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Old 12-30-13, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Premiumriceonly
i am a little worried tho about the lack of clearance the lateral rods/ subframe has. because the pbm bushings are risers they bring everything closer to the frame limiting adjustability and travel. i think im gonna have to remove the toe rods and hammer the floor pan to make room because its pretty much resting on them right now.

has anyone running the pbm bushings had to do that?
I actually noticed that as well, when adjusting my center camber link. The thing is, I have stock subframe mounts and stock lateral toe arms. Tops of the lateral toe arms would hit the floor of the car if I tried to crank out too much camber (tilting the rear of the subframe up). I need individual trailing arm adjusters, but that's besides the point...

I noticed that you guys pressed you diff bushings in so that the meaty collar is on the bottom, putting the diff closer to the floor as well. I could be pissing in the wind here, but based on what I see, those diff mounts might be contributing to this clearance issue too.

I'm all for banging that bitch in with a hammer though. Hell, if it works out for you guys I might do the same.
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Originally Posted by Justen
I noticed that you guys pressed you diff bushings in so that the meaty collar is on the bottom, putting the diff closer to the floor as well. I could be pissing in the wind here, but based on what I see, those diff mounts might be contributing to this clearance issue too
That's my original thought too but I believe they are sold as a subframe "riser" so i think thats the point. To get the subframe closer to the chassis to correct some of the geometry from slamming the car. I suppose if its a problem, he could pop them back out, flip them around, and re-install the stock crown bushings.

looks really good overall though. You're pretty brave for painting the wheel wells white, though.
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Originally Posted by RussTII
That's my original thought too but I believe they are sold as a subframe "riser" so i think thats the point. To get the subframe closer to the chassis to correct some of the geometry from slamming the car. I suppose if its a problem, he could pop them back out, flip them around, and re-install the stock crown bushings.

looks really good overall though. You're pretty brave for painting the wheel wells white, though.
yeah thats right they market the set as 'riser' bushings so they bring the whole assembly closer to the car but this sucks with the FCs crap trailing arm setup cuz it really limits the adjustability. im not gonna be able to take out nearly as much camber as i was planning on and floors gonna have to be bashed. my toe links were touching frame while the car was still in the air

and yeah white is a terrible idea but i cant help it i like how it looks too much
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yeah white is a terrible idea but i cant help it i like how it looks too much
Seriously... it looks so nice to work under that car right now. Working under mine is like being in a black hole that drops dirt and rust into your eyes.
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Sounds like PBM may need to develop toe-links like they have for S-chassis where it is pre-bent to avoid body/frame interference.
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Originally Posted by Schmitty
Seriously... it looks so nice to work under that car right now. Working under mine is like being in a black hole that drops dirt and rust into your eyes.
thatll be this car the first time it drives on the street for .2 seconds. im taking as many pictures as i can while it still looks nice

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Sounds like PBM may need to develop toe-links like they have for S-chassis where it is pre-bent to avoid body/frame interference.
yeah that could possibly help out. the adjustability of fc suspension in general just blows. have to get the right bushing setup for adjustment and even then the ways you move camber/toe are just retarded compared to double wishbone. im hoping we wont have to drop the subframe again to deal with the clearance issues id be pisseddd
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Originally Posted by T0mo
Sounds like PBM may need to develop toe-links like they have for S-chassis where it is pre-bent to avoid body/frame interference.
Yeah exactly.

For the time being, you guys could use a modified stock toe-arm for a little more room:
https://www.rx7club.com/drifting-226...fc-rx7-938877/
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im curious and may send Dan another email, But I thought when using PBM entire rear end solution nothing had to be banged out. Actually, ask JTP, he has the whole setup from them on the rear, and driven on it.

I was planning on picking up the "entire rear solution" once tax return rolls in, so I would love to figure this out before hand.

Also, you car is coming along nicely.

Edit: I remember you made your own links now.
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I have no issues with rubbing archphil an I also have pbm's entire rear setup
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Nice!!! That's my next move- like the color scheme
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This is the most motivational build thread for my S5 build which is also low budget, no shops, just me and a few friends out of my garage. Lots of great ideas and advice.

Thanks and keep up the good work!
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Aww yeah.
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thanks for the support guys. not much going on just trying to save for fab work at the moment. ill try to do something picture worthy soon
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Originally Posted by Premiumriceonly
aight back to the other car again

did work today. assembled subframe. color scheme looks clean all together. im pleased. also put our middle school skateboards to good use







after a lot of hammering and re positioning we finally got everything in the car and torqued down. the pbm bushings made it really hard to put in because they have no give



put the rear coils in too just to add to the blingin





i am a little worried tho about the lack of clearance the lateral rods/ subframe has. because the pbm bushings are risers they bring everything closer to the frame limiting adjustability and travel. i think im gonna have to remove the toe rods and hammer the floor pan to make room because its pretty much resting on them right now.

has anyone running the pbm bushings had to do that?

Hammering for clearance is really all you can do. I don't have any pics but the curved part that the bins/back seats sit in took a few good whacks with a 5lb sledge and there's no clearance issues anymore.
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same here
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??? I didnt have any clearance issues. im running the pbm toe links though and the bolts are pretty slim
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the slammed ride height has a lot to do with it too but i specifically chose to use beefier heims with a higher misalignment because i noticed on my other car at the height im at my links are close to binding.

i almost wish we used rubber bushings instead just to have more adjustability but im sure the pbm will feel much better

when in doubt cut **** out
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As always, we'd be very grateful if you would document whatever solution you come up with for the rest of us whom might use these risers

Thanks!
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This is looking rad! You make me want to paint my undercarriage haha.

What springs do you have on your PSM coils?
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Noticed your located in moorpark. Nice to know there are other FC's in the area. I live in camarillo. I am finally working on my vert again. Getting ready to do the vmount. Heres my build
https://www.rx7club.com/drifting-226/my-first-drift-car-build-990646/
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Originally Posted by dhennessey
As always, we'd be very grateful if you would document whatever solution you come up with for the rest of us whom might use these risers

yessir i will def do that soon

Thanks!
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This is looking rad! You make me want to paint my undercarriage haha.

What springs do you have on your PSM coils?
those are 9k/7k stance springs because the stock ones are too stiff but i will most likely be changing to shorter rears to get lower

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Noticed your located in moorpark. Nice to know there are other FC's in the area. I live in camarillo. I am finally working on my vert again. Getting ready to do the vmount. Heres my build
My first drift car build - RX7Club.com
yeah man i was checking your build the other day. once you get that thing running you should come kick it
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Originally Posted by Premiumriceonly
those are 9k/7k stance springs because the stock ones are too stiff but i will most likely be changing to shorter rears to get lower



yeah man i was checking your build the other day. once you get that thing running you should come kick it
For sure bro.
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Nice. I ran into that problem with mine too, I ended up taking both of the small collars off and dropping the spring perch all the way down to the lower mount which got me about another 3/4" lower, but I had to raise it up when I got BN. Just sold the BN though so it'll be going back down haha
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yessir i will def do that soon
Thanks man, loving the build!!


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