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What is my 1993 OEM CYM RX-7/FD worth? (Fully built by IR Performance)
01-31-11, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Barban
I'd personally rather start with a stock car. At least you know what you're getting for better or worse.
I know several owners of stock cars who quickly became disenchanted because of endless repair bills and never looked at an FD again. Stock is no savior - that is absolute fiction. Mazduh did ALOT of things wrong with this car.
01-31-11, 06:00 AM
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35k and u turned it down? Tell that person I have a 20k mile 94 cw with a 20b they can have. That buyer was obviouly confused lol
I would say farkels car was an awesome example of a nicely modded car and it brought in low 20s I think.
I would say farkels car was an awesome example of a nicely modded car and it brought in low 20s I think.
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......I was offered 35k for my car recently and seriously considered it....but realized quickly that I would HAVE to replace it with another.....and after a quick search, found that it would cost similar money to do it again.....and wouldnt have such a perfect example to start with either...so I declined the offer and drove home happy again!...I LOVE MY RX7!!
-Jack
......I was offered 35k for my car recently and seriously considered it....but realized quickly that I would HAVE to replace it with another.....and after a quick search, found that it would cost similar money to do it again.....and wouldnt have such a perfect example to start with either...so I declined the offer and drove home happy again!...I LOVE MY RX7!!
-Jack
01-31-11, 08:36 AM
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People think if ONE person offers you 35k for your car, thinks the car is worth 35k. lol
So wow, i guess if some 18 year old kid wants to give me 30k for my pos 93 with some dents and scratches, then i guess the 93's like mine are worth 30k too right?? lol..... no.
The logic people have, well just one but i wont mention names, is just plain retarded.
josh&fd, thats exactly what i was saying. Adding mods to a car doesnt increase its value, WITHOUT losing money in the process.
So if you want to increase its value for sale, you'll be wasting money in the long run. Why even do that? Its stupid.
Fact is. LOW MILES, RARITY and STOCK cars sell at the most high prices. Fact.
01-31-11, 09:12 AM
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Op. I live in long island and work in the city. It's only a 35min train ride for me. You can try renting a garage on longisland not to far from a train station and just walk from train. Or better yet move to LI .
01-31-11, 10:36 AM
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How old are you? 12?
Your usual grade school level fragmented posts.
Yes.
No one ever said it did. Do you understand the difference between recouping investment and adding value? Apparently not. You obviously don't understand basic economic terms, and/or your reading comprehension sucks (or both)
Sure, and that was never in question - there are exceedingly few such cars left, and that comment does not apply to this thread. Clean, professionally modded cars are worth money. Fact. Move along.
?? lol..... lol.....lol
The anti-logic I have is just plain retarded.
Adding mods to a car doesnt increase its value, WITHOUT losing money in the process.
Fact is. LOW MILES, RARITY and STOCK cars sell at the most high prices.
01-31-11, 11:03 AM
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Apparently you are since i already asked you that question in PM. Glad to know im not the only one you PM when you get butt hurt. Thats your way of crying? You PM someone calling them *******?? LOL
If you want to think that fine, but your mentality is actually leveled with a grade school child.
Its quite clear you dont even know the meaning of that. You're arguing feeble standpoints. Whether its flawed or not, just for the sake of arguing with someone. You do this in almost every thread you post in now.
AGAIN, people know this by the many forum names you racked under your belt. Your posts are flawed, its opinionated, its closed minded, its weak and its retarded because you post without actual thought.
There was never any question at all. People brought up the modifications to the OP car. Go ask him the total amount of money spent on his car. He would be lucky if he got 50% of that money back on the total sale. Adding mods doesnt increase value without losing money in the process.
You said it never did, so what are you arguing then?
Your usual grade school level fragmented posts.
No one ever said it did. Do you understand the difference between recouping investment and adding value? Apparently not. You obviously don't understand basic economic terms, and/or your reading comprehension sucks (or both)
AGAIN, people know this by the many forum names you racked under your belt. Your posts are flawed, its opinionated, its closed minded, its weak and its retarded because you post without actual thought.
Sure, and that was never in question - there are exceedingly few such cars left, and that comment does not apply to this thread. Clean, professionally modded cars are worth money. Fact. Move along.
There was never any question at all. People brought up the modifications to the OP car. Go ask him the total amount of money spent on his car. He would be lucky if he got 50% of that money back on the total sale. Adding mods doesnt increase value without losing money in the process.
You said it never did, so what are you arguing then?
01-31-11, 11:59 AM
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Nowdays statements like this make me chuckle. It seems that people forget that the FD is an OLD car, so they cringe when they see one with 100K miles. This car is 18 years old (might be 19 if it was sold in 92) and with 106,XXX miles on the clock, it equates to <6,000 miles a year. So that’s not a high milage car given its age. In fact it seems like it was used strictly as a recreational vehicle.
IMO it’s more important to check what has been to done to the car in order to maintain it’s rigidity than the milage on the chassis itself. I find that on well maintained FD’s with 100K+ miles steps have been taken to insure ride integrity (bushing kit, struts, ect). While on the lower milage ones nothing has been done, as if they expect parts that are almost 20 years old to be like new. Yeah no… Time eventually kills all.
In any case this car is worth what a buyer will pay for and it all depends on who the buyer is. Is he/she FD educated or not… So in a sense both you and YZF are right. As the non educated one will most likely see this as a modified who know knows what they did to this poor car. While the educated one can certainly appreciate who and what was done to it.
IMO it’s more important to check what has been to done to the car in order to maintain it’s rigidity than the milage on the chassis itself. I find that on well maintained FD’s with 100K+ miles steps have been taken to insure ride integrity (bushing kit, struts, ect). While on the lower milage ones nothing has been done, as if they expect parts that are almost 20 years old to be like new. Yeah no… Time eventually kills all.
In any case this car is worth what a buyer will pay for and it all depends on who the buyer is. Is he/she FD educated or not… So in a sense both you and YZF are right. As the non educated one will most likely see this as a modified who know knows what they did to this poor car. While the educated one can certainly appreciate who and what was done to it.
01-31-11, 12:07 PM
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Nowdays statements like this make me chuckle. It seems that people forget that the FD is an OLD car, so they cringe when they see one with 100K miles. This car is 18 years old (might be 19 if it was sold in 92) and with 106,XXX miles on the clock, it equates to <6,000 miles a year. So that’s not a high milage car given its age. In fact it seems like it was used strictly as a recreational vehicle.
As the non educated one will most likely see this as a modified who know knows what they did to this poor car. While the educated one can certainly appreciate who and what was done to it.
01-31-11, 12:48 PM
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As many before have said, stock, original, low mileage FDs go for the most money. Indisputable fact. That is dollars of what has been spent on the car as a whole verses the sale price. Spend 35k on an entire build including the car and it will obviously sell for more than a really nice original car, but the original car selling for 14k is actually selling for much more. Yes the modded car has added value but that value gets to be decided upon by each potential buyer and ultimately the best offer the seller is willing to take. And time after time it shows to be money vacuum if you sell your car. Otherwise you get to enjoy all the added value yourself where it really was an investment for yourself if you keep the car and enjoy it
I love good builds, I am more of a purist but I get the itch (while lacking the money) to do stuff to my car when I see a good build on here.
To the OP, as others have said, you should try and keep the car if possible. There are many things more important than our cars though but if it makes sense try to keep it unless you're leaving the RX-7 community. Don't sell knowing you're going to do another build in a few years. But if you have the money, builds are fun and by all means go do another ASAP and stimulate the FD economy.
Good luck whatever you choose to do.
I love good builds, I am more of a purist but I get the itch (while lacking the money) to do stuff to my car when I see a good build on here.
To the OP, as others have said, you should try and keep the car if possible. There are many things more important than our cars though but if it makes sense try to keep it unless you're leaving the RX-7 community. Don't sell knowing you're going to do another build in a few years. But if you have the money, builds are fun and by all means go do another ASAP and stimulate the FD economy.
Good luck whatever you choose to do.
01-31-11, 12:57 PM
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Again.....don't confuse the terms "added value" with "recouped investment". No one stated - or even implied - that anyone is going to recoup their investment with a bunch of mods. It's obvious that the best policy from an investment strategy (as bizarre as that term is when applied to any FD) is to do as little to the car as possible, keep a coat of wax on it, fix what needs to be fixed, and never go above 10 psi. The question of the best investment strategy was never a point of discussion! The issue was added value with clean, professionally modded cars. Think someone like Rich couldn't sell his car for about $23-25k?
01-31-11, 01:12 PM
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I know you knew. When I looked at the choices I had to pick that one by default because of how true it was. I'm just busting *****. I'd love to buy your FD. Its a shame you probably won't get what I think its worth. Even if I were to buy your FD I wouldn't pay what its worth. Its sad. I'm pretty sure you already have your answer by now. I know I won't be selling my FD unless I was pretty desparate. The money is definitely an issue. What is even bigger than that is the time it took for me to get it where it was. I've spend more than a year straight without my car at one time and many months in a row after that. It was torture.
Wooooah hold on there turbo. I've noticed the opposite. The worst drivers I have EVER encountered are from NJ. NYC drivers are predictable in how discourteous they are. You just never know what NJ drivers will do. I feel safer driving around yellow cabs than I do with NJ drivers.
Wooooah hold on there turbo. I've noticed the opposite. The worst drivers I have EVER encountered are from NJ. NYC drivers are predictable in how discourteous they are. You just never know what NJ drivers will do. I feel safer driving around yellow cabs than I do with NJ drivers.
01-31-11, 01:12 PM
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If I had the money I would offer around 20k for it. Car looks gorgeous and because I know how much time I spent putting mine together, I know that this car would be worth it because I know I never want to go through putting another one back together.
01-31-11, 01:43 PM
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If I could find a '94-'95 version of this car in brilliant black I'd be all over it (not sure about the 19" wheels, though)
Yellow is a great novelty/attention grabbing color, just not sure I'd want to own one. You really need a true supercar to be able to pull it off.
Yellow is a great novelty/attention grabbing color, just not sure I'd want to own one. You really need a true supercar to be able to pull it off.
01-31-11, 01:59 PM
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Nowdays statements like this make me chuckle. It seems that people forget that the FD is an OLD car, so they cringe when they see one with 100K miles. This car is 18 years old (might be 19 if it was sold in 92) and with 106,XXX miles on the clock, it equates to <6,000 miles a year. So that’s not a high milage car given its age. In fact it seems like it was used strictly as a recreational vehicle.
IMO it’s more important to check what has been to done to the car in order to maintain it’s rigidity than the milage on the chassis itself. I find that on well maintained FD’s with 100K+ miles steps have been taken to insure ride integrity (bushing kit, struts, ect). While on the lower milage ones nothing has been done, as if they expect parts that are almost 20 years old to be like new. Yeah no… Time eventually kills all.
In any case this car is worth what a buyer will pay for and it all depends on who the buyer is. Is he/she FD educated or not… So in a sense both you and YZF are right. As the non educated one will most likely see this as a modified who know knows what they did to this poor car. While the educated one can certainly appreciate who and what was done to it.
IMO it’s more important to check what has been to done to the car in order to maintain it’s rigidity than the milage on the chassis itself. I find that on well maintained FD’s with 100K+ miles steps have been taken to insure ride integrity (bushing kit, struts, ect). While on the lower milage ones nothing has been done, as if they expect parts that are almost 20 years old to be like new. Yeah no… Time eventually kills all.
In any case this car is worth what a buyer will pay for and it all depends on who the buyer is. Is he/she FD educated or not… So in a sense both you and YZF are right. As the non educated one will most likely see this as a modified who know knows what they did to this poor car. While the educated one can certainly appreciate who and what was done to it.
And yes you're right. A car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. That doesn't automatically increase the value.
We would have to sell our cars for outrageous prices in order to make an impact on its value. That or start killing alot of fd's so they become even more rare.
That's what I was getting at from the beginning but some wannabe know it all will just vaguely say adding mods increase value.
01-31-11, 02:03 PM
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Wooooah hold on there turbo. I've noticed the opposite. The worst drivers I have EVER encountered are from NJ. NYC drivers are predictable in how discourteous they are. You just never know what NJ drivers will do. I feel safer driving around yellow cabs than I do with NJ drivers.
01-31-11, 02:50 PM
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Sorry didn't read the whole thread. That would take me over a week to do while I'm on this ship.
If I was on the market for another FD I would jump on this car. I was originally looking for a CYM but could find one. I would pay $18k for this car. IMO CYM's should hold their value more than any other color since they only came in one model (R1s only) and one year, so they are very limited.
As for the mileage, it is on the high side but so are lots of FDs in the market.
Now, if I was selling this car, I would return it to stock as much as possible to compansate for soem of the funds invested on this car.
If I was on the market for another FD I would jump on this car. I was originally looking for a CYM but could find one. I would pay $18k for this car. IMO CYM's should hold their value more than any other color since they only came in one model (R1s only) and one year, so they are very limited.
As for the mileage, it is on the high side but so are lots of FDs in the market.
Now, if I was selling this car, I would return it to stock as much as possible to compansate for soem of the funds invested on this car.
01-31-11, 03:48 PM
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Mine is pretty clean and has a good rep on this board. I bought it for $17k two years ago @ 127k miles with a freshly rebuilt motor (500miles on it), and it was pretty much sold to me before he even listed it on here.
Its also street ported with a lot of aftermarket goodies that are pretty rare. Still on stock twins though.
I was not the avg buyer though, somehow I was a little above the economic slump and spent my time unemployed right before the economy crashed so I had the $$$.
I'd say if someone on here is interested, you might be able to get what you want in the time you need. IMO you might have to move and just let the car sit until you get what you want, BUT KEEP IT INSURED.
Its also street ported with a lot of aftermarket goodies that are pretty rare. Still on stock twins though.
I was not the avg buyer though, somehow I was a little above the economic slump and spent my time unemployed right before the economy crashed so I had the $$$.
I'd say if someone on here is interested, you might be able to get what you want in the time you need. IMO you might have to move and just let the car sit until you get what you want, BUT KEEP IT INSURED.
01-31-11, 05:05 PM
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Zero, now that you're not selling (right?) I'm curious as to what the magic number was for you to sell. I know you had something in mind.
01-31-11, 05:23 PM
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I think its what would you rather be dealing with. I'd much rather be dealing with predictable chaos all the time rather than sporadic craziness. I've seen and experienced some pretty bad things in NJ and I haven't been around here that long. I'm not even talking about the ricers. It isn't even a question about being reckless its about being crazy and it happens out of no where. Some people don't seem to care if you are about to hit their car either. Its like they purposely ignore you. Then sometimes you see a teenage girl in Daddy's Benz talking on the phone while going 90+ mph as well. UGH.
And the roads, i even want to talk about that. But that doesnt really have to do with the drivers. Or does it? lol
01-31-11, 05:49 PM
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well...truth is...my car is an extreme example of a well maintained low mile(60k), near perfect, original paint car...the person interested was looking for one to do the EXACT same swap I did...(LS2) and when he saw my car he decided to spit out an offer....I have about 33k invested in the current setup with parts/car alone...so with labor it adds up....but I have tried to find a car in as fine shape as this one and cannot. PERIOD. not even for 30k...Ive seen countless examples of "perfect" shape FD's only to be disappointed at the truth...that they are really just in "good" shape for being so old....when I say my car is near perfect..I mean near PERFECT. no rotting rubber..no peeling paint...no torn interior.....no dings/dents/scratches/cracks...tight suspension/bushings...no creeks/rattles/leaks...all original paint/glass/weather stripping....this thing is MINT. and that is part of the equation....now add to that the nature of the upgrades made to the car....this LS2 swap is not an LS1...first of all...and nothing done to accept the swap is not reversible. The components are all of the highest quality available...and the overall function of the car has not diminished at all.
....This is in my mind the reason the car has such a high value to potential buyers...they see the car for what it is.....I personally would have no issue selling the car for 35K if I knew I could find another one and make some money in the deal...but I challenge anyone to find this clean of a car for the numbers being tossed around in here...16-20k...that would be a FIND for anyone looking.
01-31-11, 05:52 PM
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The weather stripping is "mint"? Not sure how this is possible for a car this old. I only say this because I'm the process of replacing my weather stripping.
01-31-11, 06:11 PM
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its MINT...soft....perfect....no creases...no rips....bulges...i mean MINT!!...haha...I wish I could just show you...its a thing of beauty....I swear the car seems to be defying physics... a few people on here have seen the car in person....maybe they could offer an honest opinion?...
01-31-11, 06:14 PM
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Yes we would all have to sell our FD's for outrageous prices for an extent period of time before the value of our cars go up.
I was mainly referring to that comment about someone offering 35k. ONE PERSON offering 35k doesnt make our value go up. Not even a little bit. That would just be an idiot buyer and a smart seller.
01-31-11, 06:18 PM
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