My RX7/Rotary projects... formerly My Blk base build up..
09-28-13, 04:19 PM
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Why not call out the perpetrator that came in here making unsubstantiated accusations?
That seems ok in your book?
We are just dealing with what has been said.
Some questions came up on why everyone was being so dramatic about the accusation and the explanation is there is a lot of history and bad blood stemming from past issues.
They are not up for discussion in a public forum as far as I am concerned.
If that is some kind of hypocrisy then that's a new one to me!
Seems like its respectful to all involved to do so.
That seems ok in your book?
We are just dealing with what has been said.
Some questions came up on why everyone was being so dramatic about the accusation and the explanation is there is a lot of history and bad blood stemming from past issues.
They are not up for discussion in a public forum as far as I am concerned.
If that is some kind of hypocrisy then that's a new one to me!
Seems like its respectful to all involved to do so.
Sure!
To show the great glory of Rich's feature, here are the photos from the Modified Magazine..
09-28-13, 04:37 PM
#1503
More Photos of Rich's Car that "G" thinks it was rigged and doesn't think it deserves it..
Those Spirit R seats were in MUCH better condition than mine. Only those understand why having a mint Spirit R seats are so much harder than to just recovering them. Just look at all the new Mazda parts he put on this car.. Attention to detail was superb!!!
And here is the photographer MODIFIED MAGAZINE had pick to shoot Rich's Car and his comment...
Please READ his comment again... A completely un-bias guy, taking his time to join the forum and posting this comment.. I will SAY, NONE OF MY PHOTOGRAPHERS did this for me. NONE!!!! And i think I'm a pretty nice guy, offering to take them out to dinner and such... But RICH, He is a genuinely nice guy. This is another reason why I am SO ******* PISSED because this nice guy is getting what is one of high lights of his rotary ownership to be belittled by such false statement. Hope you guys understand my anger about this... as its not just about me.... Its also about others.. and consequent DGRR events and others who won as "G"'s statement carries over and god knows what others that don't know me, wanting to attend, wanting to enter the show, will think....
Those Spirit R seats were in MUCH better condition than mine. Only those understand why having a mint Spirit R seats are so much harder than to just recovering them. Just look at all the new Mazda parts he put on this car.. Attention to detail was superb!!!
And here is the photographer MODIFIED MAGAZINE had pick to shoot Rich's Car and his comment...
Hi guys! I'm the photographer that drove to Jersey to meet up with Rich and get his FD shot for Modified!
First of all, congrats to Rich on winning the DGRR, and subsequently the feature in Modified! Rich is a great guy and 100% deserving of this feature and more! I mean it when I say I've literally NEVER had a photoshoot go more pleasantly than this one with Rich and his car did. Absolutely top notch guy who even had spots picked out for me before I got there!
I wish these had been published much sooner than they had, but there is nothing I can do about that, and I'm just glad that Rich is happy with the feature!
And the car... forget it. Not that I've seen millions of FD's... but if I had, Rich's car might still be the cleanest, and the sexiest. Just drop dead gorgeous!
First of all, congrats to Rich on winning the DGRR, and subsequently the feature in Modified! Rich is a great guy and 100% deserving of this feature and more! I mean it when I say I've literally NEVER had a photoshoot go more pleasantly than this one with Rich and his car did. Absolutely top notch guy who even had spots picked out for me before I got there!
I wish these had been published much sooner than they had, but there is nothing I can do about that, and I'm just glad that Rich is happy with the feature!
And the car... forget it. Not that I've seen millions of FD's... but if I had, Rich's car might still be the cleanest, and the sexiest. Just drop dead gorgeous!
09-29-13, 10:40 AM
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I know I've never really had good luck with rotary shops since my Batmobile has a lot of unproven stuff done to it, making it very difficult to ever run right and my anxiety always getting the best of me while it's away, making me complete psychotic. But I know its day will come where it will win a show or a feature and tell a story. But I know that story is not ready to told yet. Maybe not for another 10 years...
I know I do not have any room to talk and I've been a total dick to some people. But we used to be a family where we all got along and helped each other. Gordon has helped me out with storing my car and Rich has rebuilt my engine when I got back from Iraq: these are just two examples of the help I've received. Without both of them, I do not know what I would have done. That help is what makes all of us a community. I just ask that we put our differences aside and become a community again.
09-30-13, 06:18 PM
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no. we'd just like an account of these events that you've eluded to. recounting events that took place is not an accusation, it's just a journal of what happened. people can come to their own conclusions afterward, which is exactly the opposite of what you're doing. you're basically saying gordo and david hayes are scum, but not willing to expound on the details that would substantiate or invalidate your claim. we want the opposite of that, just provide the facts and keep your accusations to yourselves.
again, it's your camp that that goes around talking about shedding light on the whole situation, getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free. then you turn around and say i only want to talk about what i want to talk about. everything else is a private matter, waah, waah, waah. i don't know how to better explain it to you, but that's the very definition of hypocrisy. either have a full open and honest discussion for the forum like you claim guys claim you want or stfu altogether.
09-30-13, 07:56 PM
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ummm, yeah that's pretty much exactly what it is.
are you so dense that you can't understand that you're the ones now making the accusations? you guys are the ones that have explicitly stated that there's more to the story. either spit it out or don't make the tip of the iceberg statement in the first place.
no. we'd just like an account of these events that you've eluded to. recounting events that took place is not an accusation, it's just a journal of what happened. people can come to their own conclusions afterward, which is exactly the opposite of what you're doing. you're basically saying gordo and david hayes are scum, but not willing to expound on the details that would substantiate or invalidate your claim. we want the opposite of that, just provide the facts and keep your accusations to yourselves.
again, it's your camp that that goes around talking about shedding light on the whole situation, getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free. then you turn around and say i only want to talk about what i want to talk about. everything else is a private matter, waah, waah, waah. i don't know how to better explain it to you, but that's the very definition of hypocrisy. either have a full open and honest discussion for the forum like you claim guys claim you want or stfu altogether.
are you so dense that you can't understand that you're the ones now making the accusations? you guys are the ones that have explicitly stated that there's more to the story. either spit it out or don't make the tip of the iceberg statement in the first place.
no. we'd just like an account of these events that you've eluded to. recounting events that took place is not an accusation, it's just a journal of what happened. people can come to their own conclusions afterward, which is exactly the opposite of what you're doing. you're basically saying gordo and david hayes are scum, but not willing to expound on the details that would substantiate or invalidate your claim. we want the opposite of that, just provide the facts and keep your accusations to yourselves.
again, it's your camp that that goes around talking about shedding light on the whole situation, getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free. then you turn around and say i only want to talk about what i want to talk about. everything else is a private matter, waah, waah, waah. i don't know how to better explain it to you, but that's the very definition of hypocrisy. either have a full open and honest discussion for the forum like you claim guys claim you want or stfu altogether.
You need adult supervision bud. You are so far off, it hurts to read. If you don't have a horse in this "race", stop trying to understand all the ins and outs and keep your moth shut. -J
10-01-13, 10:12 AM
#1512
Truth is what's in front of you.. Read What Gordon stated...
which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...
Gordon"
I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...
Gordon"
I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
10-03-13, 11:57 AM
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WOW, Just read through the whole thing. It boggles me that this is happening here. I love this forum because it is one of the few forum where there is a HUGE true brotherhood among us rotor heads and it suck to see it being broken down over some arguments/hearsay...whatever.
I just hope next year event, this will not affect it at all. I'll be moving back to Virginia during that time and I'm planning to attend for the first time as I will be driving by the area during that time. Lets just hope I can find an FD by then. Either way FD or Pathfinder I'm planning to be there.
I just hope next year event, this will not affect it at all. I'll be moving back to Virginia during that time and I'm planning to attend for the first time as I will be driving by the area during that time. Lets just hope I can find an FD by then. Either way FD or Pathfinder I'm planning to be there.
10-03-13, 02:10 PM
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listen for a second so i can this through your thick skulls. if you have nothing to say then don't come onto a discussion forum and insinuate some big secrets then in the same breath say but i don't want to talk about. if you have something to say, spit it out, if not then stfu altogether. how hard is this to understand. you guys are the ones that brought up the inferences to all the other unknown machinations as part of your attack on gordo. but if you refuse to corroborate your accusations with anectodal evidence, why bring it up in the first place? nobody put a gun to your heads to divulge the "tip of the iceberg"on a ******' - again say it with me now - public discussion forum.
if you have something to say, then spit it out. if not, then don't insinuate **** in the first place. but don't come on a discussion board and tell people something is none of their business.
10-03-13, 02:13 PM
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10-10-13, 06:20 PM
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Anyhow, Truth is what's in front of you.. Read What Gordon stated...
which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...
Gordon"
I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...
Gordon"
I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
