Bonestock

Are there any drifters out there here on this forum? If so, where do you practice?

WSIR htf has 1 a month, and cal spwy every once in awhile, but thats all I know for socal.

Just wanna get a thread going for those that wanna drift in a safe environment locally including me.

SLOASFK

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you've gotta be kidding me. You didn't see the thread that's at the top of this forum about drifting?

Go back to zilvia.net, most of us don't particularly care for drifting here.

dial8

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Dude...

Drifting is NOT a race-technique. Post stuff like this in the rotary events section, or holler at the N/A drift community in the second gen forum. In the off chance that you missed the boat, and by asking that question you did miss it, RX-7 are not good drift cars, and were BUILT to GRIP. Thats why most people on HERE prefer GRIP to DRIFT. SEARCH next time.


NOOB!

SLOASFK

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^-- and I thought I had rage issues!

dial8

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Only on Sundays my friend.

Bonestock

roflmao dial, just modify the front of the FD (to get more angle) and you can drift easily LOL...easier than any car I've had. If you doubt that 7's are not good (stock) drift cars, you're welcome to join my friends w/ Falken in the pits to get opinions.

Also it is a driving and race technique depending on the event.

dial8

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God damn it...

Define race, and then tell me where drifting fits in at any event.

Then talk to my friends Re-Amemiya , Fujita Engineering, R Magic, and Yokohama Advan about Grip, then compare notes with Falken, Falcon, Folcom, F(ull of ****)A(lways last)L(oser)K(inda gay too)E( )N(o, I'm sorry, drifting is not a race technique) and anybody else that puts drift above grip.

I have never seen ANY RX-7 setup for drift that was faster then ME on the track. Sorry, it looks good around wide ovals, but try actually whipping it around a technical track with some breathing down your neck and the clock ticking faster than your heartbeat.

Drifting does have a place on this forum whether I like or not, but the Race Technique section is not that place. Race means GRIP, and if you want to throw away Mazda's R&D to make a unique car for HIN on wheels then do so in another SECTION.

dial8

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Or I'll **** up this thread like I did the last one.

dial8

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I was looking up FD parts, and now I've been distracted. Do everyone a favor and please(better mark this on the calender, right NOW is the only time I'm going to be civil about this) look for other drifting threads that deal with drifting outside of the Race Tech section.

Roen

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I still do believe that a properly-done zero countersteer 4-wheel drift is the fastest way around a corner...using every single bit of the friction circle on all 4 tires, all the benefits of a higher entry speed with exit acceleration!

Now name me someone that can do that perfectly under pressure everyday. =P

For the rest of us mortals, we just practice our grip driving techniques to go fast.

I'm a proponent of drifting as a way to go faster around a track, what i'm not a fan of is events where tires are wasted and cars are figure skaters. Drifting events are not racing events. Show drifting, as I've come to term it, is not a racing technique!

Bunchies

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I'll agree with everything else, but the Falken RT-615s are pretty decent, especially in a street tire class. Up until the Advan AD07 and Bridgestone RE-01R came out, they were THE tire to have, and they still work well in the smaller sizes, since the AD07s don't come in less than 17" diameter. :p

Roen

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The Azenis are definitely still good in the dry, Bridgestone sorta invaded their territory with their RE-01R in 195/50/15 size.

The Azenis though, suck in the wet compared to the Advan or the Potenza.

MmSadda

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despite what the infinite wisdom of Initial D may tell us, a 7 does NOT drive fastest during drift, but rather during grip.

skizzle84

Both motorsports, drift and grip, prove a driver's car control, and both prove a drivers lack of control.

Stop trying to sound all badass by saying drift cars can't go faster than you around a track, because 1) drift and grip setups are in fact very similar, and 2) DRIVERS are the biggest factor in lap times, not your car.

P.s... RELAX.

dial8

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Yes, I know that, everyone knows that. But can you tell me which style of driving pulls more Gs on the skid pad? Which style makes better use of cars suspension, not just the tires and stiffness of the springs? And while I'm not dumb enough to get near anyone "drifting" at an HPDE, there is no way the anyone can "drift" through a corner faster than someone can "grip". Grip has been the basics of racing since racing began. Drag racing, circle track, super bike, rally, sprint, Indy, NASCAR( ), Road Racing, Time attack. Drifting is a show of power and sliding technique, but its judged on looks and other stylish elelments. Its not a race, it wont teach you to drive, YOU'RE NOT FASTER THAN ME!!! But, don't take my word for it. Tune your car and go grip a mountain road. Then, pay a someone who knows how to set up race suspensions to do it for you and repeat. If you still don't think Grip is better, then what the hell you gave it a shot and YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE THAT TELLS YOU AND ONLY THAT GRIP SUCKS. Most of these monkeys don't.


Okay, I will

justint5387

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I don't like drifting, but dial... You need to stop flaming the drifting threads. The race technique section is the place to "Talk about your Drifts, Autocross, and Drag techniques in here only!!!" It is the title of this section...

skizzle84

+1... million!

SLOASFK

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that's a commercial brainfart of the administration. They are trying to make it seem more welcoming to everyone, but we all know drifting isn't a racing technique.

And we also know that stupidity is contagious. If we let the driftards have their way, it wouldn't take long before you were unable to find legitimate threads in here.

Roen

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They really need to get rid of the word drifts in the race car tech section. This really should be the section for legitimate racing technique discussion. How much steering angle and how do i drift do not count as legitimate racing discussion.

dial8

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+1... million!

dial8

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I see you hiding down there phoenix!

dial8

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Sorry mate, I have a problem any time someone tries to force lies down my throat. SLO said it best, Drifting is not a race technique, so keep it out of the racing technique section. Because there is such a high demand for it, I do think the mods should create a "Drifting" section for all the little guys, but that doesn't mean that a slow sideways crawl in a car built to "Grip"(funny how thats a term now) is a racing technique.

You don't have to like me mate, but I bought my car to drive it hard, not because a fad in the industry tells me I need RWD. This is my reason for being here, and you'll be shocked to find that I'm not alone. Keep drifting the **** out of the race section, and I'll keep my mouth shut.

skizzle84

You all do realize this sub forum has the description "Talk about your Drifts, Autocross, and Drag techniques in here only!!!" underneath the title right?

Alright, well, this is drifting. Everyone has their own views. Get over your whole idea of trying to conform everyone. If we held all the same views, what would distinguish one thing from another?

How about we all go back to the lounge and continue trash talking just to feel better about ourselves yea!!!!!!

Roen

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The point is this is the race techniques section, and since drifting is not racing, drifting has no business in this section. That's not a view, it's a fact, there's no competition against a clock, therefore it is not a race. A separate section for drifting would be ideal, but in the interim, we should start changing the message by eliminating all non-racing related threads, this one included.

justint5387

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Falken Azenis is a great street tire, before the RE-01R and AD07, the RT-215 is THE tire to have for ST classes in auto-x.