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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Is Hylomar really necc?

I'll be rebuilding my motor very soon..

all new internals and new Rotor housings and complete gasket set...


in my part of the world.. I can't find hylomar for the Life of me.. I don't wanna order it unless i REAAALLLYY have to...


I can find black and red RTV silicone's... but they dry.. unlike the hylomar.. which is "semi drying"


so can I just use Vaseline for the oil rings and coolant seals.. and RTV for the legs of the housings and Oil pan?


is there any Crucial areas that need Hylomar?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Hylomar is not required. It's nice to have though. I've built many engines using vaseline on the seals and an off the shelf sealer on the legs. Permatex's High Tack works pretty well on the legs of the housings too.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Really you only need something to hold the seals in place while you set the irons. Vasoline works but it's not nearly as tacky as Hylomar. Hylomar is also an excellent sealant in and of itself so it's serving an added purpose that vasoline won't. Vasoline will also tend to swell the seals. If you use it don't dope up the seals and then let them sit for hours before trying to assemble the engine. You'll have problems.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottoman
so can I just use Vaseline for the oil rings and coolant seals.. and RTV for the legs of the housings and Oil pan?
Yes!


is there any Crucial areas that need Hylomar?
No!


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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Get hylomar....if u half *** it u will get a half *** job =P
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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i didnt use hylomar i used rtv and its holding seal just as good
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Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Thanks for the info guys..

nice to know i don't need to order one little.. (after spending a fortune on this motor it'll be nice to save a few pennies)
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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i know how that is i was the same way
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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We have hylomar at Advance Auto Parts.... at least my store does. I really like the stuff even though it may not be necessary... I kinda horded some fro mthe other stores to make sure I could find some if I wanted..
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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i've done a rebuild with no hylomar. its no big deal, the MAIN function is to hold the water seals in place during assembly and possibly help seal things up. you just have to be a little more careful with the water seals and move a little quicker when you use vaseline, as c ludwig said.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Hylomar is great stuff but as others have already stated just rock the vaseline and be done with it. It will be fine.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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I didn't have enough hylomar when I rebuilt my engine, it sucked. It is the best stuff out there at least I think it is. Can someone post a link where to buys some?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Hylomar will save your coolant seals and keep your coolant seals from expanding. If you have a race motor and plan on rebuilding it often, this is great stuff.

Don't you hate throwing away good coolant seals just because they're out of shape
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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Dont use vaseline, it will make your rubber seals swell.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 813KR$
Dont use vaseline, it will make your rubber seals swell.
And this is bad how?
Mazda even recommends using petroleum jelly for assembly...


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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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I used Crisco, on the reccomendation of Pineapple racing...Worked Great....
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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In the DIY RE dvds, they use no hylomar on their engine, only vaseline to install the seals.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicker10u
I used Crisco, on the reccomendation of Pineapple racing...Worked Great....
I love the smell of Crisco when the engine first fires up. I use Hylomar on the water seals but Crisco on all the hard seals to keep them in place. Much better than Vaseline.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
And this is bad how?
Mazda even recommends using petroleum jelly for assembly...


-Ted

You can use petroleum jelly for the metal parts just fine for the rebuild.. I would not recommend useing it for the coolent seals as thay will swell up and change shape... been there and done that....

as for the Hylomar it is not requiered to do the rebild however it is help full.. as a replacement for Hylomar you can use RTV as well...
for thoes that want Hylomar here is a link to where I have it on my on line store...

http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...cat=537&page=1

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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Anyone ever use this.
http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...t_Dressing.htm


I also found this.

Permatex® Rubber Gasket Dressing
This new, non-hardening sealant is designed specifically for Rubber Gasket positioning and preparation. Acts as a third hand to position gaskets during torque. Conditions rubber and compensates for imperfections in metal surfaces.

I cant find hylomar anywhere local.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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I would imagine than a non hardening sealant like Hylomar would be nice for an engine that requires frequent rebuilds. Easier to get it off the housings than RTV.
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