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Adaptronic - Additional Modules and sensors?

Considering purchasing an Adaptronic, specifically the EMOD009 for the S4 RX7. Iíve decided Adaptronic will best suit my needs due to the simplicity of installation, and not having to mess around with a new wiring harness or custom wiring.

However, I noticed there are tons of options for additional sensors and modules, whatís recommended if Iíd like to wire up a wide-band, so the ECU can see AFRís, having a gauge so I can see myself would be preferable as well. I canít think of anything else Iíd need, assuming all the stock sensors work still.

Also are there any specific cables iíd need to monitor/tune the ECU via laptop besides the included cable?

About the car: The car is an S4 GXL with a S4 T2 swap (with S5 turbo), only modifications beyond stock T2 system are: Walbro 255 fuel pump, 720cc Secondaries, Racing beat down-pipe to Borla cat-back NA exhaust, and a small street port.

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You really don't need to have a wideband in any car anymore.( as long as the ECU can see one, preferably the wideband module from Adaptronic). If you are using an external one you need the innovate 3846 cable( direct plug and play for the innovate MTXL ). The fuel pressure sensor, and air temp sensor should be added. The ecu does include the labtop cable. I would also add an an adjustable fuel pressure regulator like the turbosmart FPR on our site.

I say you don't need a wideband gauge in the car anymore, as you can just setup the lean out protection which is 1000x faster than you watching a gauge and trying to pull your foot off before it leans out too far any grenades. Also when tuning you really want the AFR trace to show up in the datalogs, and on the actual tuning pages. Instead of trying to look at a gauge and remember which areas are too lean or too rich etc...
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I'd suggest you check out all the bad feedback on them in the adaptronic section before committing to one. It won't be a simple installation if the ECU fries itself and you get stuck holding an expensive ECU that would better function as a boat anchor.

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Originally Posted by Murilli View Post
Considering purchasing an Adaptronic, specifically the EMOD009 for the S4 RX7. Iíve decided Adaptronic will best suit my needs due to the simplicity of installation, and not having to mess around with a new wiring harness or custom wiring.

However, I noticed there are tons of options for additional sensors and modules, whatís recommended if Iíd like to wire up a wide-band, so the ECU can see AFRís, having a gauge so I can see myself would be preferable as well. I canít think of anything else Iíd need, assuming all the stock sensors work still.

Also are there any specific cables iíd need to monitor/tune the ECU via laptop besides the included cable?

About the car: The car is an S4 GXL with a S4 T2 swap (with S5 turbo), only modifications beyond stock T2 system are: Walbro 255 fuel pump, 720cc Secondaries, Racing beat down-pipe to Borla cat-back NA exhaust, and a small street port.

Thanks!
Please do SOME research. That company (Adaptronic) is nearly out of business and there are great options everywhere. This forum is full of answers you seek.

Being that your car is 30yrs old, it would make more sense to do a new engine harness to both eliminate clutter and aged copper that can fail you. Sensors are going to be your hidden expense here, so try to identify what you'd like for the car and factor that into your purchasing price. Tuning is an additional fee, which quite a few members on here (including myself) offer the services.

Claudio at TuningTechnology or Chris at LMS-EFI (for either, mention that Ryan sent you) are going to be your one-stop shop for whatever you need. Haltech Elite, FuelTech, Link G4, ECUMaster, Emtron, etc.

If there's one person on here that you SHOULD trust, it's the guy above my post. Skeese has called out more FakeNews on this forum than anyone else I can think of and continues to help correct previous jobs done by other tuners and develop the engine refinement as he sees fit.
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Out of business... We are still selling 400 a year!

Please feel free to call the office line and I can guide you along...


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Out of business... We are still selling 400 a year!

Please feel free to call the office line and I can guide you along...


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That doesnt mean its a good choice by any means...

To the OP I highly recommend you check out the end of this thread.

Thread Link - Another Fried Adaptronic Modular

This is one of many accounts of similar failures. I'd invest in a ECU that is actually proven such as a haltech or fueltech.

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Out of business... We are still selling 400 a year!
That is NOT something to be proud of.
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Out of business... We are still selling 400 a year!

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C'mon man, this is pretty disingenuous to say the least.
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Originally Posted by Skeese View Post
That doesnt mean its a good choice by any means...

To the OP I highly recommend you check out the end of this thread.

Thread Link - Another Fried Adaptronic Modular

This is one of many accounts of similar failures. I'd invest in a ECU that is actually proven such as a haltech or fueltech.

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Isn't that thread about an Adaptronic Select?

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no not an m2000 it is an older select series. i had the fuel pressure in the 1st post. added again below.

FFE fuel rail ID850 pri and id 2k sec (fuel pressure set at 44psi verified today)
WALBRO FUEL PUMP 465 LPH (rewired to be on it's own circuit with 30 amp fuse)
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Thanks for the information, I was able to find the answers to what I was looking for! Initially I was confusing what 'Module' referred to, since I normally deal with IT Networking components, all good!
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Originally Posted by Myocardial Infarction View Post
Isn't that thread about an Adaptronic Select?
Guess it wasnt a modular, but that link was one of many a search will find. Regardless they're known to have a fuckload of issues as well and often randomly die, not to mention at any point in time the software is in some various state of only half functional and not to be trusted.

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Originally Posted by Myocardial Infarction View Post
Isn't that thread about an Adaptronic Select?
Yeah, and all the problems were listed in the Modular Manual.
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I think the select is more reliable than the modular. But very little if any support from adaptronic for the select now. Me personally I like the fueltech.
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I think the select is more reliable than the modular. But very little if any support from adaptronic for the select now. Me personally I like the fueltech.
I agree, the select seems more reliable. That being said, I personally know of 5 different fd rx7 select ecus that self fried and had to be sent to Australia for repair at the cost of the owner. Its funny how they blame it on the owner or wiring, but it consistantly happens? Couldn't be poor hardware design, definitely not...
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I agree, the select seems more reliable. That being said, I personally know of 5 different fd rx7 select ecus that self fried and had to be sent to Australia for repair at the cost of the owner. Its funny how they blame it on the owner or wiring, but it consistantly happens? Couldn't be poor hardware design, definitely not...
Mines there now getting both defective MAP sensors replaced. I paid $65 for one way shipping, cant wait to see the rest of the bill.
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Mines there now getting both defective MAP sensors replaced. I paid $65 for one way shipping, cant wait to see the rest of the bill.
That's a new one, haven't heard of map sensor failure.

With twin map sensors, has to be a modular. Are you not covered under warranty?
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That's a new one, haven't heard of map sensor failure.

With twin map sensors, has to be a modular. Are you not covered under warranty?
Correct, both IMAP and EMAP are bad on my modular. The IMAP was reading off from my Defi gauge, so my tuner had me swap the vacuum line to the EMAP. That read correctly at first, but then one night I start the car and it's struggling to run. Next morning it started and ran just fine. I drove it to the gas station, got gas, pull out to the light and the car starts barely running again. No power, can't drive it, AFRs are showing super lean. I look at the vacuum readings of the adaptronic and they are WAY off from my Defi. I ended up installing an external 3 bar, which fixed the problem and has been solid.

I purchased the car with the ECU installed and "tuned", so I dont have the purchase docs -- no warranty. On the fence about going Haltech since I've already threw too much money at this car. I might throw the adaptronic for sale and see if anyone bites.
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Man, Adaptronic really seems like it sucks.
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Man, Adaptronic really seems like it sucks.
I heard that since Haltech bought them they are using better hardware. Time will tell.
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There were some bad sold joints on the the map sensors on the very early models that was fixed right away. If you PM me the serial number, I can look it up and get you the necessary purchase documents as I track those on our back end. That is a valid warranty claim.

Also I have been able to get all warranty claims now shipped to Haltech KY( USA), no more shipping directly to AUS.
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There were some bad sold joints on the the map sensors on the very early models that was fixed right away. If you PM me the serial number, I can look it up and get you the necessary purchase documents as I track those on our back end. That is a valid warranty claim.

Also I have been able to get all warranty claims now shipped to Haltech KY( USA), no more shipping directly to AUS.
How come they didnt tell me when I emailed them two weeks ago?? I had to ship it to AUS they told me.
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Man, Adaptronic really seems like it sucks.
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I heard that since Haltech bought them they are using better hardware. Time will tell.
I just dont get why anyone would opt to buy it over the other options out there that are proven products. With haltech now owning the product line, I can't see them making it superior to their own 'equivalent' product line associated with their brand name. Seems that its doomed to forever be their tier 2 product, even if they fix all the issues.

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How come they didnt tell me when I emailed them two weeks ago?? I had to ship it to AUS they told me.
Good question.
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I just dont get why anyone would opt to buy it over the other options out there that are proven products. With haltech now owning the product line, I can't see them making it superior to their own 'equivalent' product line associated with their brand name. Seems that its doomed to forever be their tier 2 product, even if they fix all the issues.



Good question.
I only waited 3 months for the wide band module to ship. Turns out the reason was because the Haltech manager didnt think anyone would buy them.
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Correct, both IMAP and EMAP are bad on my modular. The IMAP was reading off from my Defi gauge, so my tuner had me swap the vacuum line to the EMAP. That read correctly at first, but then one night I start the car and it's struggling to run. Next morning it started and ran just fine. I drove it to the gas station, got gas, pull out to the light and the car starts barely running again. No power, can't drive it, AFRs are showing super lean. I look at the vacuum readings of the adaptronic and they are WAY off from my Defi. I ended up installing an external 3 bar, which fixed the problem and has been solid.

I purchased the car with the ECU installed and "tuned", so I dont have the purchase docs -- no warranty. On the fence about going Haltech since I've already threw too much money at this car. I might throw the adaptronic for sale and see if anyone bites.
I had the same problem, took me quite a few emails to convince them that there was a fault, but they eventually shipped me a new ECU to test. No issues with the new unit.

I would have kicked up a very big ******* stink if they had asked me to pay anything other than shipping the old unit back to them.

Other than that, I'm quite happy with it. If you look through the firmware updates for any ECU there are typically bugs being fixed all the time, so this isn't isolated to Adaptronic. I would agree that if you want a mature product with all the kinks ironed out you should probably be looking at something else.
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I had the same problem, took me quite a few emails to convince them that there was a fault, but they eventually shipped me a new ECU to test. No issues with the new unit.

I would have kicked up a very big ******* stink if they had asked me to pay anything other than shipping the old unit back to them.

Other than that, I'm quite happy with it. If you look through the firmware updates for any ECU there are typically bugs being fixed all the time, so this isn't isolated to Adaptronic. I would agree that if you want a mature product with all the kinks ironed out you should probably be looking at something else.
At least you're located in kangaroo land, so shipping was reasonable. I made a stink about the BS after my tuner even said it was a known issue and Tsikoy de Leon from Adaptronic started asking me for a bunch of paperwork and telling me it's not covered under warranty. Then he told me, just ship it over here, they might cover it if it truly has a "manufacturing defect". That was the straw that broke the camels back. I already have a buyer for the ECU and the wideband as soon it arrives from repairs. Buying a Haltech from Chris Ludwig.
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