Mannykillers/ AAPARKAH Street/time Attack/Drift Build (heavy Pics) #Thisisthewolf
02-19-13, 03:41 PM
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^ oh I completely understand what you are saying. But all the OEM sensors will be run through the adaptronic. Their whole "motto" if you would call it that is that they utilize OEM sensors so that all of the above things you mentioned can be monitored. Also in my experience never once have a seen a motor go from 75 Celsius to 110 in an instant. I assure you if the temp gets anywhere in the dangerous zone I'll know before it gets even close. Have you read all of the features of the P & P version?
Well I could've gone with one of the 1280s but truthfully..I just don't don't need it. The Plug & Play select is ideal for my application. ....Stock to mild upgraded cars don't run aftermarket Triggers =-)
Well I could've gone with one of the 1280s but truthfully..I just don't don't need it. The Plug & Play select is ideal for my application. ....Stock to mild upgraded cars don't run aftermarket Triggers =-)
02-19-13, 04:47 PM
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....which is a huge advantage since I already have it. Also, you can set up fuel/Ignition cut.......one or the other or both if you'd want. I'll be setting up the Ignition cut.
The Dual Powered by Max EGT's will be in plain sight, as well as my Oil Temp, Water Temp. I'll be using the oem Oil pressure guage as it's never given me any problems =-)
The support you get when you run Adaptronic really is second to none as well. I mean I can get in touch with the owner daily If I needed to. For me the Plug and Play version is the perfect ecu for me. I really don't need anything more. What are your reasons for going with another ecu?
(international call)I dont think you do.
But all the OEM sensors will be run through the adaptronic. Their whole "motto" if you would call it that is that they utilize OEM sensors so that all of the above things you mentioned can be monitored.
Also in my experience never once have a seen a motor go from 75 Celsius to 110 in an instant. I assure you if the temp gets anywhere in the dangerous zone I'll know before it gets even close.
Have you read all of the features of the P & P version?
I do like that you can do VE tuning with staged injection. You have that over the Haltech
Well I could've gone with one of the 1280s but truthfully..I just don't don't need it. The Plug & Play select is ideal for my application. ....Stock to mild upgraded cars don't run aftermarket Triggers =-)
02-19-13, 05:04 PM
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i don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that something could happen, like cracked oil cooler, or whatever, where you could start losing oil on the track without noticing. i mean, i'll usually glance over at my temps 3 or 4 times in a lap, but you can't possibly say you're on top of everything AND driving to your full potential (if you're on a road course, and/or drifting)
how does the oil pressure fail-safe work? is it a function of rpm?
how does the oil pressure fail-safe work? is it a function of rpm?
02-19-13, 05:18 PM
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i don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that something could happen, like cracked oil cooler, or whatever, where you could start losing oil on the track without noticing. i mean, i'll usually glance over at my temps 3 or 4 times in a lap, but you can't possibly say you're on top of everything AND driving to your full potential (if you're on a road course, and/or drifting)
how does the oil pressure fail-safe work? is it a function of rpm?
how does the oil pressure fail-safe work? is it a function of rpm?
Haltech Engine Protection
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps197b7a51.png
AEM Engine Protection
http://www.aemelectronics.com/files/...on_series2.jpg
02-20-13, 03:34 AM
#1205
That does not help when there is a catastrophic failure and you do not see it on the gauges because there is not enough time. The engine protection parameters can react in miliseconds.
That is great that you can contact the owner everyday if you want, but dosent that get expensive (international call).
That is great that you can contact the owner everyday if you want, but dosent that get expensive
(international call).I think I do and I think you should get a life
THink they sell pegasus prevention kits as well? I have; no ability to datalog without wiring in an extra box seems foolish (same as datalogit on PFC). No engine protection parameters is another I do not like and no flex fuel capability without needing another converter box.
I do like that you can do VE tuning with staged injection. You have that over the Haltech
I think there were better options for only a few $$$ extra.
I do like that you can do VE tuning with staged injection. You have that over the Haltech
I think there were better options for only a few $$$ extra.
Anyways More updates in the morning. Did a lot of buttoning up tonight
02-20-13, 06:36 AM
#1206
Can you show me where these protection parameters are? Im going through the software, but I cant find it. All I am seeing is overboost protection (powerFC has this) and throttle over-run.
I am genuinely interested in this ECU because there seems to be alot of hype built up about it on this forum lately. I am just struggling to see why
02-20-13, 12:05 PM
#1212
^ Well thats a personal problem you may want to address as more than a few random people have actually pm'd me asking what your problem is. But i'm not gonna get into that. Back to the build.
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Updates:
Adaptronic ECU came in from Turblown! I'm amped!
I was also able to re-use my OEM power steering Hardline that i've kept this whole time. I was going to replace it but I like having the extra "looped" line. I am thinking about adding a little Cooler to the mix though. More on that later. It fit nicely in the pocket and didn't need to move or mod anything to mount it securely etc.
Once that was done I got carried away with making sure everything was secure and tight under the car. Found my sway bar bolts loose, one Radiator hose loose, radiator drain opened up in the "drain" position and a couple other little bolts that needed to be tightened.
Then I finally got around to fully installing my ABS delete Kit from A-rod. It's a nice little kit. But I've noticed that I may be over-tightening things. I hate leaks..and sometimes I find myself what seems like over-tightening fittings. I'm not exactly how tight these brake line fittings need to be but I got them pretty damn tight.
anyways...pic:
So Brake system just needs Fluid now. What fluids are you guys using?
Filled Power steering fluid back up but still need a little more.
About to Order Motor fluids if I could find a vendor that everything I need.
diff gear oil & addative
Transmission fluid
Motor oil: synthetic
But when I get home today I'm going to install the Dual EGT's because I didn't get around to doing that yesterday. I also need to get on making a little mounting plate for the dual PBM Digital EGT guages. Lots to do... Just gonna keep plugging away at the list! More updates soon!
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Updates:
Adaptronic ECU came in from Turblown! I'm amped!
I was also able to re-use my OEM power steering Hardline that i've kept this whole time. I was going to replace it but I like having the extra "looped" line. I am thinking about adding a little Cooler to the mix though. More on that later. It fit nicely in the pocket and didn't need to move or mod anything to mount it securely etc.
Once that was done I got carried away with making sure everything was secure and tight under the car. Found my sway bar bolts loose, one Radiator hose loose, radiator drain opened up in the "drain" position and a couple other little bolts that needed to be tightened.
Then I finally got around to fully installing my ABS delete Kit from A-rod. It's a nice little kit. But I've noticed that I may be over-tightening things. I hate leaks..and sometimes I find myself what seems like over-tightening fittings. I'm not exactly how tight these brake line fittings need to be but I got them pretty damn tight.
anyways...pic:
So Brake system just needs Fluid now. What fluids are you guys using?
Filled Power steering fluid back up but still need a little more.
About to Order Motor fluids if I could find a vendor that everything I need.
diff gear oil & addative
Transmission fluid
Motor oil: synthetic
But when I get home today I'm going to install the Dual EGT's because I didn't get around to doing that yesterday. I also need to get on making a little mounting plate for the dual PBM Digital EGT guages. Lots to do... Just gonna keep plugging away at the list! More updates soon!
02-20-13, 05:38 PM
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Now that the engine is in there the bay looks absolutely sick with the pink. I love it!
I'm wondering about new ECUs myself. I have a PFC at the moment, and its kind of rough to figure out. I keep hearing about how much easier and better other ECUs are, but I don't want to spend too much on one since I already have one and can use that money for other stuff before that.
Keep up the amazing build Aaron!
I'm wondering about new ECUs myself. I have a PFC at the moment, and its kind of rough to figure out. I keep hearing about how much easier and better other ECUs are, but I don't want to spend too much on one since I already have one and can use that money for other stuff before that.
Keep up the amazing build Aaron!
02-21-13, 11:25 AM
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hah...funny I saved that wrestling pic too.
I went ahead with the Motul...rich.. endless brake fluid was a little toooo rich for my blood haha. Either way I just spent 322 bucks on Fluids...and I didn't even get Coolant yet.. Yikes. Rich..where do you order your Evans NPG from? any place that sells it a little cheaper?
Little Update:
went ahead and re-did my ABS delete lines. I really didn't like the way they were routed and they'll get in the way of where I'm going to end up mounting my AEM coils. So I used the banjo fittings to get them in more accessible place....but still out of the way.
other side
I thought I took a picture of the end product but I guess I forgot. Finally got arount to installing the EGT probes...but then when I was done I found a curious little brass collar on the ground and I could've sworn I saw the same one on the inside of the EGT coupler that fastens it securely in place when you tighten in. Much like a swiveling An fitting. And now that I think of it...it makes sense why it wasn't getting tight hah. So i'll have to pull out the Front housing bung and put the little brass collar back in place.....damn pain hah.
done...or so I thought at the time =-)
And I also went to Autozone and found a TPS that should work. Sending my rywire harness back to rywire today with the TPS so he can match and change the plug on my harness to fit this one. Glad I have the Adaptronic though=-)
Got around to getting a brass fitting for my Brake booster as well. I'm going to cut off the ugly prong and put a nice -6 fitting on there so the line doesn't shoot straight up and arc all retarded like hah. But till I get my tap tonight or tomorrow i'll have to keep it the way it is. I also need to figure out some type of Vac-block so that I'll have a source for the map sensor etc. I really want to get 2 little Vac-ports welded onto my LIM so that I can perform steam cleans easily. The OEM one has 2 perfect little nipples that were convieniently placed which made steam cleans really easy. The excessive one has none..i'll have to figure out what i'm going to do with that. Also, need to get a little pump and hose to fill my trans/diff lubes so I don't spill. I hate spilling that stuff. Theres really a lot to do...... I need to re-wire my fuel pumps...was thinking of doing exactly what tom (theorie) did with his set-up as it seems pretty legit and fail-safe. And the only major thing I really need to complete....which I keep putting off is Pulling the carpet removing the Sound deadening and installing my Body harness.. I guess it's not a small task. But It's something I really want to get done. As some of you may know I got started on installing the Body harness about 5 months ago but then the guy that was helping me kinda went MIA...and when I looked at the harness.....it was completely hacked. I had no idea where he was, what he'd moved and anything he'd done to the harness so I ended up sourcing an un-touched harness and decided i'd start over on my own. It'll be time consuming but better that I do it and know where everything is than someone else ya know? So with that said....i'm much closer...but there is still lots to do before I can start the car. Then it has to look good as well... haha. Speaking of which...the Advan TCIII's are on order for my fronts. The offsets are kinda crappy but nothing spacers won't take care of. I went with 18x9.5 +45 in Dark Gunmetal. The rears are already on the car 18x11+20. ...Stay tuned for Updates!
I went ahead with the Motul...rich.. endless brake fluid was a little toooo rich for my blood haha. Either way I just spent 322 bucks on Fluids...and I didn't even get Coolant yet.. Yikes. Rich..where do you order your Evans NPG from? any place that sells it a little cheaper?
Little Update:
went ahead and re-did my ABS delete lines. I really didn't like the way they were routed and they'll get in the way of where I'm going to end up mounting my AEM coils. So I used the banjo fittings to get them in more accessible place....but still out of the way.
other side
I thought I took a picture of the end product but I guess I forgot. Finally got arount to installing the EGT probes...but then when I was done I found a curious little brass collar on the ground and I could've sworn I saw the same one on the inside of the EGT coupler that fastens it securely in place when you tighten in. Much like a swiveling An fitting. And now that I think of it...it makes sense why it wasn't getting tight hah. So i'll have to pull out the Front housing bung and put the little brass collar back in place.....damn pain hah.
done...or so I thought at the time =-)
And I also went to Autozone and found a TPS that should work. Sending my rywire harness back to rywire today with the TPS so he can match and change the plug on my harness to fit this one. Glad I have the Adaptronic though=-)
Got around to getting a brass fitting for my Brake booster as well. I'm going to cut off the ugly prong and put a nice -6 fitting on there so the line doesn't shoot straight up and arc all retarded like hah. But till I get my tap tonight or tomorrow i'll have to keep it the way it is. I also need to figure out some type of Vac-block so that I'll have a source for the map sensor etc. I really want to get 2 little Vac-ports welded onto my LIM so that I can perform steam cleans easily. The OEM one has 2 perfect little nipples that were convieniently placed which made steam cleans really easy. The excessive one has none..i'll have to figure out what i'm going to do with that. Also, need to get a little pump and hose to fill my trans/diff lubes so I don't spill. I hate spilling that stuff. Theres really a lot to do...... I need to re-wire my fuel pumps...was thinking of doing exactly what tom (theorie) did with his set-up as it seems pretty legit and fail-safe. And the only major thing I really need to complete....which I keep putting off is Pulling the carpet removing the Sound deadening and installing my Body harness.. I guess it's not a small task. But It's something I really want to get done. As some of you may know I got started on installing the Body harness about 5 months ago but then the guy that was helping me kinda went MIA...and when I looked at the harness.....it was completely hacked. I had no idea where he was, what he'd moved and anything he'd done to the harness so I ended up sourcing an un-touched harness and decided i'd start over on my own. It'll be time consuming but better that I do it and know where everything is than someone else ya know? So with that said....i'm much closer...but there is still lots to do before I can start the car. Then it has to look good as well... haha. Speaking of which...the Advan TCIII's are on order for my fronts. The offsets are kinda crappy but nothing spacers won't take care of. I went with 18x9.5 +45 in Dark Gunmetal. The rears are already on the car 18x11+20. ...Stay tuned for Updates!
02-22-13, 07:29 AM
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02-22-13, 12:21 PM
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^ a steam clean is pretty much just sucking or injesting water or sea-foam into the motor while it's running. You hook up a single or dual vac lines to the LIM and the other side of the line goes into a gallon of distilled water or sea-foam. The motor sucks it up and pretty much the water turns to steam and cleans carbon out of the motor. Some people do it to free up what they think might be a stuck side seal etc. I do it because it really does clean up carbon build up in the motor. My new motor/set-up was put together to help prevent carbon build up at the source. But It wouldn't hurt to do a steam clean every once in a while just in case. Thats just my opinion though =-)
02-22-13, 12:46 PM
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^ a steam clean is pretty much just sucking or injesting water or sea-foam into the motor while it's running. You hook up a single or dual vac lines to the LIM and the other side of the line goes into a gallon of distilled water or sea-foam. The motor sucks it up and pretty much the water turns to steam and cleans carbon out of the motor. Some people do it to free up what they think might be a stuck side seal etc. I do it because it really does clean up carbon build up in the motor. My new motor/set-up was put together to help prevent carbon build up at the source. But It wouldn't hurt to do a steam clean every once in a while just in case. Thats just my opinion though =-)
Didn't know people still did that or how it would affect a rotary.