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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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Too many people know the cost of everything, but know the value of nothing.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:48 AM
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Too many people know the cost of everything, but know the value of nothing.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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Too many people know the cost of everything, but know the value of nothing.
Thats pretty fucken deep man. You should put that on a bumper sticker or something.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Well later this afternoon I am going to be getting my parts list and some pics of the damage. I'll keep you all up to date. If anyone has any links to some sites with good quality, but reasonably priced engine parts please post them here.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Thats tough luck man. At least you got some time with it. Dont be bothered that its a JDM car and it blew. When I bought my car, within three months it blew a seal as well. Funny thing is a I had a 87 and it blew three months after I got it - just got all carboned up and pulled the seals away from the housings!!!

Anyways seems like you got a good car and thats all that counts. When I bought mine I knew a rebuild would be in order. Now you got no worries. Get it set up right and you wont be in trouble again.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyrx7
Thats pretty fucken deep man. You should put that on a bumper sticker or something.

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It's a saying I like to keep in mind when I'm trading stocks. I think it applies here. People know the price of every single stock, and that's all they go by. (Actually, it could apply to almost anything nowadays).

People buy shitty Chinese junk because it's 'priced' cheap.

At the end of the day, he bought a below average RHD car, and even with a rebuilt engine, turbo, trans etc etc. It will still be RHD.

Lesson learned? Probably not. Good warning for other 'price' junkies.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Good luck with that football22, so $14000 to $15000 is still a good deal for a fd with a fresh rebuild, it would be hard to get a local car (lhd) with a decent original engine for that price, even if you import from the states.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ehos
It's a saying I like to keep in mind when I'm trading stocks. I think it applies here. People know the price of every single stock, and that's all they go by. (Actually, it could apply to almost anything nowadays).

People buy shitty Chinese junk because it's 'priced' cheap.

At the end of the day, he bought a below average RHD car, and even with a rebuilt engine, turbo, trans etc etc. It will still be RHD.

Lesson learned? Probably not. Good warning for other 'price' junkies.
I totally agree with you.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ehos
At the end of the day, he bought a below average RHD car, and even with a rebuilt engine, turbo, trans etc etc. It will still be RHD.

Lesson learned? Probably not. Good warning for other 'price' junkies.
I kinda thought the lesson was that all Rx-7s are bad-***, and even a broken RHD third gen is better than no Rx-7.... guess I kinda took your saying the wrong way, I like my lesson better tho...

Matt
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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I dont know why you guys are bashing the RHD cars, i prefer them better then LHD. Its more exotic, and original. I like RHD cars, i dont see why you guys have anything against them.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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I don't really see why everyone has to bring their ignorant ******* comments in here?

Ehos if you are trying to give away life lessons go elsewhere. Obviously I am not pleased about what has happened with the car, and if I knew that I was going to be putting 15grand into this car I probubly would have re-thought that idea. But such is life and you have to roll with the punches. I now have a car with 64,000km on it, the steering and suspension on it are still really tight, the interior is in great shape and other than a few minor flaws with the exterior I really can't complain for a car that is 15 years old. And now it is going to have a fresh engine in it that is built by a very reputable shop. Yeah, I would prefer to have a LHD car since that is what I am more comfortable driving, and I could probubly drive it more agressively. But I'm sure that once I get used to RHD it won't be a issue. Who on here hasn't had to spend un-expected money on their 7? I am obviously not the first or last person that this will happen to. Have it be on a JDM car or not. If you want to be a ***** keep it to yourself.


Now that that is out of the way. Thanks everyone who is being fairly optimistic abuot the situation. I too am trying to be optimistic about things aswell. And I know that as soon as I get to drive the car again it will be definatly worth all of the hassles that I have gone through.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Unexpected? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the spending isn't over yet. You own a FD (Financial Disaster). I'm not just being a dick to you, I'm hoping all the kiddies with FD dreams and seeing cheap RHD cars don't get sucked into thinking, 'OH! Only $8200!' What a steal!

What happens when that's all the cash they have? That's great you had money lying around for a rebuild, but, it's not prudent to be passing on your 'good experience' to kids that are dreamers.

I'm trying to keep it real (I guess I'm a *****) because I don't want kiddies to get disillusioned with the most amazing car ever made. Everyone is touting RHD FD's, but someone has to be harsh (and bring reality into it). Think TWICE. There are so many other, better RHD cars out there (Pulsar GTiR!).

I'm VERY happy you have a nice tight, low mileage RHD FD. Be careful with your lane changes and don't lose your head (literally).

Also, you did try to get it for as cheap as possible. For $3000 you could've done what this guy is doing... Again, sorry if I'm a ***** (ooh that hurts me feewings), but buying a RHD FD (actually any FD) sight unseen, without a full inspection = not smart.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/waiting-my-1992-jdm-fd-june-6th-655970/page2/
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Old May 29, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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I've been following this post for some time (great post btw) as I too was looking to import a car. Not necessarily because the prices are decent prices but because there aren't enough of these cars kicking around here (RX-7s, Skylines and Supras). Football22 has done a great job detailing all of his costs, troubles and headaches. It's unfortunate that he had a problem so soon after purchasing his car. This doesn't necessarily have to do with it being a JDM car as many people have problems here after purchasing used cars.

ehos - you're bashing RHD RX-7s and the whole importing thing right, let me put you in the following scenario and you tell us what would you have done.

Staffs Auto in Vancouver inspects a 15 year old LHD RX-7 for you, they tell you the car is good and it's a solid car. You drive it and you feel "The car ran great, the steering and suspension was nice and tight and everything seemed good"

A) Do you then Buy the car?

B) Now if you buy the car, take possession of it, you then "started driving it home through crappy rush hour in vancouver. I got about a hour outside of Van and the highway started to open up a bit. I pulled over to pass someone and as I stepped on the gas I blew a seal."

What would you say then?
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Old May 29, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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I don't see how you being a ignorant *** hole is going to help out the kiddies who think that they can get a great deal on a low millage FD through Japan. If you haven't noticed I am documenting every cost that I have with this car. As you can tell, and you seem to like to point out, in the end this car is going to cost me around 14-15grand to pay for everything. I'm not hiding any costs from anyone to try and make it look like I am getting a great deal on this car. I am being completely honest about every penny I spend. So if anything, I am going to be giving everyone on here a good realisation of what to expect to pay for their JDM FD. I realise that my spending isn't over with this car, but for some reason you seem to think that people only have to put money into JDM FD's. EVERY FD REQUIRS LOTS OF MONEY. Not just the one that I bought, or the ones from Japan.

I will agree with you that buying a car site unseen isn't the best way to go about it, but with what I saw with my car and the way that it drove when I got it. I would have agreed to buy it anyway. So me seeing the car first wouldn't have done me any good since the engine blew after about 3 hours of driving it in total.

What would you have said if I babbied this car home and had no problems with it. Then after about a month of driving it I end up blowing a seal? Then would you still have this huge hate on for JDM FD's or would you just say that it happens to every FD at one time or another? As everyone who owns a FD should know, you will have to replace the engine sometime and there is no real knowing when you will have to replace it. As you have stated, they are financial disasters. But what hobby isn't?


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Unexpected? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the spending isn't over yet. You own a FD (Financial Disaster). I'm not just being a dick to you, I'm hoping all the kiddies with FD dreams and seeing cheap RHD cars don't get sucked into thinking, 'OH! Only $8200!' What a steal!

What happens when that's all the cash they have? That's great you had money lying around for a rebuild, but, it's not prudent to be passing on your 'good experience' to kids that are dreamers.

I'm trying to keep it real (I guess I'm a *****) because I don't want kiddies to get disillusioned with the most amazing car ever made. Everyone is touting RHD FD's, but someone has to be harsh (and bring reality into it). Think TWICE. There are so many other, better RHD cars out there (Pulsar GTiR!).

I'm VERY happy you have a nice tight, low mileage RHD FD. Be careful with your lane changes and don't lose your head (literally).

Also, you did try to get it for as cheap as possible. For $3000 you could've done what this guy is doing... Again, sorry if I'm a ***** (ooh that hurts me feewings), but buying a RHD FD (actually any FD) sight unseen, without a full inspection = not smart.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=655970&page=2
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Old May 29, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Not entirely biased against RHD cars (as I said, some of them are awesome and not even available here).

Point taken about LHD FD's being rare and getting them from Japan. Did you research FD's in the US? Some amazing examples for really decent prices.

Chiefabbot: Any FD can blow it's engine, but all you can deal with is reality. What's more likely to fail, an uninspected, sitting FD or a car that's been inspected and in the car of FD specialists? I'd put my money on the latter every time.

Football: Documenting the cost just shows how price conscious you are. You weren't doing it to be altruistic like you're trying to make it sound now.

Don't really feel like going round and round with this, I've stated my points, you yours. In the end, hopefully you get to enjoy your FD (and that's all that matters).

PS I would grab that 'rebuilt' turbo from the classifieds and get them to install it now while you're at it. At least that way you have peace of mind that the engine/turbos are good to go.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Purchasing a RHD car to bring into north america, especially if that particular vehicle can be purchased as a LHD, is not about it being "unique" or "exotic" .. that is just an excuse for saying "I'm too cheap to purchase a proper one" ...

As far as I'm concerned, anyone driving around in a RHD vehicle have just made our streets that much more unsafe to drive on.. enjoy making left hand turns in heavy traffic, potentially putting oncoming vehicles at risk ...

Don't try and sugar coat the reason for purchasing such a vehicle as being anything other than finances..
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Chris Ng hit it right on the nail! No beating around the bush... lol

Football22,
It's unfortunate you ran into this, but clearly you had to expect this would happen.

I'm all for RHD vehicles. Vehicles you can't find here are the ones I respect.
This being said, I wouldn't want to import any RHD FD's without exhausting all options here. I'm pretty sure you could have found a good condition FD for the price you've racked up already trying to import this 91 FD.
Nothing really rare about RHD FD's unless of course you're talking about the latest editions.

I think the only RHD FD's which will have my utmost respect will be the 99spec-Spirit R FD's.
The ones you truely can't find here.

Otherwise I'm with Chris Ng regarding the whole RHD FD importing fad.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Well you guys are so quick to think, eveyone should think the same as you, But thank god we were all made differently, some people hate RX-7's and would rather a corolla, and some people love women to men. Were all made differently, and thats what makes this a beautiful world to live in.

SO THANK GOD, we ALL ARNT like Neo, and Chris Ng! People have different tastes, so give up trying to preach to the world, that your amazing and correct. And shut your face! Its like complaining that i would rather a brunette over a blond, so juvinile, your acting like kids.

If you think you guys are so importatant then go and make a thread called "Neo and Chris Ng's Way of life, Come one come all!" And if your not up to do that, keep your criticism out of this thread.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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I don't see why everyone in here seems to have to point out the fact that I could have purchsed a LHD FD for the same price that I have paid for this one. I have already admited to that. And honestly, if I was phsychic and I could tell the future I probubly wouldn't have bought this car. But what can I do about that now? Nothing. The reason I documented all of my costs on here is because several people had asked me to do so since they were interested in doing the same themselves. It has nothing to do with me being price concious. Ehos, if you would have been paying any attention to any of the threads that were going around before I purchased my car you might understand a few things about why I have decided to document everything in here.

To be honest with everyone the reason that I purchased a JDM FD was for the cost. And I have never once stated other wise. I have admited to the fact that Iwould prefer a LHD FD, but when I was looking at cars I was looking at spending under 10grand on a "Project car". When I found out that I could import a FD for around 8 grand I couldn't pass that option up. As Ehos has stated, the GTIR's are a great rhd car and it was eather going to be one of those or a celica GT4 that I was going to import. But since I could get a FD for the same price as I could get one of the other 2 cars for by going through a importer I was sold on the FD. I did do my research on the FD's and I knew that in the near future I would have to invest some money into the car, but it didn't really matter where I bought the car from, I would most likely have to put some money into it sometime soon. Everyone has their own opinions, and if you want to hate the fact that I bought a RHD FD than good for you. But I don't see how anyone can hold anything against someone for owning a car. No matter what kind of car it is or where you sit in the car.

I am looking into my options of eather getting my stock turbos rebuilt or to replace them with some rebuilt ones off of the market place. As you have said, while everythings out I mineswell spend the money now so that I have the piece of mind of knowing that my engine and turbos are good. This is alot of money that I don't really have to spare right now, but lifes a bitch sometimes and you just have to deal with it.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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I'd look into BNR's. They should last you longer then the stocker's at least...

Sorry to hear about the trouble.......sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't - thats the way of the road

And I'm not going to harp on the fact that we tried to tell you there's no real "deals" on FD's

Good luck getting it put back together, if you want some info on the BNR stuff PM Mazdabation, he has some serious stage 3's on his FD. He should be able to fill you in on turn around time and any other little particulars.........if you're interested that is.


BTW I do feel your blown engine pain. I had a fresh 400km rebuild blow itself apart while cruising in vac a couple weeks ago
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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RX72Heaven,

Joined 2006 and 69 posts. So I gather you're a person trying to import a RHD FD??
Have you read the previous posts?? I remember there was a line mentioned this was a forum. People are entitled to their opinion. But obviously this is something you don't agree with.

I don't see how Chris Ng and I are "preaching" anything. We're just pointing out the obvious. There are plenty of other people on this forum thinking the same way but refuse to express their opinion simply because of the reaction they'll receive. Which is obviously what happened when you decided to rant about how we're all "kids" and should bugger off this thread.

You're so hell bent about getting a RHD FD for "cheap", go right ahead... We're not going to stop you. We're just trying to give you some friendly advice.

Football22,

I hope everything works out for you in the end. Keep us posted on the updates.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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im not ranting, and wtf does my join date or posts have to do with anything? Does it make my e-***** bigger with the more posts i have?

Theres a difference in expressing your opinion, but its different when your putting down others, who have a different opinion. Thats being a Linear thinking person to a "T." We understood your opinion 5 posts ago, but you seem to be trying to remind us every-other post, that you hate RHD FD's. We got it the first time, so move on to another topic, PLEASE!
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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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Suddenly I hate RHD FD's??

I'm not going to argue with you... no one will benefit from us bickering back and forth.
Saw the pics of your FD. Congrats on the purchase. Hope you can meet some of the fellow RX-7 drivers out there in Alberta.

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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I think the only RHD FD's which will have my utmost respect will be the 99spec-Spirit R FD's.
The ones you truely can't find here.

Otherwise I'm with Chris Ng regarding the whole RHD FD importing fad.
thats the comment that made me think you dont paticularly like JDM FD's. Im glad we can move on now.

And thank you for your kind words towards my FD. I havent purchased it yet, i only have a deposit, untill i test drive it and it is up to my expectations. And i am UBER excited for the Calgary meet in July!

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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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To keep this back on topic:

I just got off of the phone with greg at staffs auto and so far my bill is at $3000. This is for all of his labour, a newer housing, newer rotar, maybe apex seals, oil, filter, antifreeze and vaccuum lines. I still need to call around and get some prices on new injectors, side seals, oil seals, o-rings, corner seals and a engine rebuild kit. I will know a better tally of everything by tomorrow once I get my full list from Greg.
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