let me hook it up and I will get back to you on it!!!
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THANKS! this will help me immensely. i just ordered some high end polk separates for the front and rear... nakamichi head unit, but had nowhere to put a sub enclosure and would have had holes left in my carpet . it seems wrong to throw a hacked together bose tube with high end stuff, but i really dont want to deal with an ugly box in my trunk.
one question that i had was, is it possible to hook up the bose unit to the sub channel on my amp (throw a relay in there to have it the wave tube power up with a signal from my head unit)? i see that the bose tube needs a left and right channel however so im not sure how that would work out. maybe you already covered this and i should re-read the post , but the converter is to reduce the rear speakers to a LINE LEVEL OUTPUT? if so couldnt i simply use an RCA directly from my sub out on my head?
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**PS** i dont see the 2nd connector (2 pin) listed in your diagram. its grey with a 1 green and 1 red wire. do you know what the function of those are?
one question that i had was, is it possible to hook up the bose unit to the sub channel on my amp (throw a relay in there to have it the wave tube power up with a signal from my head unit)? i see that the bose tube needs a left and right channel however so im not sure how that would work out. maybe you already covered this and i should re-read the post , but the converter is to reduce the rear speakers to a LINE LEVEL OUTPUT? if so couldnt i simply use an RCA directly from my sub out on my head?
-heath
**PS** i dont see the 2nd connector (2 pin) listed in your diagram. its grey with a 1 green and 1 red wire. do you know what the function of those are?
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i see that the bose tube needs a left and right channel however so im not sure how that would work out. maybe you already covered this and i should re-read the post , but the converter is to reduce the rear speakers to a LINE LEVEL OUTPUT? if so couldnt i simply use an RCA directly from my sub out on my head?
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that's because it's left unconnected on my setup.
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I'm not sure. Maybe one one of the orange wires works as a power antenna. Try it and see.
The bose system is expecting a passive signal from a bose stereo. That's why every speaker has it's own amp. The attenuator is to reduce to power level of the signal that is coming from the stereo, otherwise you end up over driving the bose.
that's because it's left unconnected on my setup.
The bose system is expecting a passive signal from a bose stereo. That's why every speaker has it's own amp. The attenuator is to reduce to power level of the signal that is coming from the stereo, otherwise you end up over driving the bose.
that's because it's left unconnected on my setup.
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no sorry. I lost the original schematic that bose gave me.
Did you try this:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=25090
Did you try this:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=25090
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