Adaptronic Adaptronic - Additional Modules and sensors?
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At least you're located in kangaroo land, so shipping was reasonable. I made a stink about the BS after my tuner even said it was a known issue and Tsikoy de Leon from Adaptronic started asking me for a bunch of paperwork and telling me it's not covered under warranty. Then he told me, just ship it over here, they might cover it if it truly has a "manufacturing defect". That was the straw that broke the camels back. I already have a buyer for the ECU and the wideband as soon it arrives from repairs. Buying a Haltech from Chris Ludwig.
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Yeah that sounds pretty average. Have you already bought a Haltech? I'd consider a Link if not, that was my second choice. The FD plugin box is a very well featured unit, the fuel model isn't as comprehensive as the Adaptronic but overall it appears to be a very polished product.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.
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Solid proven approach. You won't be disappointed.
Yeah that sounds pretty average. Have you already bought a Haltech? I'd consider a Link if not, that was my second choice. The FD plugin box is a very well featured unit, the fuel model isn't as comprehensive as the Adaptronic but overall it appears to be a very polished product.
I have not yet, but Haltech seems like a pretty solid ECU. No one really has complaints about it. Also, my harness is from LMS and Chris Ludwig is going to inspect it and reconfigure it to work on the Haltech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.
To me that is the best move. Having Ludwing setup the harness is always a win because it will be 100% right, 100% of the time and you won't have to mess with it. You'll have no problem tuning the car on the elite if you even functionally understand the PFC. Lastly, I agree about the fueltech. Its one of the few I haven't personally tuned but the feedback I've seen from those who have has been outstanding and given most people who run it push BIG power, it would have been really really really clear if there were any issues or shortcomings with it.
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- Fixed ESP crashing on startup when AVG AntiVirus installed.
- Fixed an issue where high fuel flow rates would cause an overflow resulting in too small injector on times.
- Fixed traction control not working properly on Rear Wheel Drive cars.
- Fixed Single Wire CDI not firing pulses sometimes when at low RPM.
- Fixed Mazda MZI trigger sometimes losing sync.
- Fixed ECU repeated reboot under certain edge case conditions after a map import.
I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production.
I have not yet, but Haltech seems like a pretty solid ECU. No one really has complaints about it. Also, my harness is from LMS and Chris Ludwig is going to inspect it and reconfigure it to work on the Haltech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.
I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.
#30
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From the latest firmware release notes:
I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production.
Best of luck with it, I'm sure it will work well
- Fixed ESP crashing on startup when AVG AntiVirus installed.
- Fixed an issue where high fuel flow rates would cause an overflow resulting in too small injector on times.
- Fixed traction control not working properly on Rear Wheel Drive cars.
- Fixed Single Wire CDI not firing pulses sometimes when at low RPM.
- Fixed Mazda MZI trigger sometimes losing sync.
- Fixed ECU repeated reboot under certain edge case conditions after a map import.
I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production.
Best of luck with it, I'm sure it will work well
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https://www.haltech.com/download-files/firmware/
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That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese
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That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese
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- Fixes an Flat-Shift issue introduced in 2.32.0 firmware
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That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.
Skeese
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I think you're letting some personal bias cloud the issue of general software buggyness. Software has bugs. Period. Haltech makes great products and is obviously far more reliable, tested, and supported than Adaptronic's pre-purchase releases but to say that they release updates/patches solely for upgrades and not bug fixes is naive IMHO. They're also (from what I've seen thus far) very transparent with their failures. Adaptronic is....not, so I get where you're coming from.
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Anyways, your call. From what I’m told Adaptronic is getting haltech parts to fix their know issues. After dealing with their repair department about the defective MAP sensors, I’d rather just not. It was pretty unprofessional and it turns out I could have shipped it inside the US and saved myself $65.
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#42
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I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese
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I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese
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Good advice, though depressing that consumers need to be overly cautious with something like this that is integral to the units themselves.
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I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.
Skeese
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#50
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
I have yet to see them on ANY motorsports car in the history of EVER. They do get clogged and do fail.
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One proper solution is to run a damped (T1R or FFE) eMAP to one ECU MAP signal, and Barometric off of the other. Run an external MAP sensor for your primary MAP.
T1R EMAP Sensor Damper Kit