Yeah that sounds pretty average. Have you already bought a Haltech? I'd consider a Link if not, that was my second choice. The FD plugin box is a very well featured unit, the fuel model isn't as comprehensive as the Adaptronic but overall it appears to be a very polished product.

 

I have not yet, but Haltech seems like a pretty solid ECU. No one really has complaints about it. Also, my harness is from LMS and Chris Ludwig is going to inspect it and reconfigure it to work on the Haltech.

I've tuned my other FD on the PowerFC and it runs awesome. Both Chris and Skeese think the Haltech should be just as easy and both are willing to help out when needed. It just makes sense. Honestly, my other choice would be FuelTech.

 

I disagree with you on this point. If you look at the haltech ESP updates, they aren't fixing bugs but rather adding additional support and features. I personally wrote them an in-depth email lobbying for them to add the ability to have the overboost cut be selectable between ignition and fuel, instead of being tied to the fuel cut without any option. They let me know my request was valid and the detail I provided was rationale for it top be promoted to their engineering group for review. I think 6-8 months later, the change was implemented in the software. Point being, they fully think about an update, work it out, test it, and only once its solid and proven, release it. Sure it takes longer than the group that would take random input from facebook and slap 'er on in there overnight, but you also don't end up with 9051348641354531321 software iterations fixing bugs in a bunch of **** that is out and running on customers' cars.

Well...to be fair, they probably wouldn't unless a dealer forced it down their throat as an absolute necessity because nothing else is good enough or to be trusted. I'm assuming it uses the same Bosch 4.9 sensor as the AEM they said was sketchy and not to be trusted due to it using the 4.9 sensor?

Solid proven approach. You won't be disappointed.

I've played around with the link helping a friend out before and I think its a pretty decent ECU all things considered, but to me it seems like one of those things that is better suited to someone who wants to spend time fiddling with it. The haltech tuning recipe for a turbo rotary is very well defined online and I could point to probably 10 people I personally know (not shops or "pros" mind you) that have self tuned their own rotary on the haltech and would be glad to help or talk about it anytime.

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To me that is the best move. Having Ludwing setup the harness is always a win because it will be 100% right, 100% of the time and you won't have to mess with it. You'll have no problem tuning the car on the elite if you even functionally understand the PFC. Lastly, I agree about the fueltech. Its one of the few I haven't personally tuned but the feedback I've seen from those who have has been outstanding and given most people who run it push BIG power, it would have been really really really clear if there were any issues or shortcomings with it.

Cheers

Skeese

 

From the latest firmware release notes:

• Fixed ESP crashing on startup when AVG AntiVirus installed.
• Fixed an issue where high fuel flow rates would cause an overflow resulting in too small injector on times.
• Fixed traction control not working properly on Rear Wheel Drive cars.
• Fixed Single Wire CDI not firing pulses sometimes when at low RPM.
• Fixed Mazda MZI trigger sometimes losing sync.
• Fixed ECU repeated reboot under certain edge case conditions after a map import.

I have nothing against them, just pointing out that no platform is immune to these issues. Some will be worse than others and that is generally due to how long that product has been in production.

Best of luck with it, I'm sure it will work well

 

Please enlighten me, which update was that? I pulled the latest change log this morning, and none of that was there.

 

Sorry, I pulled that from what I thought was the latest update on their website, must have been a previous version. There are some more examples of various bug fixes below.

https://www.haltech.com/download-files/firmware/

 

That's a link to every update, ever. Does adaptronic even catalog their software iterations? I assume they dont, as they dont even have a manual as to how it operates/operated on any version at any point. Every iteration of the haltech software comes with the option to download its respective FULL manual (500+ pages) that details every function. Suggesting the software between these two is anywhere near the same development level is a complete farce.

Skeese

 

https://s3.amazonaws.com//adaptronic.../EN_ModFW.html

Changes since 2.32.1 Firmware
- Fixes an Flat-Shift issue introduced in 2.32.0 firmware

 

I think you're letting some personal bias cloud the issue of general software buggyness. Software has bugs. Period. Haltech makes great products and is obviously far more reliable, tested, and supported than Adaptronic's pre-purchase releases but to say that they release updates/patches solely for upgrades and not bug fixes is naive IMHO. They're also (from what I've seen thus far) very transparent with their failures. Adaptronic is....not, so I get where you're coming from.

 

Say that again.

 

Man I had issues with my Select ECU and I upgraded to the modular to fix the issues I was having. My car is running great now but I'm nervous AF after reading all this.

 

Switch to an external MAP sensor like the GM 3bar. Fluid tends to leak down that long vacuum line that is below, into the ECU and sit there. Stock MAP sensor sits above the intake manifold, so it would drain down.

Anyways, your call. From what I’m told Adaptronic is getting haltech parts to fix their know issues. After dealing with their repair department about the defective MAP sensors, I’d rather just not. It was pretty unprofessional and it turns out I could have shipped it inside the US and saved myself $65.

 

When did you get it? Mines been running fine since the initial faulty unit was replaced.

 

Am I missing something?

edit: Oh, haha, for some reason I took that as bait for me to get myself into trouble before I noticed who had written it/your previous posts. Keyboard cowboys got me scurred.

 

Agreeing with you that Adaptronic has not been transparent with the issues.

 

I have an inline moisture filter between my map source port on the manifold and onboard map sensor in my ecu. I dont know if this would or wouldnt have prevented a failure in your case, but its definitely a cheap simple alternative to changing to an external map sensor.

Skeese

 

That's probably a good idea. I doubt it would have prevented my MAP sensor issue, since the EMAP was never used before and it died after only a couple days of switching to it.

 

Good advice, though depressing that consumers need to be overly cautious with something like this that is integral to the units themselves.

 

I'm looking around for one and keep getting searches for air guns and the sort. What are you using?

 

HKS EVC Filter

 

Yep, that's it.

 

Thanks guys. Will be using this with what ever ECU i get. I have a feeling this is what happened to mine. As the fall thru early summer are extremely wet up here

 

Is this essentially the same thing that came stock on FDs? I'm not sure if other cars originally had them, but I recall seeing what looked like a green/white plastic filter near the FD UIM.

 

That was a check valve you're talking about, serves a different purpose.

 

I gotchu Skeese, but these are a waste of your time.

I have yet to see them on ANY motorsports car in the history of EVER. They do get clogged and do fail.


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One proper solution is to run a damped (T1R or FFE) eMAP to one ECU MAP signal, and Barometric off of the other. Run an external MAP sensor for your primary MAP.


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