I bought the adaptronic couple of months back from day one car does not go beyond 5000rpm it's been a pain getting to tech support or after sales it seems I am stuck in a nightmare

 

That seems about par for the course. You aren't the only person to have an issue like this either. From what I've seen their response to this is blaming the issue on faulty harnessing and bad grounds, which to me is just a cop out to taking responsibility for the integrity of thier hardware/software and instead placing blame on the end user. I know of multiple instances where someone had a car running perfectly fine for years on another ecu, then they swapped to an adaptronic, all sorts of issues ensue including complete internal board failure, and then their tech proceeds to blame it on wiring? If its a plug and play ecu plugged into the factory harness and it fries itself when it worked for years with the other brand ecu, its not a harness problem.

If you want, post a seperate thread in the adaptronic forums on here detailing your setup, the issues you are having, and attach a copy of the tune file you are using with any log data you may have from it. There are a handful of us on here who can try and help you sort it and at least eliminate the possibility that its a setup issue and not a hardware issue.

Skeese

 

Yeah, I'd start a new thread, or find the thread where I was having a similar issue. It's probably the launch control rev limit and/or a mis-configuration of the neutral/clutch digital inputs, or its related to a rev limit for a temp sensor that isn't reading the correct temp. I found the out-of-the-box tune files included with the software to be very incomplete. The ECU might plug and play, but the tunes they provided certainly are not.

 

It's definitely gone down hill, I use to back adaptronic 100% until I got this modular (for my partners 180sx) as I've used multiple selects in the past and they worked fantastic. Going from a powerFC which didn't receive any RPM cuts, the Adaptronic straight away wouldn't rev above 6500RPM even though the powerFC would, no power cuts, no flags, no nothing. It always seemed to have erratic AFRs so we went through the fuel system (Because surely it won't be the new ECU right?) new fuel pump, injectors, rail, FPR the works. The new bosch 2200cc injectors just made things worse, biggest AFR swings on idle going from 12.8 to 16 and making it richer didn't help, also on cruising, it'd be a nice 14.7, then randomly lean out to 16s AFRs. I'd make changes to a part of the map which would result in the AFRs I was chasing but then the car would go back over the same part of the map and they'd be lean or rich. I gave the ECU a new power wire via a relay, new grounds, changed my wideband just incase....nothing worked. The support wasn't all that helpful if I'm being completely honest, like Mark is awesome but is obviously overloaded with support tickets, would take 2-7 days to reply to ask if the car is running braided lines over rubber hose as rubber hose has better dampening aspects.... Only thing left was the ECU, put powerFC back in, after 10-15 minutes playing with map, the car was running fantastic, nice 14.2 - 14.7 idle at 0.8% injector duty, AFRs were stable...consistent and no RPM cut!!! rev'd all the way to red line perfectly. In the middle of receiving a refund at the moment, then going a haltech elite.

Just want to thank you Skeese, as I wasn't doubting the ECU until reading your posts, seems we've been down similar paths haha, keep up the amazing work.

 

Does anyone has saved the Blog Posts with Pictures from the Adaptronic website? Looking particular for the OMP Posts on Closed and Open Loop Control.

 

I highly doubt it, but good luck. You're likely going to have to do the guess and check thing to figure out how it all works, which is sketchy on these sensitive motors. You may can reference user guides from other ECUs to see if anything there is laid out similar in their software and then using that info as a reference be able to make an educated guess instead of taking a total shot in the dark.

Skeese

 

tbh i wanted to use this as a reference for a Life Racing F88 Setup

 

Do you have a URL? The wayback machine might have it saved.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180307...g-and-testing/

 

https://adaptronic.zendesk.com/hc/en...n-Modular-ECUs

and

https://adaptronic.zendesk.com/hc/en...h-Modular-ECUs

only the pictures are missing.

 

I looked at the page source and it appears like they do not have images such as http://www.adaptronic.com.au/wp/wp-c...ts-300x164.png

 

https://adaptronicecu.com/blogs/modu...h-modular-ecus

 

BTW if you go to www.adaptronicecu.com you can search the website for alot of things for the modular ECU's and there are blogs for alot of common functions individuals are having issues with. I will agree some are harder to understand than others there is no doubt about that and yes its not a full manual.

 

I started a Facebook group in hopes of connecting to others still using WARI.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/5866...462/?ref=share

 

And another one bites the dust
And another one bites the dust

See below.

THREAD LINK

 

last email from them:

 

What sucks is I got it right before they launched the "New" Modular ecu's. I might have 5-7000 miles on it which is nothing imo. Most tech companies keep Items on hand for things like this for years. Not a few.

 

Here is part of the repair form i got....

All ECU returns must be accompanied by an Adaptronic Return Information Sheet. Any Adaptronic product received without this form fully completed and signed, will NOT be inspected and will be returned to the customer at their expense.
Please note: e420c ECUs are no longer able to be bench tested or repaired. Select ECU repairs will depend on the availability of parts.
 Prepaid Repair Charges:
o The fixed bench testing / diagnosing service charge for an Adaptronic Modular or Select ECU is $88 AUD inc GST (or $75 USD) even if no fault can be found or if deemed unrepairable. This service charge covers handling costs, diagnosing, and a full factory re-test of the returned unit. If the unit can be repaired, then
o The minimum repair charge for an Adaptronic Modular or Select ECU is $200 AUD inc GST (or $175 USD), which already includes the diagnostic test cost. The final price of the product repair service will depend on both the time taken to repair the unit and the cost of materials.
o Repairs have a 90-day warranty. If the unit sent in is still under its original warranty, then the new warranty is 90 days or to the end of the original one year warranty, depending upon which is longer.
o Return freight charges will be additional to the bench testing / repair charges.

 

So you pay to send it across the globe, pay to have them fix it after it died due to their shitty halfass design, then you pay again to have it mailed back across the globe to you, where then you can maybe get anothet 7000 miles out of it before it craps again and you either get to pay again IF they still service them. To me the entire operation is bullshit and anyone that reps or pushes it clearly has a self serving angle on it because it clearly isnt about the end user.

Skeese

 

You could just buy another one for that price. They are popping up for sale all over Facebook as no one wants to deal with them anymore. I actually considered buying one as a backup since I'm running the 440d in two vehicles now.

 

Given how sensitive rotary engines are to failure, Id just spend the money on another product that has a proven history as opposed to risking my engine to an ecu with known hardware/software issues. Saving a few hundred dollars per ecu doesnt really save you any money if you have to buy another every other year or one of them end up costing you and engine. Its mickey mouse as ****. Personally, I'd move on.

Skeese

 

Maybe since they are now part of Haltech things will change... or maybe they will offer a trade in program.

 

Maybe on units from after the merger, pretty sure the consensus is that anyone who bought the disfunctional 'adaptronic' units is gonna just be stuck holding it.

 

I think if i had to get a new one i would get a fueltech. Havent heard anything bad about them and have excellent customer service.

 

I like everything about the FuelTech gear on paper, what I'm not too keen on is them being based in Brazil from what little I know. I've had some VERY bad dealings with Brazilian firms in past lives/careers (VR/Tech specifically).

 

Pretty much sums up my experience.
I also have a others local to me that have moved on to a different ECU after Adaptronic issues.