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Old 10-18-10, 12:37 AM
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ask elliot himself how much he charged me for the radiator........... if u look on the local rx7 forum someone that actually saw my car at last years sevenstock said my cars paint job looked like new and i dont even know that person. man explain that **** engine job to me and give me a real good explanation on that bridgeporting job thats not only uneven on both sides but completely trashed.

Elliot knows i am right about the radiator why do u think he is not saying anything about it????
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Originally Posted by BigTurbo74
I like how you use a photo that doesn't show the bracing that Elliot put on your car too( for the FMIC install). You are being very deceitful. I have never seen him charge more than $200 to put a radiator in, which has been several cars. Your buddy Miro is also to be a very well known liar around this state. Besides that the previous owner of your car put that hood on, and it was pretty well beat up from being slammed down, and your car has always looked " pink ".

There are also a lot of people coming forward in the good business section sticking up for him. Pretty hard for a shop to be very busy in this bad economy if they aren't doing good work.
You were not there long enough to actually say something about miro that goes back wayyyyyy back. dude i did actually paid him 800 bucks and it was right before seven stock last year i remember it like it was yesterday because that was the last time my car was reliable. No my car was not always pink you came into the picture when he already had my car. Did he send you to do some lying for him, i actually thought u were cool but i guess not.
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Originally Posted by BigTurbo74
I like how you use a photo that doesn't show the bracing that Elliot put on your car too( for the FMIC install). You are being very deceitful. I have never seen him charge more than $200 to put a radiator in, which has been several cars. Your buddy Miro is also to be a very well known liar around this state. Besides that the previous owner of your car put that hood on, and it was pretty well beat up from being slammed down, and your car has always looked " pink ".

There are also a lot of people coming forward in the good business section sticking up for him. Pretty hard for a shop to be very busy in this bad economy if they aren't doing good work.
Hey you are calling me a liar? I was looking through the turblown website and what do ya know........ he actually still has pictures of my car on his damn website!! http://www.turblown.net/fab.html check out that red fd with the upside down fmic, that is my car and another pic of my car on his website http://www.turblown.net/services.html the second link shows the car in the background on the lift with a black rx7 under it. NOW WHO IS THE LIAR!!!!
Old 10-18-10, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by amunoz3

and yes THAT BAR IS STRUCTURAL...... you must not even own an fd.

i know im not worried about karma.
yep, ur right, never owned one in my life...

any piece of metal on a car that you can push on with one finger and bend/flex is NOT structural. try pushing on the frame rail and tell me what happens, nothing! and i love how you fail to post the pic with the support bars that were put in. lol

i think the best part is you claim that you could have "done the twins yourself" yet you put a FD flywheel on a S4 Tii rotating assembly? and then couldnt figure out why your motor was trashed?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha

good luck bro
Old 10-18-10, 02:29 PM
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i hate to break it to you guys, but that bar that is cut is not structural at all. and like mentioned above, it can easily be replaced. and thats what you get for getting an ets front mount.

Are you a mechanical engineer?
Old 10-18-10, 04:21 PM
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I never paid for T2 parts. Elliot was aware of the manual swap that was done and never said a word or a heads up because that is not the reason for the blown engine. T2 parts just happen to show up later after the engine was completely apart and elliot had to make up an excuse. I probably could of kept my car auto and what........ he would of made up some story of how my 3rd gen auto tranny cant hook up to a t2 rotating assembly and thats what blew my motor. I have many witnesses and well known rotary builders that witnessed my engine being disassembled, if i knew that the flywheel was the issue then i would take full responsibility. Besides........ was elliot there to see my flywheel?... no. How can he even start to blame what blew the engine when he was not there to witness anything at all..........
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Originally Posted by dregg100
yep, ur right, never owned one in my life...

any piece of metal on a car that you can push on with one finger and bend/flex is NOT structural. try pushing on the frame rail and tell me what happens, nothing! and i love how you fail to post the pic with the support bars that were put in. lol

i think the best part is you claim that you could have "done the twins yourself" yet you put a FD flywheel on a S4 Tii rotating assembly? and then couldnt figure out why your motor was trashed?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha

good luck bro
I am calling out all the fd owners in the rx7 club. Can you bend flex the front frame that your latch attaches too?

i never claimed that i can do the twins myself. the only thing i ever said that was maybe close to that is......... "If i wanted to do any experimentation to my car i would have done it myself, when i expect a shop to do the work for me it should be done once and never worry about it again".

Moderator please, this guy obviously does not know what he is talking about nor does he even own an fd for that matter and he is suppose to know more than everybody, obviously.

That pic was taken by Elliot himself. Why dont you ask him why he didnt put the brackets on before he took his own picture? To be honest.... the picture looks a lot better like this if i posted one with the brackets on there it would look so much worse. Those brackets are ghetto as hell and nothing like that is going to fly on my fd.
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Originally Posted by amunoz3
I am calling out all the fd owners in the rx7 club. Can you bend flex the front frame that your latch attaches too?
yes, it's pretty flimsy but i don't know how your going to mount your bumper with out those pieces that were cut out.

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Originally Posted by S14.3REW
yes, it's pretty flimsy but i don't know how your going to mount your bumper with out those pieces that were cut out.
it doesnt. Elliot cut my bumper out and no longer has supports that hold it in place right there. its just loose and the bumper sticks up on one side more than the other it looks ugly.

Well if its flimsy then im sorry but i dont remember how it felt to have that bar piece. Still should not be cut though.
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Originally Posted by amunoz3
Still should not be cut though.
Agreed
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Originally Posted by S14.3REW
yes, it's pretty flimsy but i don't know how your going to mount your bumper with out those pieces that were cut out.

Flimsy or not there is a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to stress, strain, and support.

Ever notice how a car's handling improves when a simple strut bar is added? Well what do you think it's going to happen to the rigidness of the car when one removes a key connection that joins two seperate halves, which coincidentally happen to be the farthest point from the center of gravity.

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I take my comment back.....

I thought we were talking about the upper bar where the bumper and hood latch connects which i think isn't structural but looking at your picture again your also missing the main support that Montego is talking about which is important. So yah that piece is needed and to answer OP question again it isn't easily bendable.
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Originally Posted by amunoz3
OH WOW THAT BRACING WOW THAT MEANS I AM NOW GOING TO BE SAFE IF I GET IN A WRECK WOW............. yea he put braces on that **** it looks ghetto as hell too. i dont care about the bracing the fact is that he cut my car without asking me thats the whole point. Look he was stating on that no pistons forum saying that he should be done with my twin turbos LOL....... hmmm so sad never even finished.
Alright, look--lets you and me get this straight right now.

DOES YOUR CAR HAVE ANY BRACES PUT IN PLACE OF THE CUTS?

Does your engine bay look like the pic I attached below, Or does it look like the pic you posted?

I am SICK TO HELL of the dishonesty in this thread. Yeah, I get it, he shouldnt have cut your car without checking with you first, but this had better be the LAST TIME that you pull a stunt like this in here. If he put new supports in there, you dont have any business posting a pic and leading us to believe that he did not. Is that clear? It had better be...

One more thing that jumps out at me on this...if it really was such a problem that he cut that bar, why are we only hearing about it from you a year after the fact? BELIEVE ME, if a shop did that to my car, it would be known IMMEDIATELY that I wasnt happy. You were apparently only concerned about it when there were other problems. At no time did you make any mention of complaining about it to him, nor did you make any mention of him saying he would make it better, or anything of the sort. This tells me that the only reason youre complaining about it now is to try to build your case against him for the issues with the motor.

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Originally Posted by rx7roller02
Alright, look--lets you and me get this straight right now.

DOES YOUR CAR HAVE ANY BRACES PUT IN PLACE OF THE CUTS?

Does your engine bay look like the pic I attached below, Or does it look like the pic you posted?

I am SICK TO HELL of the dishonesty in this thread. Yeah, I get it, he shouldnt have cut your car without checking with you first, but this had better be the LAST TIME that you pull a stunt like this in here. If he put new supports in there, you dont have any business posting a pic and leading us to believe that he did not. Is that clear? It had better be...

One more thing that jumps out at me on this...if it really was such a problem that he cut that bar, why are we only hearing about it from you a year after the fact? BELIEVE ME, if a shop did that to my car, it would be known IMMEDIATELY that I wasnt happy. You were apparently only concerned about it when there were other problems. At no time did you make any mention of complaining about it to him, nor did you make any mention of him saying he would make it better, or anything of the sort. This tells me that the only reason youre complaining about it now is to try to build your case against him for the issues with the motor.
My car does look exactly like that picture, I was just trying to prove a point on the fact that he did some cutting without me saying yes as a warning for others.

i never knew the seriousness of that bar that was cut but when i actually did the teardown myself and a couple of rx7 people got involved thats when they let me know that its serious. It was a year ago and i should have spoke up on him then but i never wanted to complain because i was afraid my car was never going to get done.

In respect for you if i ever post pics again i will let you approve of them first.
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Originally Posted by amunoz3
but i never wanted to complain because i was afraid my car was never going to get done.
If there is a problem you speak up right away! Dont hide in a shadow for a year then come out crying about this and that. If you spoke up a year sooner maybe things wouldnt be the way they are and you would find another shop to do business with. You have had so many problems with this shop but kept dealing with it? F-that, find new shop. Just my 2 cents and good luck to everyone. bye
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I agree--you found out a year ago that this guy hacked your car.....and you said nothing because you wanted the car to be done? Done how?? HACKED? Or done right?

Think about how youre sounding right now, it isnt making any sense. You wanted your car finished, but the guy that you wanted to finish the car was doing that kind of stuff. How much money, EXACTLY, did you spend with his shop on this car?
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Originally Posted by rx7roller02
I agree--you found out a year ago that this guy hacked your car.....and you said nothing because you wanted the car to be done? Done how?? HACKED? Or done right?

Think about how youre sounding right now, it isnt making any sense. You wanted your car finished, but the guy that you wanted to finish the car was doing that kind of stuff. How much money, EXACTLY, did you spend with his shop on this car?
if you want i will be more than happy to explain everything that you want to know over the phone. its a little hard explaining here on the forum.
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sad to see this thread. Especially since you were so stoked to get the work done initially.
So what ever happened with your auto tranny?
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
sad to see this thread. Especially since you were so stoked to get the work done initially.
So what ever happened with your auto tranny?
i still have my auto tranny sitting aside its in like new condition still and im trying to sell it for what Elliot made me pay for the torque converter. I dont know if your still cool with Elliot Nick, but man enough is enough i cant keep giving him money and getting nothing in return its my own hard owned money dude. I hate that it had come to this but man its even shocking to me. When i confronted Elliot about all these bad engine parts man he acted childish and i had no choice but to put him on the spot.

I am so grateful for everyone that had helped me on this thread, and all the great rotary builders that had came up and helped me out a lot. I have gotten rotary engine parts practically for free its amazing i feel like it is a blessing, ill never forget you guys.
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I don't know all the facts, and have been removed from the rotary scene since i sold my FC, but I do know, from a business aspect, it is hard to hand out refunds to people when there are other pieces to the equation. For example, other shops working on the same car, people tuning their own car or doing there own work, taking or not taking the advice of the mechanic, how the car is driven, who drives it, what parts are bought or not bought, etc. Honestly as a biz owner, I can't even imagine where to begin with guaranteeing engine work.

Again, I don't know much at all about what happened here, but from owning my own turbo rotary, and having hot rods my whole life, there is always a risk involved. ESPECIALLY with turbo rotaries.

These cars are expensive, and finding a good shop is hard. I know guys that have spent 80k on their FC (not even FD), and are still working on them.... But I definitely understand your frustration with dropping a ton of money on a rotary. Just comes with the territory I guess. I mean on top of the normal turbo rotary stuff, you really upped the ante with the complication of twin t04e setup. That's pretty ambitious and there are bound to be some pretty expensive speed bumps.

Anyway, enough from my soapbox, I really hope things work out, but i wont hold my breath.
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Elliot has always been super helpful to me, Sent him my turbo....checked it out for me.. told me it was in great condition...cleaned it and sent it back. Even went through my whole set-up with me and pointed out potential weak points.
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Originally Posted by BigTurbo74
I like how you use a photo that doesn't show the bracing that Elliot put on your car too( for the FMIC install). You are being very deceitful. I have never seen him charge more than $200 to put a radiator in, which has been several cars. Your buddy Miro is also to be a very well known liar around this state. Besides that the previous owner of your car put that hood on, and it was pretty well beat up from being slammed down, and your car has always looked " pink ".

There are also a lot of people coming forward in the good business section sticking up for him. Pretty hard for a shop to be very busy in this bad economy if they aren't doing good work.
I would have to disagree here. I have known this car before anyone on this thread. The previous owner did put the hood on. The hood did have a scratch on the front from someone backing into him. Other than that the hood looked great. As for the "Pink" color fade on amunoz car. It had some fade when Amunoz bought it. Last September before 7stock he had the car buffed out and it looked amazing. I personally saw the car the day before 7stock. This was about 2 months before the build started at Turblown.( https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/whoever-said-getting-rid-your-twins-good-hasnt-seen-setup-872321/ ) I dont know the exact dates but this thread was started 11-5-09 with the turbos in the car.
Quote from the local forum. ( http://azrx7.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11940 )
[quote name='il0v3mys5' date='Oct 2 2010, 01:31 PM' post='146421']
He left your fd outside wtf. I remember seeing your drive it last year and the paint was perfect. Get a lawyer asap. I'm glad you came forward to let the rotary public know about Turblown.
[/quote]

So we ask another question. Was this car left outside for the build?


Here is a couple 7stock pictures.(at the hotel) I know you cant really tell if the red paint is faded, but you can see the condition of the hood.



The scratch by the nose of the car was there before Amunoz bought the car.

This is the condition of the paint now



These are the turbos now. I dont now dates of when Amunoz picked up his car. So I dont know when the rust started.




Some pictures of the braces that where added. You all be the judge on this, but I think they look like ****. I wouldn't want my engine bay to look like that.


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the fd with the weird rear bumper and stuff looks ... way to sick!!!!
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Originally Posted by mannykiller
Elliot has always been super helpful to me, Sent him my turbo....checked it out for me.. told me it was in great condition...cleaned it and sent it back. Even went through my whole set-up with me and pointed out potential weak points.
yea sending him stuff from out of town is okay and messing with turbos/manifold stuff is okay. as a matter of fact when my manifold was done it looked super clean and beautiful but it is worthless **** even the other local shops say it was built completely wrong it has to be redone.
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Originally Posted by amunoz3
yea sending him stuff from out of town is okay and messing with turbos/manifold stuff is okay. as a matter of fact when my manifold was done it looked super clean and beautiful but it is worthless **** even the other local shops say it was built completely wrong it has to be redone.
what other shops said that? manifold looks fine from the pics


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