RETed

The supply for Permatex Hylomar HPF is drying up, since Permatex doesn't make 'em anymore.

The Valco stuff I really don't like.
It "hardens" too quickly, and trying to put this stuff on TefSil o-rings is just not going to happen.
Did I get a bad tube or something?

I used to put the Permatex Hylomar HPF stuff on the TefSil o-rings no problem.
It would stay liquified enough that I can put a light coat on the o-ring and place them in the grooves.
The Valco stuff ***** up into lots of little jelly *****, and I had to resort to running a bead of it in the grooves and then stuffing the o-rings in the grooves - makes a real big mess and lots of waste!

If anyone has some laying around, I would be willing to buy the Permatex Hylomar HPF off of you for a reasonable price!
Maybe some of you guys can scour your local auto parts stores and buy up their remaining stock?
I would be more than willing to pay a reasonable price for your time and effort.

I realize this is not technically a 2nd gen specific question, so I can understand if it gets moved...
...it's just that I more comfortable asking the 2nd gen guys for help for this kinda thing, and this gets the most looks in almost any (technical) section.

Thanx in advance...


-Ted

Turblown

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I was told by Hylomar reps at the PRI show that is leaves an abrasive behind when it burns.....

JStewart

Rotary aviation is selling Syringes filled w/ Hylomar for 9$ shipped

RETed

That doesn't bother me...

I've been using the Permatex Hylomar HPF stuff for a while with good results.
I've even torn down my rebuilds, and I don't find anything strange in the grooves.
We're using them with TefSil o-rings, so I'm sure the Teflon can handle any abrasive it produces.


-Ted

RETed

Whose forumlation is it?
Like I said before, I don't like the Valco stuff, and I prefer the Permatex HPF stuff.
Do they state whose formulation they sell?


-Ted

MaczPayne

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I think this might interest you some:

http://www.hylomar.com/universal_blue_2.shtml

"Hylomar Ltd in the past has sold a solvent-free version of Universal Blue to Permatex in bulk, which they have repackaged as Permatex Hylomar HPF with our approval. This started at a point when Loctite (the former parent company of Permatex) was Hylomar’s US distributor. Since then Loctite was acquired by Henkel, which sold Permatex in a MBO, which was then acquired by ITW, and Hylomar has set up its own US distribution company. Some Permatex HPF may still be available in retail locations, but it is unclear how long stocks will last…. "

I haven't ordered from this place, but it looks like they have some in stock:

http://www.x1r.com/hylomar.htm

RotaryResurrection

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I am on my 2nd to the last tube of hylomar that I bought up a couple years ago when autozone stopped carrying it. I went around to all the local stores within about 60 miles and bought up all their stock, some of it was even discounted on clearance for a dollar or 2 a tube.

I have gotten the stuff inside of engines (used on rotors to hold troublesome seals in place) and later torn them back down to find no trace of it. It seems after a few hundred miles the stuff even gets washed away and broken down in the coolant passages.

I just use the tops that come with the tubes of RTV sealant, cut a very small hole at the top, and put a small bead right into the coolant seal grooves. No need to make a mess with trying to dab that **** all over the seals by hand, or even use some gay-*** brush to put it into the grooves. Just put a thin enough bead and it will not squeeze out and make a mess. It did take me a while to figure out exactly how much I could get by with and what size to cut the tip, though.

I figure when i run out, I will just get a turkey baster/syringe with vaseline and use it instead of trying to source more. If the manufacturer really cared about selling it's product, it would make more of an effort to market it, or at least get into a contract with a company that can market it for them (aka permatex). IF they don't care to do that, then I don't really see the need for me to chase them down either.

coxxoc

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Check your local H-D dealerships. It's $9.50 for part number 99653-85:


Same stuff?

BLUE TII

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I loved Permatex Hylomar!

The Valco crap won't stick to anything for me at all no matter how clean- I thought maybe it was too cold up or humid here for it to work.

I have been using another Permatex non-hardening grey gasket dressing that I was told was their replacement for Hylomar and it seems to be exactly like their old Hylomar just not as pretty.

classicauto

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Hmmm, I smell an opportunity. I swear I see the Permatex stuff in Carquest regularly up here in the great white north.....

I'll check with my rep and get back here.

alexdimen

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I had the same experience. When I built my FC engine, I had the permatex HPF and loved it. When putting my FD together, I used the other stuff I got from the UK when the supply dried up. It's just not the same, dries up too quickly and becomes much firmer than the original. I'm sure it does it's job, but it's harder to apply.

alexdimen

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Well, it's temperature range is 400+ degree F IIRC. If your coolant channels are that hot, then you've got bigger problems to deal with.

Besides, you don't normally put it on moving parts either. Sounds like a dumbass rep to me.

alexdimen

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Thats the new formulation. AKA, not permatex.

Sideways7

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A few days ago I used the hylomar supplied by atkins with my rebuild kit for my ill-fated engine. I was wondering what everyone was raving about since it dried pretty quickly, but I guess this is why. Its not the same hylomar. It definitely ***** up after a bit.

Shainiac

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Same story for me as well. The hylomar with my atkins kit was a pain in the *** to mess with. Granted, it was my first time using it, I found it extremely annoying, dried too fast and make my fingers too tacky to touch the seals without sticking to them.