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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Can I see some more car pictures please.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
Why not call out the perpetrator that came in here making unsubstantiated accusations?
That seems ok in your book?

We are just dealing with what has been said.

Some questions came up on why everyone was being so dramatic about the accusation and the explanation is there is a lot of history and bad blood stemming from past issues.
They are not up for discussion in a public forum as far as I am concerned.

If that is some kind of hypocrisy then that's a new one to me!
Seems like its respectful to all involved to do so.
I agree with Zoom Zoom. Like I have stated before, I have heard alot about "G", and through my current experience on my build thread, I am now believer of other stories. I also had an incident shortly after my disconnect with "G" over 3 months ago, but I wouldn't go into details because that's not whats important here. But just because I'm now a believer of that does not mean I need to disclose what I have heard on public forum. Its not my place and my bigger concern is what's at hand and what clearly is a false accusation of my character, my event, those involved in the event, and ultimately belittling Rich's feature on Modified Magazine.

Originally Posted by Grant M
Can I see some more car pictures please.
Sure!

To show the great glory of Rich's feature, here are the photos from the Modified Magazine..









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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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More Photos of Rich's Car that "G" thinks it was rigged and doesn't think it deserves it..







Those Spirit R seats were in MUCH better condition than mine. Only those understand why having a mint Spirit R seats are so much harder than to just recovering them. Just look at all the new Mazda parts he put on this car.. Attention to detail was superb!!!

And here is the photographer MODIFIED MAGAZINE had pick to shoot Rich's Car and his comment...

Originally Posted by TallboyPhotography
Hi guys! I'm the photographer that drove to Jersey to meet up with Rich and get his FD shot for Modified!

First of all, congrats to Rich on winning the DGRR, and subsequently the feature in Modified! Rich is a great guy and 100% deserving of this feature and more! I mean it when I say I've literally NEVER had a photoshoot go more pleasantly than this one with Rich and his car did. Absolutely top notch guy who even had spots picked out for me before I got there!

I wish these had been published much sooner than they had, but there is nothing I can do about that, and I'm just glad that Rich is happy with the feature!

And the car... forget it. Not that I've seen millions of FD's... but if I had, Rich's car might still be the cleanest, and the sexiest. Just drop dead gorgeous!
Please READ his comment again... A completely un-bias guy, taking his time to join the forum and posting this comment.. I will SAY, NONE OF MY PHOTOGRAPHERS did this for me. NONE!!!! And i think I'm a pretty nice guy, offering to take them out to dinner and such... But RICH, He is a genuinely nice guy. This is another reason why I am SO ******* PISSED because this nice guy is getting what is one of high lights of his rotary ownership to be belittled by such false statement. Hope you guys understand my anger about this... as its not just about me.... Its also about others.. and consequent DGRR events and others who won as "G"'s statement carries over and god knows what others that don't know me, wanting to attend, wanting to enter the show, will think....
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Love that alternator pulley. Awesome.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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yeah that alternator pulley takes the cake. that is an amazing car. i saw it at dgrr 2012 but didn't actually get a chance to look at it that closely.


so, can we all quit crying about gordon and see some more pictures / updates on phil's FD?
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Just found out Rays Gram Light 57FXX will be available in 18s..




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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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i can't believe anyone would want to undermine that car winning a car show...
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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Loving the SakeBomb's AP Racing brakes and these T1-Sport Toyo Tires are pretty awesome!

I always wondered what an FD3S would look like in matte black. I can say it looks beautiful

I know I've never really had good luck with rotary shops since my Batmobile has a lot of unproven stuff done to it, making it very difficult to ever run right and my anxiety always getting the best of me while it's away, making me complete psychotic. But I know its day will come where it will win a show or a feature and tell a story. But I know that story is not ready to told yet. Maybe not for another 10 years...

I know I do not have any room to talk and I've been a total dick to some people. But we used to be a family where we all got along and helped each other. Gordon has helped me out with storing my car and Rich has rebuilt my engine when I got back from Iraq: these are just two examples of the help I've received. Without both of them, I do not know what I would have done. That help is what makes all of us a community. I just ask that we put our differences aside and become a community again.
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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That is a great car.

Now some 20B turbo please??
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
So saying there is a lot more to this story and its just the tip of the Iceberg is a "Veiled Accusation"?
ummm, yeah that's pretty much exactly what it is.

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
I think it's been made clear that making accusations in an open forum hurting someone's reputation shouldn't be tolerated.
are you so dense that you can't understand that you're the ones now making the accusations? you guys are the ones that have explicitly stated that there's more to the story. either spit it out or don't make the tip of the iceberg statement in the first place.

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
So now you want us to do it too?
no. we'd just like an account of these events that you've eluded to. recounting events that took place is not an accusation, it's just a journal of what happened. people can come to their own conclusions afterward, which is exactly the opposite of what you're doing. you're basically saying gordo and david hayes are scum, but not willing to expound on the details that would substantiate or invalidate your claim. we want the opposite of that, just provide the facts and keep your accusations to yourselves.

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
They are not up for discussion in a public forum as far as I am concerned.
again, it's your camp that that goes around talking about shedding light on the whole situation, getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free. then you turn around and say i only want to talk about what i want to talk about. everything else is a private matter, waah, waah, waah. i don't know how to better explain it to you, but that's the very definition of hypocrisy. either have a full open and honest discussion for the forum like you claim guys claim you want or stfu altogether.
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fdracer
ummm, yeah that's pretty much exactly what it is.



are you so dense that you can't understand that you're the ones now making the accusations? you guys are the ones that have explicitly stated that there's more to the story. either spit it out or don't make the tip of the iceberg statement in the first place.



no. we'd just like an account of these events that you've eluded to. recounting events that took place is not an accusation, it's just a journal of what happened. people can come to their own conclusions afterward, which is exactly the opposite of what you're doing. you're basically saying gordo and david hayes are scum, but not willing to expound on the details that would substantiate or invalidate your claim. we want the opposite of that, just provide the facts and keep your accusations to yourselves.



again, it's your camp that that goes around talking about shedding light on the whole situation, getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free. then you turn around and say i only want to talk about what i want to talk about. everything else is a private matter, waah, waah, waah. i don't know how to better explain it to you, but that's the very definition of hypocrisy. either have a full open and honest discussion for the forum like you claim guys claim you want or stfu altogether.
You need adult supervision bud. You are so far off, it hurts to read. If you don't have a horse in this "race", stop trying to understand all the ins and outs and keep your moth shut.

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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fdracer
getting everything out in the open, and that truth will set us free.
Truth is what's in front of you.. Read What Gordon stated...

which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...

Gordon"

I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fdracer

and for the record, i have alot of inside info on rich and phil and how they truly operate at these meets and car shows. let's just say you guys don't know the half of what goes on behind the scenes. i promised that i wouldn't get into it, so let's leave it at that.
You really present redeeming qualities with your post here. Your credibility is almost as good as Wikipedia. Where's this inside CIA/FBI/NHTSA/Top Secret information you speak of? Oh, and you should have kept your promise.
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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poor FDRacer, he must have raced his fd too hard
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Old Oct 1, 2013 | 10:03 PM
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This can only be solved by a poll thread about who's car is the most mad tyte sickest and in the house...and errybawdy has to post 6 pictures of their overnight parts from japan Rx7.

Or else.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 06:58 AM
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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WOW, Just read through the whole thing. It boggles me that this is happening here. I love this forum because it is one of the few forum where there is a HUGE true brotherhood among us rotor heads and it suck to see it being broken down over some arguments/hearsay...whatever.

I just hope next year event, this will not affect it at all. I'll be moving back to Virginia during that time and I'm planning to attend for the first time as I will be driving by the area during that time. Lets just hope I can find an FD by then. Either way FD or Pathfinder I'm planning to be there.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla RE
You need adult supervision bud. You are so far off, it hurts to read. If you don't have a horse in this "race", stop trying to understand all the ins and outs and keep your moth shut.

-J
seriously, how stupid are you people? you morons come onto a public forum to say something's none of our business? that's like holding a press conference just to tell everyone you have nothing to discuss.

listen for a second so i can this through your thick skulls. if you have nothing to say then don't come onto a discussion forum and insinuate some big secrets then in the same breath say but i don't want to talk about. if you have something to say, spit it out, if not then stfu altogether. how hard is this to understand. you guys are the ones that brought up the inferences to all the other unknown machinations as part of your attack on gordo. but if you refuse to corroborate your accusations with anectodal evidence, why bring it up in the first place? nobody put a gun to your heads to divulge the "tip of the iceberg"on a ******' - again say it with me now - public discussion forum.

if you have something to say, then spit it out. if not, then don't insinuate **** in the first place. but don't come on a discussion board and tell people something is none of their business.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 02:13 PM
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Where's this inside CIA/FBI/NHTSA/Top Secret information you speak of?
that's none of your business so keep your trap shut. it's secret information that i don't want to talk about.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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Sounds like Gordon has found a lacky that will try and divert attention away from the fact that he slandered Phil and his event. Grow a pair Gordo and come with your proof.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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Where is the track day at where youre running at?
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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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that's none of your business so keep your trap shut. it's secret information that i don't want to talk about.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Anyhow, Truth is what's in front of you.. Read What Gordon stated...

which is, "Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...

Gordon"

I'm not going to go trying to dig something else about the man just to prove he said or did something worse.. All I care about is what's in front of me that's already stated by him about me. Its not someone else's interpretation of what he said, or did, but looking at his own words.
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Old Oct 21, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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"Phil hates David Hayes and myself, because we caught them cheating on the DGRR car show in 2011. It was rigged for Rich (goodfella) to win best of show and we caught them at it. I try to be polite for the community's sake, but...

Gordon"
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 01:52 AM
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You sir I take my hat off to

Your cars look immaculate and the use of hard to find Rare items make it so much more awesome!
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