Non-turbo 428rwhp FD build up and history
07-22-12, 09:44 AM
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Just noticed you O ring the I lets where the TB bolts too, nice. My engine builder does the exact same thing on his PP motors. Much better than the racing beat style where silicone and clamps are used like a lot of people other people use. Have you decided on the compression of the 4rotor rotors yet?
There are some custom titanium being tested right now over here in the uk, over 100 miles so far and no problems yet.
There are some custom titanium being tested right now over here in the uk, over 100 miles so far and no problems yet.
07-23-12, 12:06 AM
#380
We all know Logan is a closet drifter. Last time I was at the shop snooping around, I found a hidden corner and discovered some hard evidence. A set of 19x12 -15 wheels with some 205s on them, a flat billed hat and skinny jeans. He sneaks out at night to the local "scene", hard parks it and calls everyone bro..
07-23-12, 12:16 AM
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We all know Logan is a closet drifter. Last time I was at the shop snooping around, I found a hidden corner and discovered some hard evidence. A set of 19x12 -15 wheels with some 205s on them, a flat billed hat and skinny jeans. He sneaks out at night to the local "scene", hard parks it and calls everyone bro..
On a side note, do you like the drysump/ alternator bracket assembly in the pic? I am machining up a duplicate for your car. So that is how it will look
07-23-12, 12:19 AM
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I was going to ask how that was working out, if youve had a chance to really test it at all. But yea it looks nice Also it seems like you have your new slide throttle setup on there, how does that seem to be doing? Is that the new design or the older one that you were having some binding issues with?
Also it seems like you have your new slide throttle setup on there, how does that seem to be doing? Is that the new design or the older one that you were having some binding issues with?
07-24-12, 12:39 AM
#384
I was going to ask how that was working out, if youve had a chance to really test it at all. But yea it looks nice Also it seems like you have your new slide throttle setup on there, how does that seem to be doing? Is that the new design or the older one that you were having some binding issues with?
Also it seems like you have your new slide throttle setup on there, how does that seem to be doing? Is that the new design or the older one that you were having some binding issues with?The slide throttle is a new one, the 1st design used teflon sliding surfaces and was hard to operate under load. This one I machined myself, and uses flat roller bearings, brass slider. VERY easy actuation even under full vaccum. Its my own very simple design all done on a manual mill. Turned out very nice looking though!
08-01-12, 10:00 AM
#387
Sir Braps A lot
just run a super short exhaust just because lol.
08-01-12, 10:13 AM
#388
Unfortunately my car will be coming back to PA where we have emissions testing. I remember when I sort of jokingly asked Logan if he things my car would pass an emissions test. It was sort of like when you make funny sounds to your dog and they **** their head to the side and just stare at you. Lol, he was like wtf are emissions 
10-01-12, 04:11 PM
#391
Beautiful! You are living a rotaryhead's dream! Thanks for sharing that with us
One question! What Engine management (ECU) are you planning to use? you're going to manage 12 sparkplugs, and 12 ignition coils. So I guess the maping will be a small challange when the engine is assembled and ready to be tuned. What are your plans for the Engine Management? I know that the 767 and 787 used 3 sparkplugs per rotorhouse. So it will be very interesting to see what kind of sollution you choose for the engine management!
One question! What Engine management (ECU) are you planning to use? you're going to manage 12 sparkplugs, and 12 ignition coils. So I guess the maping will be a small challange when the engine is assembled and ready to be tuned. What are your plans for the Engine Management? I know that the 767 and 787 used 3 sparkplugs per rotorhouse. So it will be very interesting to see what kind of sollution you choose for the engine management!
10-03-12, 02:06 AM
#392
Both projects are near a standstill at the moment. So much work to get caught up on, no time to do more R+D. Will have to create time soon however, its the only way we make new cool parts to sell to customers
It is using the Electromotive Tec3R, and we have a solution for the 12 spark plugs. Will be a little complex but not insane. Should run quite nice!
Here are some old pics of the 3-rotor assembled, and going into the new home/ nissan S14.
Pic of completed tube front end of the S14
Beautiful! You are living a rotaryhead's dream! Thanks for sharing that with us
One question! What Engine management (ECU) are you planning to use? you're going to manage 12 sparkplugs, and 12 ignition coils. So I guess the maping will be a small challange when the engine is assembled and ready to be tuned. What are your plans for the Engine Management? I know that the 767 and 787 used 3 sparkplugs per rotorhouse. So it will be very interesting to see what kind of sollution you choose for the engine management!
One question! What Engine management (ECU) are you planning to use? you're going to manage 12 sparkplugs, and 12 ignition coils. So I guess the maping will be a small challange when the engine is assembled and ready to be tuned. What are your plans for the Engine Management? I know that the 767 and 787 used 3 sparkplugs per rotorhouse. So it will be very interesting to see what kind of sollution you choose for the engine management!
Here are some old pics of the 3-rotor assembled, and going into the new home/ nissan S14.
Pic of completed tube front end of the S14
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11-18-12, 09:57 AM
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The s14 looks brilliant. Is it a full on race car now or you going to use it on the streets? Have you started assembly on the 4rotor?
I have been looking at 13B NA setups lately as I planning a track only car in the near furutre. A number of people are making 350fwhp but in different ways, some with PP setups and others with quad TBs on bridge ports, obviously there's more to the engine than the porting. What sort of HP have you had out of 13Bs and which setup did you find best?
I have been looking at 13B NA setups lately as I planning a track only car in the near furutre. A number of people are making 350fwhp but in different ways, some with PP setups and others with quad TBs on bridge ports, obviously there's more to the engine than the porting. What sort of HP have you had out of 13Bs and which setup did you find best?
11-23-12, 09:24 PM
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The s14 looks brilliant. Is it a full on race car now or you going to use it on the streets? Have you started assembly on the 4rotor?
I have been looking at 13B NA setups lately as I planning a track only car in the near furutre. A number of people are making 350fwhp but in different ways, some with PP setups and others with quad TBs on bridge ports, obviously there's more to the engine than the porting. What sort of HP have you had out of 13Bs and which setup did you find best?
I have been looking at 13B NA setups lately as I planning a track only car in the near furutre. A number of people are making 350fwhp but in different ways, some with PP setups and others with quad TBs on bridge ports, obviously there's more to the engine than the porting. What sort of HP have you had out of 13Bs and which setup did you find best?
The 4 rotor is very close to assembly, hit major speed bumps in the rotor/balancing. Otherwise she is ready.
We havent had time to re-visit the high hp n/a 2 rotor stuff, and dont really need to. Some quick division of our 3 rotor horsepower would make a 318 rwhp 2-rotor with semi p-port (identical setup) If we reach 500rwhp with the 20b that is a 334 rwhp 13b. Until the 4 rotor makes more power "per rotor" than the 3-rotor, semi p-port is still king for highest horsepower recorded.
12-24-12, 03:00 AM
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I like how you say "until the 4 rotor makes more power per rotor" are you expecting it to do that? Even with it being just PP.
I would expect the 3 plugs per rotor is going to help squeeze out that little bit extra for it to make more hp per rotor, but couldn't you do that to the 20B and get the same gains?
I would expect the 3 plugs per rotor is going to help squeeze out that little bit extra for it to make more hp per rotor, but couldn't you do that to the 20B and get the same gains?
12-24-12, 01:20 PM
#396
I like how you say "until the 4 rotor makes more power per rotor" are you expecting it to do that? Even with it being just PP.
I would expect the 3 plugs per rotor is going to help squeeze out that little bit extra for it to make more hp per rotor, but couldn't you do that to the 20B and get the same gains?
I would expect the 3 plugs per rotor is going to help squeeze out that little bit extra for it to make more hp per rotor, but couldn't you do that to the 20B and get the same gains?
We still are breaking in the 20b, but bad weather has pretty much put an end to that.. Here is a very short in-car video driving the Nissan for break-in.
Break-in Miles, Race Triple Rotor Nissan 240sx Defined Autoworks - YouTube
12-25-12, 12:02 PM
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They are set to zero split and i don't even perceive any difference. Which is awesome, i was afraid startup/idle or low rpm would be difficult to keep normal. Other good news is static compression reading is the same. So losing some compression is a wives tail :-)