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What is my 1993 OEM CYM RX-7/FD worth? (Fully built by IR Performance)

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8
I voted "no" for an obvious reason. However, we are all different and you may have other important obligations such as family.

I personally would not sell my FD to move to the cage known as NYC. In fact, you couldn't give me another FD to live there. But this is you, and your decision.

If you do not "need" the money and keeping it in storage up there is not too much of a burden, then why consider selling at all? Obviously the car isn't used for a DD now, so what would stop you from taking it out of storage every other weekend & enjoying it outside the city?

The things in life that we are passionate about create a lasting spark that enriches life itself.

Even renting a garage in NYC is a waste as anytime you do wanna take it out, there are NO places to take a scenic drive/casual drive. Everywhere you go in NYC is traffic and has the worst drivers available.

Now if your house is somewhere in LI or even new york state, and you work in NYC, then yes keeping the FD and garaging it is obviously the way to go but i think the OP is doing the right thing in selling it. I just wouldnt do it for 15-17k etc. Hell i dont even think i would do it for 18-19, the way his car looks. And his car is A LOT better looking than mine with better/more mods.

Seriously, for the average resident in NYC, its not worth it owning these cars, or any nice car for that matter. You just wont have the time nor space to enjoy it. Thats why 90% of the people who move to NYC sell their car(s).
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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I would do what ever you had to to keep it. I just recently got another fd with plans to flip it, but then I realized there were only 13,000 or so sent to the U.S.. I would keep it. Your car is so clean it could go for new. Who knows how many of the 13,000 fd's sent here are left, probably half of them have been wrecked and destroyed. Maybe you don't care so much about that stuff though, but that's why I decided to keep the one I just picked up. You have a nice car for sure.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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You're not going to get your money back. And, you're going to have a hard time finding another original CYM R1.

Get some oil cooler ducts and an undertray.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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Man, I would not want to part with that if I were you
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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You made the effort to build it - keep it and enjoy her!
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
Done properly/professionally, modifications add value imo - the stock car is a ticking time bomb with many crap components. I would never buy another stock FD. The stock wheels and brakes are downright worthless, for example, and the stock suspension is not much better - then you add in the IC, turbos, ECU, on and on and on - it all belongs in a junkyard
I have been eyeballing Autotrader/Craigslist/eBay/RX7Club and the like at least weekly for 7+ years and it is clear that the cars that sell the most quickly and at a premium are those with the lowest chassis miles and as close to stock as possible. Despite the impression one might get on a board like this, few people want a modified car. High chassis miles are always a value killer. I see the claim frequently that they don't matter but not a shred of evidence that I have seen backs this up.

There is nothing wrong with most of the components on this car unless it is highly modified. At stock boost levels, the only thing I would replace on this car is the plastic AST and install a downpipe and an FC thermoswitch. The other components are perfectly adequate for 255fwhp and well beyond. Despite $15k of modifications and 300 or so whp, I am still running the stock brakes, turbos, and cooling system. I ran the stock wheels and suspension for years. The stock wheels are strong and light, even by modern standards, and the stock suspension is spectacular for a street car.

Are you confusing the FD with another car?
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
I have been eyeballing Autotrader/Craigslist/eBay/RX7Club and the like at least weekly for 7+ years and it is clear that the cars that sell the most quickly and at a premium are those with the lowest chassis miles and as close to stock as possible. Despite the impression one might get on a board like this, few people want a modified car. High chassis miles are always a value killer. I see the claim frequently that they don't matter but not a shred of evidence that I have seen backs this up.

There is nothing wrong with most of the components on this car unless it is highly modified. At stock boost levels, the only thing I would replace on this car is the plastic AST and install a downpipe and an FC thermoswitch. The other components are perfectly adequate for 255fwhp and well beyond. Despite $15k of modifications and 300 or so whp, I am still running the stock brakes, turbos, and cooling system. I ran the stock wheels and suspension for years. The stock wheels are strong and light, even by modern standards, and the stock suspension is spectacular for a street car.

Are you confusing the FD with another car?
This.

Idk how anyone can think adding mods increase the value of the car.

If you add 10k worth of upgrades to your FD, the 15k value doesnt go to 25. You'll be lucky if you got 20k after all i said and done.

People want STOCK cars, because the general consensus is stock = not abused.

Therefore if the buyer does decide to modify it, he knows he is the first one TO modify it and knows what original part hes replacing etc etc.

Plus, IMHO chassis mileage is a big deal, that determines the amount of stress it has taken throughout the years. That does make a difference to, if you care about that kind of stuff.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
If you add 10k worth of upgrades to your FD, the 15k value doesnt go to 25. You'll be lucky if you got 20k after all i said and done.
Actually, you will be lucky if you can still get $15k IMHO.

A good rule-of-thumb for calculating the effect modifications have on the market value of a car: Take the value of the stock car and for every $1k in modifications subtract $100. I am not sure I am joking.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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some one once told me that...

It's only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.....

We can all sit here and tell you what to sell it for but unless some one is willing to pay you that amount, we are all wrong...

Good luck with your decision...
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by moconnor
I have been eyeballing Autotrader/Craigslist/eBay/RX7Club and the like at least weekly for 7+ years and it is clear that the cars that sell the most quickly and at a premium are those....as close to stock as possible.
Because the average buyer is woefully ignorant about these cars and the many frail parts just waiting to break on the stock car.

I used to buy alot of used MX bikes, too - guess what I found? The professionally modded (and maintained) bikes built by racers had the fewest problems - same goes for used FDs.

The other components are perfectly adequate for 255fwhp and well beyond.
The radiator, IC, ECU, millions of rubber vac lines, failure prone cats, and cheap plastic/rubber piping everywhere are marginal at best for such a hot running car - all of this is well documented. The average noob buyer is clueless, all they know is how many miles it has, but almost all of these cars are over 50k by now, and the ones that sat most of their lives can have just as many problems

The stock wheels are strong and light
The stock wheels aren't really a reliability issue, obviously, they just look gay. A nice set of wheels does wonders for the aesthetics of these cars.

even by modern standards, and the stock suspension is spectacular for a street car.
The stock shocks? They're junk.

Actually, you will be lucky if you can still get $15k IMHO
This car would sell in about 5 minutes for $15k - wanna put some money on it?

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
This.

Idk how anyone can think adding mods increase the value of the car.
Well, ****, I guess Pettit's Banzai is only worth 10k, right?

*shakes head* why do I bother with anything you post
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
Well, ****, I guess Pettit's Banzai is only worth 10k, right?

*shakes head* why do I bother with anything you post
You're an idiot.

Any idiot knows adding mods to a car does not increase its value.

Cars depreciate by default. What kind of logic do you have to make you think adding x amount of dollars worth of mods into a car will increase its value?

Seriously, your posts have no logic and are beyond the level of stupidity.

You get shot down by almost every forum member here, because you post aimlessly, most of them without serious thought.

You would think after all your forum names, you would just leave this forum already. I would have gotten the hint already after my 2nd forum name being banned. But nope you keep on coming, this being your 6th or something. Idk i lost count.

Im gonna start taking bets with other members to see how long it will take before your current forum name gets banned.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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No, you're an idiot. Professionally done mods can add value. You just hang off other members posts with your "this" ****.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yzf-r1
No, you're an idiot. Professionally done mods can add value. You just hang off other members posts with your "this" ****.
Nice immature PM you sent me.

No, "professionally done" mods can NOT add value, without losing money in the process.

I guess if you think adding 50k of mods to a car with a value of 10k, then it selling for 25k adding value, then LOL @ that logic. And i dont know of any idiot that would consider going that route on purpose.

Fact is, you dont add mods with the intention of increasing its value, or getting more for your sale. Because it will never happen.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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You can also sign up with www.Mazda.com for a membership to obtain this info to get details of this FD's authenticity of a CYM. Registration will request the VIN.)
How does one do this? I couldn't find a link on that anywhere? Didn't know mazda maintained an owners registry.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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This is fun.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DeAd-EyE
How does one do this? I couldn't find a link on that anywhere? Didn't know mazda maintained an owners registry.
Hi there. You can go here and sign up: http://www.mymazda.com. Just provide the VIN and the color code, model, etc pops up. I think everyone should sign up just because to get actual factory info about your car and the "original miles" it should be at today (doesn't apply to rebuilt engines. :P ). Of course, unless you personally met and know the "certfied" rotary mechanic at your local Mazda Dealership, don't actually take your car there for service.

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Hi there. You can go here and sign up: http://www.mymazda.com. Just provide the VIN and the color code, model, etc pops up. I think everyone should sign up just because to get actual factory info about your car and the "original miles" it should be at today (doesn't apply to rebuilt engines. :P ). Of course, unless you personally met and know the "certfied" rotary mechanic at your local Mazda Dealership, don't actually take your car there for service.

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Hmm...no option for canadian provinces on that list, and the canadian site doesn't look like it has that feature. Maybe i'll just sign up under a random state. my car is a US import anyhow.

BTW, You're CYM is stunning. I wouldn't sell that for all the vodka in moscow.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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I personally would pay more for an RX7 with reliability mods at this point...reliability mods on an RX7 are priceless and most likely save you the hassle of having someone call you 2 weeks later because their new purchase just blew up.

There's a slew of other things though that I feel are just as important when selling a car.

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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I personally would pay more for an RX7 with reliability mods at this point...reliability mods on an RX7 are priceless and most likely save you the hassle of having someone call you 2 weeks later because their new purchase just blew up.
valid point but since we're on the issue of collectability and percieved value, I would contend that the reason the stock cars are more value (besides the accepted notion that the car hasn't been bastardized), is that a potential buyer who would modify the car would like to make it "his" and start with a proverbial blank canvas.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lwnslw
some one once told me that...

It's only worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.....

We can all sit here and tell you what to sell it for but unless some one is willing to pay you that amount, we are all wrong...

Good luck with your decision...
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......I was offered 35k for my car recently and seriously considered it....but realized quickly that I would HAVE to replace it with another.....and after a quick search, found that it would cost similar money to do it again.....and wouldnt have such a perfect example to start with either...so I declined the offer and drove home happy again!...I LOVE MY RX7!!

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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Wait, your car could not be worth $35k because it's not bone stock and low miles - at least according to the back asswards logic of some

Sharp, clean, professionally modded cars are worth money...period. You don't recoup what you invested, obviously, but they can add value.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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I was going to throw something up about mod increasing/decreasing value but realized the above would take place.

I'd personally rather start with a stock car. At least you know what you're getting for better or worse.
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 12:17 AM
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I agree with yzf-r1. Professional mods do add value obviously. I would pay more money for lets say, gmonsons car, than a stock fd. But yes, putting money into an fd is not an investment. Everyone knows that. Anyways, beautiful fd. I would keep it if i were you.

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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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FDZero- Your car looks extremely clean and it's clear you've spent a lot on getting it to that stage. You can sell it for a less than desireable price or take your chances bringing it here. I live in Manhattan and haven't even driven my car close to the city limits yet because the drivers don't care, potholes and rough roads are everywhere, and parking garages don't keep your car safe. My DD is more banged up from being garaged than when it's left on the street. Unless you pay an exorbitant amount to have a top floor spot in a garage (there are a handful of exotics that do so in my garage) or find an inexpensive and safe garage outside of the city (good luck), I wouldn't bring it here.

If you have a few months to wait for the snow to melt in the NE, I think you could get $18-19k from someone looking for a clean, well built CYM. Are you going to regret selling the car or do you need the money for another project/business venture/to pay off debt? How come you're moving to NYC?
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